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'08 Presidential Candidates: Who served & who didn't
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:01 AM
CREVANREAVER
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:04 PM
YINYANG
You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:08 PM
BIGDAMNNOBODY
Quote:Originally posted by yinyang: Since when is the military the be all, end all? And what do most of the wars we've fought in the last 60 years have to do with our freedoms?
Quote:Originally posted by CrevanReaver: ...something to think about when you're casting your vote (either in the general election or in the primaries) on who should be Commander-in-Chief of the brave men and women who are risking their lives to protect American freedom. Remember most of the candidates weren't willing to take that risk.
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:12 PM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:14 PM
SIGMANUNKI
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:20 PM
ANTIMASON
Quote: posted by yin yeng- Since when is the military the be all, end all? And what do most of the wars we've fought in the last 60 years have to do with our freedoms?
Quote: i hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:25 PM
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:44 PM
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:14 PM
SEVENPERCENT
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: It is prudent to expect the guy fixing your brakes to have automotive experience, your Doctor to have medical experience. It is prudent to expect the head of FEMA to have emergency management experience and the Commander-in-Chief to have military experience.
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:44 PM
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:56 PM
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: Some bosses are experienced and knowledgable in their fields and some are not. The people under them can tell in a hurry. Which boss would you rather work for?
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: By your reasoning, it's required for the guy fixing your brakes to have been a brake. Or for your doctor to have your particular illness ... And that's how your simple-minded concepts fall apart.
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:43 PM
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:47 PM
PIRATENEWS
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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: Quote:Originally posted by rue: By your reasoning, it's required for the guy fixing your brakes to have been a brake. Or for your doctor to have your particular illness ... And that's how your simple-minded concepts fall apart. Huh?
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:33 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:30 AM
EARLY
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Here is your position, reduced to its bare-bones structure military-leader : military :: brake-fixer : ----- What fits there is 'brake'. Or, in English, to know enough about the military to lead it, you have to have been in the military. To know enough about brakes to fix them you have to have been .... And that's how your simple-minded concepts fall apart.
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:36 AM
SIMONWHO
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:45 AM
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:59 AM
HERO
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:14 AM
MALBADINLATIN
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: I don't see where it matters. The CinC sets the POLITICAL objectives of the armed forces, and then hands them to the GENERALS to execute.
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:15 AM
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by MalBadInLatin: A President that has killed a man with his own bare hands has got to be a better leader. (rolling eyes)
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:00 AM
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:08 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:29 AM
KANEMAN
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: Perhaps more restraint would be shown if the President has experience.
Quote: And since when did military experience mean killing.
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:53 AM
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:04 AM
Quote:What is wrong with thinking that the commander in chief should have military EXPERIENCE?
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:14 AM
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:15 AM
CAUSAL
Quote:Originally posted by yinyang: And, back to the original post, it is not cowardly or unpatriotic to say, "I do not want to aid in the military extension of the United States of America by serving in any of the armed forces," which is what I think is being implied by "weren't willing to take that risk."
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Kaneman, the President is more than the Commander in Chief. And post-911 would seem to require more than military experience, since military actions does not seem to be the solution. More along the lines of diplomacy perhaps, or intelligence. (Something Bush is sorely lacking.)
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:56 AM
Quote:Not a huge fan of the military, are we?
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: BDN: Perhaps if the President had been a nuclear engineer or a biologist he could have evaluated the WMD threat better. Or, if he had been an actuary he could have come up with a better plan for Social Security. Maybe if he had been an economist he could have halted the flight of manufacturing to China.
Quote: When experts contradicted his fantasy-scape, they were fired and replaced by political hacks who whispered sweet nothings in his ear. The only people Bush listens to are Cheney and Rove.
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:09 AM
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by MalBadInLatin: Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: Perhaps more restraint would be shown if the President has experience. You mean like if Bush went to Vietnam and got shot at or thrown in a POW camp...he might not have started this catastrof#!k of a war?
Quote:If it doesn't, how is it any better than experience working for an insurance company, or a ditch digger?
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:15 AM
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:44 AM
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: What insurance or ditch digging have to do with being the CiC escapes me.
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MalBadInLatin: Eisenhower was a damn fine President and one valuable thing he learned from his miltary career, that he incorporated into his Presidential career, was the fine art of delegation. He surrounded himself with people smarter than him, and listened to them. Pretty much the opposite of what Bush does.
Quote:Bush surrounds himself with smart people, then has them think and speak only to suit he and Karl Rove's agenda. It's a misguided....and therefore evil agenda methinks!
Quote:Oh! and by the way...Bush dodged service, a real hero Republican man would have volunteered to go to Vietnam
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:01 PM
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: Quote:Originally posted by MalBadInLatin: Eisenhower was a damn fine President and one valuable thing he learned from his miltary career, that he incorporated into his Presidential career, was the fine art of delegation. He surrounded himself with people smarter than him, and listened to them. Pretty much the opposite of what Bush does. So you agree that a military background is helpful to a President, thanks for your support. With the exception of K man it has been lacking for my position in this thread.
Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: So you agree that a military background is helpful to a President, thanks for your support. With the exception of K man it has been lacking for my position in this thread.
Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: Thanks for your input Simon. Do you have an opinion on the thread's topic?
Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SimonWho: Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: Thanks for your input Simon. Do you have an opinion on the thread's topic? I'm sorry, the answer I was looking for was "USA". Never mind, Bush didn't know the answer either.
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