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I vilify Creationist for ignoring the consensus, but more importantly, for ignoring the EVIDENCE! The Creationist and the Kyoto nuts are guilty of the same thing....wanting to cherry pick evidence and arrange an arguement based on a PREVIOUSLY HELD TENNENT.

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Just as the Creationist say the Bible is literally accurate, the tree hugging Kyoto zealots are hell bent on proving mankind ( mainly Western, Industrialized mankind ) is responsible for destroying the Earth. So, each starts with a template to hold to, then formulates the evidence which best makes their case, as they see it.

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S'wenyways,

I go with the consensus of scientists. Not like it's a religion or anything but b/c they have the evidence. If they are proven wrong then I'll change my position.

BTW I just wanted to point out there still are scientists trying to disprove relativity and evolution. Just b/c a theory has gotten the consensus of many doesn't mean it's scientifically dead issue.


Is it hot in here, or is it just me ??

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Simply put there is nothing in Space to have a temperature. It's not quite that simple because space does have a temperature, of about 3 kelvin, 3 degrees above absolute zero, the lowest possible temperature because at this point atomic vibration ceases to occur.

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the MGTS thing at the end is my signature smart one
anyway will u answer my question or not??
space is not heating. i cant. this tidbit of yours, crisisall, is just a smokescreen to get us to stop thinking that humans are the problem. for the sake of every who has posted ont this thread plz watch An Incovenant Truth, a documentary but out by Al gore.

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Well DUH ! Of course it was a joke.

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For the right wing ppl here, do u listen to every word Bush says?? u realy think this war is a good idea?? its another vitnam. we arnt acheving anything over there. u realy thing this global warming thing is a complete joke?? wake up. pull yur head out of yur 12 mpg eskapade. the earth cant suport this kind of . ride a bike now and then.
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I'm of the belief that the Repuglicrats are lying to us about the war and the Demoncrats are lying to us about global warming.

If we didn't have catastrophies that we can't do a damn thing about in our lives everyday.... well, then we just may have more time to enjoy what we want to enjoy in life and the sheeple might not be so willing to allow new laws restricting their activities to be constantly placed on them based on fear.

Think about it... Give me one time where we didn't have some catastrophy in the works that was meant to stay deep in the back of our minds. We put it there because all of this crap could really make us crazy if we thought about it 24/7. Maybe we already are all crazy.

My favorite time was between Desert Storm and 9/11. Those were the years I was in highschool and college, so I may have a biased viewpoint, but I can't really think of a impending doom situation then that effected our lives other than the Y2K bug.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't make strides like other countries have towards independance from oil. In fact, if that were to happen, I don't suppose we'd have any fing business in Iraq in the first place, would we?

To somebody like me, you sound just as foolish believing blindly in the all-knowing scientists and their Global Warming crap as the Repuglicrat Zealots do when they're all gung-ho about this BS war.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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I'm of the belief that the Repuglicrats are lying to us about the war and the Demoncrats are lying to us about global warming.

If we didn't have catastrophies that we can't do a damn thing about in our lives everyday.... well, then we just may have more time to enjoy what we want to enjoy in life and the sheeple might not be so willing to allow new laws restricting their activities to be constantly placed on them based on fear.

Think about it... Give me one time where we didn't have some catastrophy in the works that was meant to stay deep in the back of our minds. We put it there because all of this crap could really make us crazy if we thought about it 24/7. Maybe we already are all crazy.

My favorite time was between Desert Storm and 9/11. Those were the years I was in highschool and college, so I may have a biased viewpoint, but I can't really think of a impending doom situation then that effected our lives other than the Y2K bug.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't make strides like other countries have towards independance from oil. In fact, if that were to happen, I don't suppose we'd have any fing business in Iraq in the first place, would we?

To somebody like me, you sound just as foolish believing blindly in the all-knowing scientists and their Global Warming crap as the Repuglicrat Zealots do when they're all gung-ho about this BS war.

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Personal freedoms?!?! Restructuring society?!?! Trillions of dollars for it?!?! Control over our lives?!?! It's nothing like terrorism. How do you even make that connection?

