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Wow Chris, haven't seen you this peeved off in a while.

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Originally posted by Causal:
Wow...but "morons."

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
*shaking off the mad* Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Causal:

There: don't that feel better?

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

We funded those MOTHER***KERS in Nicargua to cut off women's breasts after raping them...real 'freedom fighters'. Oh, I'm sorry, the term isn't torture, it's 'collateral damage' in NeoConScumese.

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Originally posted by Causal:
Wow...but "morons."

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It was AURaptor that set me off in the Reagan Hero thread...see, he's like this likeable, friendly dude, until politics comes up, & he goes @!*#@ crazy waving the flag of the NeoCon agenda!!!! It makes me nuts that good folk can be swallowed up by the big lies!!!!

We should all listen to Mal's words. A sensible Libertarian-like view.

*shaking off the mad* Chrisisall

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Reagan was a hero, by all measure.

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You know not of what you speak.

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If ever I've tossed an ad hominem toward you, it's been a while, and I don't recall what it was.

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I'm wavering as to whether I can survive being branded a 'moron' by you, but if I make it through the night......

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He certainly meant well, I'll give ya that. Like another low IQ Prez that shall remain nameless

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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
The thing about authoritarian followers and cult-of-personality adherents is that they need to believe. ...
Something the authoritarian followers of the right have never understood is that we don't hold our leaders in the position of godhead that they do.

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The report published by the Tower Commission, known as the Tower Commission Report, was delivered to the President on February 26, 1987. It criticized the actions of Oliver North, John Poindexter, Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and others. It did not determine that the President had knowledge of the extent of the program, although it argued that the President ought to have had better control of the National Security Council staff.

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair

The report published by the Tower Commission, known as the Tower Commission Report, was delivered to the President on February 26, 1987. It did not determine that the President had knowledge of the extent of the program, although it argued that the President ought to have had better control of the National Security Council staff.

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It's not nearly as 1 sided as you're lead to believe.

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Something the authoritarian followers of the right have never understood is that we don't hold our leaders in the position of godhead that they do. Make fun of Teddy Kennedy? We shrug. You make fun of Ronald Reagan? They go apoplectic.

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Something the authoritarian followers of the right have never understood is that we don't hold our leaders in the position of godhead that they do. Make fun of Teddy Kennedy? We shrug. You make fun of Ronald Reagan? They go apoplectic.

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That Kennedy is even thought of as a 'leader', and continues to get voted back into office, year after year, is telling in its own right. Reagan never killed his mistress, and that's the start of a long list of differences. Meanwhile, you have icons of the Left who openly state they'd have given Clinton a B.J. for keeping Roe v Wade the law of the land, when he , as President, has very little to do w/ the issue of abortion. There's so much that is base and low that the Left holds up , they don't know true goodness when they see it.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
That Kennedy is even thought of as a 'leader', and continues to get voted back into office, year after year, is telling in its own right.

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There's so much that is base and low that the Left holds up , they don't know true goodness when they see it

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QED

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There's so much that is base and low that the Left holds up

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Big words coming from the side of discrimination and bigotry.

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There's so much that is base and low that the Left holds up

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Like needless invasion, funding murders with D R U G money, phoney 'family values' crap while cutting funding to keep kids alert in school, sex parties in the White House, Skull and Bones shindigs, etc?
There is base and low both sides, I claim neither as my sole voice in this government.

Why do you?

You just pick a base and low side Chrisisall

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Because I'm not very knowledgable about this topic at all at this point, I don't really have an opinion on it.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I say anything, and you have the last word. I noticed that too.

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Something the authoritarian followers of the right have never understood is that we don't hold our leaders in the position of godhead that they do. Make fun of Teddy Kennedy? We shrug. You make fun of Ronald Reagan? They go apoplectic.

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Big words coming from the side of discrimination and bigotry.

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Originally posted by XXXX:
In my opinion [Christians] should be glad to be tolerated as they are, cause I for one, would like to see the evil bastards tied to a stake and screaming while the flames licked ever closer, and fault me for it if you will, I would damned well ENJOY it.

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Originally posted by Reaverman:
People need to see that bickering over whose party is better is a fool's game. Reagan did what he did. Various Democrats have done what they've done. Neither groups are the "Good Guys". Accept that fact so we can move past these idiotic partisan debates and focus on the facts.

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NeoCon apologist morons!

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Originally posted by rue:
Hilary ???!!!

You're joking, right?

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Originally posted by ShinyEd:
Tell ya what....much better to be a neocon apologist moron than a tree-hugging, terrorist-loving, know-nothing internet-educated naive fool retarded liberal....you all sound like you're contestants in Miss America pageant...." And my wish for Earth is world peace."....and I didn't even have to source that at Wikipedia!

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Originally posted by rue:
Great idea. Now if only you can get people to buy into it instead of image and counter image:
McCain - maverick
Kerry - flip-flopper
and so on ....

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Big words coming from the side of discrimination and bigotry.

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There's so much that is base and low that the Left holds up , they don't know true goodness when they see it.

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Originally posted by rue:
BTW so far I like Obama because of what he's said and done. I'd have to look it up but AFAIK he's sponsored literally hundreds of good bills in the Senate.

Hillary Clinton is a very popular Senator. But it isn't translating nationally. I suspect her Iraq war stance which gained her popularity in NYC is going to be a sea-anchor for her now. That I think is a case of short-term political expediency with long-term costs.

Oh, and thanks for the compliments.

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Originally posted by rue:
"Why, oh, why do we have to have a two-party system?" Well, ok. I haven't taken my Ritalin yet, so of course the first thing that popped into my head - and would have been out of my mouth if we were talking - was - " 'cause it's better than one party?" Followed immediately by "you can never have too mnay parties !" Which of course progresses the discussion not at all.

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