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Middle ground would be "a little from column A, a little from column B" which is actually what I think, if you'd like to start again and actually converse for once, rather than stifle same when it's not what you want to hear, especially dropping the now unwarranted insults I'd be more than happy to go over it with you.

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Are you always this mentally challenged, or is it only when you post here ? I swear, the balance of your replies are, " unt uh.... I know you are, but what am I ? " OR " That's what you said, not me " . I can't debate w/ a 3 yr old!
Sorry, everything you said about me applies to you ONLY, and not me. There, happy?

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I took the middle ground, and you keep ignoring that fact. I granted that a tiny increase in the global temp MAY be occuring, but that it wasn't due to humanity. If I was as 1 sided as you claimed, I'd not even admit there was ANY warming. Man, you really are a dense sod.

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THAT should say something to you i.e. The practically (as in practical not almost) paranoid is finding you paranoid at a scary level. Just think about that.

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BWAHHHH!!! OMG. I've been lurking on this thread, not for the debate (which, as usual for RWED, has gone all bitter and name call-y. Blah!) but because it's so entertaining.

This last comment - "I'm not paranoid but Big Brother HAS YOU!" is really the best.

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Bravo Chrisisall, for starting such a fabulous thread. Except you really should check your facts - the temperature of space is rising because the Flying Spaghetti Monster stroked it with His Noodly Appendage.

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This thread got all manner of wacky...I honestly thought two or three peeps would get a chuckle, then the thread would die. Imagine my shock when more than one took my initial post seriously, and then an actual Global Warming debate sparked!
(btw, my true feeling is yes, there is global warming, and yes, man has affected this natural cycle speeding it up 20% or so meaning that this time next century the snow that reached Texas by the end of our century should be gone.)

Blessed be the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster Chrisisall

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We have too much stuff, too much trash, and too many people. We need to be responsible and clean up our bloody messes, cut back on fossil fuels, alternative heating, recycling etc. It's no difference than cleaning up after yourself and considering future consequences.

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So I'm guessing you're not one of the 'Up with People' folk from back in the 70's, huh?

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

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RealTime X-Ray Photo of Sun
Fahrenheit 3,600,000 Degrees
Nuke Fusion on Sun's Surface
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime-images.html
http://indiana.edu/~animal/fun/conversions/temperature.html
http://thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060120solar1.htm
http://discovery.nasa.gov/genesis.html
http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/

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"The Sun - it's that big firey thing up in the sky. But that's not important right now."

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Global Warming Max in 1934
http://www.texemarrs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code
=catalog&Product_Code=pop_3506_cd&Category_Code=October_2006_Programs

Global Cooling Since 1998
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/09/
do0907.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/09/ixworld.html

GLOBAL WARMING ON SUN
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/18/wsun18
.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/07/18/ixnewstop.html

MARS GLOBAL WARMING
http://www.mos.org/cst-archive/article/80/9.html

JUPITER GLOBAL WARMING
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_jr.html

NEPTUNE GLOBAL WARMING
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980526052143data_trunc_sys.shtml

PLUTO GLOBAL WARMING
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html

SOLAR SYSTEM WARMING
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/161106suvjupiter.htm

COSMIC GLOBAL WARMING
100-Million Degree Milky Way
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050217tempsspace.htm

GLOBAL FREEZING
Cyclical Ice Age by 2012
http://freedomradio.us/news/2006/1_january/10_ice_age.html

SOLAR POLE FLIP
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm

WEATHER MODIFICATION INC
http://weathermod.com

TESLA RADIO WX WARS
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=9470

WEATHERWARS
http://weatherwars.info

OWNING THE WEATHER
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8262483364410309502&q=william+
cooper

CHEMTRAIL CENTRAL
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com

CHEMTRAIL 101
Brainwash in US Skool Books
http://www.willthomas.net/Chemtrails/Articles/Chemtrails_In_US_Schools
.htm

CHEMTRAIL DATA
http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html

WEATHER WAR VS USA
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=PET200
60511&articleId=2423

US Senate Bill 517 and US House Bill 2995 declare war on USA. Trimethyl Aluminum and barium are just two of the toxic chemicals used in recent atmospheric heating and testing programs according to NASA. NASA noted in an October 2005 newsletter that persistent contrails are trapping warmth in the atmosphere and exacerbating global warming - May 11, 2006
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:1:./temp/~c109RGDvXW::
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:1:./temp/~c109rsYOGw::

US Dept of Defense - "Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations.It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important." - Jewish Secretary of Defense William Cohen, Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, April 28, 1997
http://home.att.net/~energy-creations/index.CB.html

HISTORY CHANNEL BONEYARD
CIA Evergreen Aviation 747 tankers at Davis Mothan AFB in Tuscon Arizona used to attack USA with Chemtrails
http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=73830&browseCategory
Id=&location=&parentcatid=&subcatid=

BLOWING SMOKE
A bee smoker is a tool used by beekeepers to blow smoke into a beehive before robbing honey
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-bee-smoker.htm

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"ORNL was prepared. Indeed, a lot of planning was done weeks -- even months -- in advance of Science magazine's publication of research results, and all because of two words: cold fusion. By no means was the ORNL director trashing or diminishing the research conducted by Rusi Taleyarkhan and colleagues at Oak Ridge, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and the Russian Academy of Sciences. There is a lot of important science taking place currently at Oak Ridge -- on CLIMATE CHANGE [HAARP and/or Chemtrails], functional genomics, superconductivity -- but it typically doesn't require his hands-on care or direction, Madia said."
—Frank Munger, editor, Knoxville News-Sentinel, "Bubble hubbub - ORNL was ready when national media burst onto scene", March 11, 2002

"Oak Ridge currently stores more low-level nuclear waste than any other DOE site in the nation. Oak Ridge facilities have more than 47,000 cubic yards of low-level waste in storage - roughly a third of DOE's total inventory nationwide. 26,937 cubic yards at East Tennessee Technology Park (formerly known as the K-25 site). 11,435 cubic yards at Oak Ridge National Laboratory. 8,907 cubic yards at the Y-12 nuclear weapons plant. Many of the containers are stored outdoors, exposed to the elements."
—Frank Munger, editor, Knoxville News-Sentinel, "DOE on mission to cut costs, clean up low-level nuclear waste", March 4, 2002

"The Oak Ridge plant remains an integral cog in the U.S. nuclear defense, producing new parts for existing weapons and recycling old warheads from retired systems. Y-12, of course, is a symbolic location for protests because the plant produced the enriched uranium used in the A-bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan, Aug. 6, 1945. Y-12 also serves as the nation's principal repository for bomb-grade uranium."
—Frank Munger, editor, Knoxville News-Sentinel, "Y-12 a cool place for protesters on a budget ", February 6, 2002


The Toxics Release Inventory (TRI) contains information about more than 650 toxic chemicals that are being used, manufactured, treated, transported, or released into the environment.
http://www.epa.gov/enviro/html/tris/tris_overview.html

LOCKHEED MARTIN ENERGY SYS. U.S. DOE Y-12 PLANT
OAK RIDGE, TN

manufacturer -- release to air (1996)
hydrochloric acid = 138,595 lbs/yr
sulphuric acid = 53,283 lbs/yr
methanol = 30,525 lbs/yr
mercury = 140 lbs/yr
lead = 4,923 lbs/yr


National-Scale Air Toxics Assessment 2001
Results: Map of 1996 Emission Densities
http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/nata/mapemis.html

KNOX COUNTY, TN
Ranking in USA 1996 (latest data available for 2001)


diesel particulate matter 1 2 top 95% (HIGHEST RATING)
acetaldehyde (poisonous byproduct in metabolism of alcohol beverages) top 90%
acrolein top 90%
acrylonitrile top 75%
arsenic compunds top 50%
benzene top 90%
beryllium compounds top 75% (Oak Ridge top 95%)
1,3 butadiene top top 95%
cadmium compounds top 50% (Oak Ridge top 95%)
carbon tetrachloride top 90%
chloroform top 90% (Loudon County top 95%)
chromium compounds top 75% (Oak Ridge top 90%)
coke oven emissions below 25% (all of TN)
1,3 dichloropropene top 90%
ethlylene dibromide top 75% (Loudon County top 90%)
ethylene dichlroride top top 50% (Oak Ridge top 95%)
ethylene oxide top 90%
formaldehyde top 90%
hexachlorobenzene 25% to 50%
hydrazine (rocket fuel) top 75% (Cocke County top 95%)
lead top 50% (Oak Ridge top 90%)
manganese compounds top 75% (Roane County top 90%)
mercury compounds top 75% (Oak Ridge top 95%)
methylene chloride (triggers false positive in BAC DWI testing) top 75% (Roane County top 90%)
nickel compounds top 75% (Oak Ridge top 90%)
perchloroethylene top 90%
polychlorinated biphenyle (PCB) bottom 25% (all TN)
polycylic organic matter (PCM) top 75%
7-PAH top 50%
propilene dichloride top 75% (Loudon County top 95%)
quinolene top 75%
1,1,2,2 tetrachloroethane top 75% (Loudon County top 95%)
tichloroethylene top 90% (Loudon County top 95%)
vinyl chloride top 90% (Loudon County top 95%)


INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF THE EAST TENNESSEE TECHNOLOGY PARK

Office of Environment, Safety and Health, U.S. Department of Energy (2000)

Pollution above toxic levels surrounding Oak Ridge Nuclear Laboratory (ETTP)

HTML Report (200 pages)
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/oversight/reports/gdps/0010ettp/index.html

PDF Report (200 pages)
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/oversight/reports/gdps/0010ettp/0010ettp.html

Verbatum from the declassified portion of the Report:

"Conservative estimates indicated that 35,000 pounds of uranium were released into the air from all sources. 4,300 pounds of uranium a month was unaccounted for or released to the environment. ETTP operates an incinerator which handles radioactive, hazardous and uranium-contaminated PCB wastes. ETTP generated transuranic elements (isotopes with atomic numbers greater than uranium) such as neptunium-237 and plutonium-239; fission products such as techneitum-99; PCBs; toxic metals; and volatile organic compunds such as trichloroethene (TCE) and present risk to the public. Some contaminants migrated outside the Plant boundary. Waste disposal practices included direct discharge of radioactive materials, toxics and caustics to holding ponds and storm drains, and incineration and burial. Reports reflected a number of spills of nitric and hydrochloric acids, in one case 200 gallons. Numerous large fires and explosions were reported. It is impossible to characterize exposure because of inadequate surveys and incomplete records. Records indicate that as contamination levels increased, exposure controls were reduced. Contamination above limits was commonly detected. Operations have released a variety of contaminants into the environment, such as burial of low-level and hazardous waste in landfills and dumping directly into the Clinch River. Large amounts of contaminated equipment and scrap material were sold at public auction. Tens of thousands of pounds of flourine and hydrogen flouride were emitted annually. The investigation team identified over 600 releases of uranium hexaflouride, and a large, visible cloud was released outside a building. Exposure to 'intense clouds' of uranium powder dusts was prevalent and resulted in intense beta radiation fields. Each month dozens or workers were identified as having exposures exceeding plant control guides. Extensive contamination was prevalent. Recordsindicate many air samples in excess of Plant Allowable Limits. Both chemical and radiological materials have routinely been discharged from the Plant, from both sanitary sewage and storm water systems and materials were directly discharged in Mitchell Branch and Poplar Creek. One million pounds of blowdown water was discharged a day. The hexavalent chromium concentration in Poplar Creek is equal to the level regulated by the site's permit. Contents of 500 uranium hexafloride and other gas cylinders were emptied into the unlined holding pond by shooting the cylinders with high-powered rifles, and this pond discharged into Poplar Creek. Records confirm that radiation exceeded drinking water standards. Over 80,000 drums of pond sludge with low concentrations of uranium were generated in 1988. Ventilation was modified to discharge mercury fumes above the roof. Elevated levels of mercury were found in urinalyses. Records refer to the recovery of tons of mercury. Traps would blow out spilling mercury on the floor. Air sampling in the 1990s identified mercury levels several times the Threshold Limit Value. Continual and volumnous process leaks (blowoffs) were vented to the atmosphere. 4,300 pounds of uranium hexaflouride were released per month. Losses were excessive. 10,000 union grievances were filed and management disputed grievances concerning safety in favor of economic considerations. Many storm drains were not moitored before 1992, and routine and accidental wastes have adversely impacted the environment and the aquatic habitat. Weaknesses in the sampling and monitoring of air pollutant emissions raise concerns regarding the accuracy of public dose and exposure calculations. Environmental radiological protection and surveillance are not compliant with DOE Order. Few records reflect involvement by the Atomic Energy Commission in investigations of serious events. Levels of airborne radioactivity were as high as 35,800 dpm/ft3, and far exceeded the PAL of 2 dpm/ft3. [That's radiation levels over 17,000 times the maximum limit.] Airborne radioactivity far in excess of normal background levels was measured off-site as far as five miles away. A number of criticality and sub-criticality accident experiments were performed and posed a severe radiation hazard. Bladder cancer rates were seven times higher than for the general population, and stomach ulcers were 6.5 times greater. Inhalation of airborn radiation can increase the risk of future cancer." [verbatum from the Report]

NOTE: This report only covered the K-25 plant, not the DOE National Nuclear Security Administration's Y-12 nuclear bombs factory, not the thousands of contaminated lab rats from ORNL's Y-12 nuclear bombs factory Mouse House that are incinerated at the University of Tennessee Medical Center in downtown Knoxville, and did not cover Top Secret "criticality" pollution, "referred to as 'special hazards'" (ie, "small" explosions due to accidental nuclear reactions), and "are discussed in a separate classifed document." The GOPS government of Tennessee previously gave ETTP/ORNL a clean bill of health in 1999.


Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments (ACHRE)
http://gwis.circ.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/

ACHRE was created by President Clinton on January 15, 1994 to investigate and report on the use of human beings as subjects of federally funded research using ionizing radiation.

11. Intentional Releases: Lifting the Veil of Secrecy
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/ohre/roadmap/achre/chap11.html


"High-level nuclear waste will be hazardous for more than 200,000 years."
-Ralph Nader



http://www.weatherwars.info

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PirateNews- man, where have you been lately? the global warming issue is always fun, but i needed your cinematics for the 9/11 inside job discussion.. it was brutal

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Questions to ask skeptics, from Mancow to Oxycontin Rush:

1. Are you a govt employee?
2. Have you read Pentagon's Operation Northwoods?
3. How did WTC 7 fall down, when it wasn't hit by a jet?
4. How come the suicide hijackers are still alive, weren't listed on passenger lists, and trained at US military bases?
5. Are you illiterate?
6. Are you brain damaged?
7. Are you diagnosed as insane?
8. What then is your major malfunction?

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Clearly, my use of the lemming analogy was meant to be a commentary of how many folks blindly believe there is a man made Global warming crisis, and not a literal description of how lemmings off themselves by all jumping over a cliff. If I had used the ostrich-sticking-its-head-in-the-sand analogy, my MEANING would be understood, even though everyone knows that an ostrich really doesn't stick its head in the ground when scared. Think of how many ostriches would be feasted on by lions/hyennas, etc if instead of running away, they just stood there, heads stuck in the sand.

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*sigh* Why am I even bothering with this crap.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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PN, Rap,

I hope you realize your posts are clearly beyond reality.
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Out of all your posts you've made two comments directly related to global warmming. Both were opinions. There isn't anything there for me to 'refute'.

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We don't have enough data to know for certain whether climate change is caused primarily by the sun or falls in line w/in the normal heating/cooling this planet experiences over 1000's of yrs.

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Originally posted by citizen:


Guys.

Please don't feed the trolls.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
If there's pizza in it for me, I'll be a troll....

You know nothing...grrrr..you are all straw men...science doesn't matter,,,argggg go ahead with the ad hominems, you asshats...grrrr,...that's what all your kind say....Bush cares for our environment! *spittle shoots from mouth*
where's the corporate love?...go live in China where they really polute....grrrrr
only I know the truth...grrrr


Extra cheese please Chrisisall

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You can have a knuckle sandwich