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Originally posted by kaneman:
Watched his 13 part Iowa speech on youtube.com.....This god of a man WILL be killed by the Fed Reserve Bank people.............Well, I think this is true..........I hope this never happens...

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Originally posted by Hero:
He's a Republican Kucinich.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
He'd have to start pulling double digits in the polls. Then they'd crucify him like they did Perot.

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Originally posted by Hero:
Unfortunately crazy don't win elections.



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The same year Perot tried to take control of CIA contractor Collins Radio, he also became involved in activities that led to more direct covert operations {for Nixon and Kissinger}...
Continuing such high-level, secret contacts in the early 1970s, Perot met a young Marine officer ... Oliver North wanted to come to work for EDS, but Perot convinced him to stay in the Marines.... In 1979, two EDS employees were taken hostage by the Iranian government. Perot directed a successful rescue mission composed of EDS employees and led by retired Green Beret Colonel Arthur “Bull” Simons. Perot himself went to Iran and entered the prison where his men were held.... In the early 1980s, Perot became a member of Ronald Reagan's President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB). The PFIAB is a little known, very powerful group of presidential appointees whose approval is required for all U.S. covert operations worldwide.... It was while serving on the spooky PFIAB that Perot again met up with Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, who by this time was on the National Security Council staff. North asked Perot to help finance the rescue of U.S. Brigadier General James Dozier, who had been kidnapped by the Red Brigade in Italy.... Perot continued to established himself as someone who could bankroll Oliver North's off-the-shelf adventures. These involved more rescue attempts, many of which failed... Reportedly, Perot came to loath George Bush beca use he believed Bush did not do enough to search for POWs in Vietnam. ... Misperceived by the public as a refreshing Washington "outsider," Perot was actually a consummate political insider who knew many of the U.S. government's dirtiest secrets.... When he exposed a campaign dirty trick involving a fake nude photo of his daughter, journalists ridiculed him for believing anyone would do such a thing. Oddly, the media knew better than the public that Perot was very experienced in recognizing such covert activities.

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Originally posted by Hero:
Ron Paul lacks Perot's charisma, has no good ideas...but he has all the same crazy.

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Charisma...maybe, but no good ideas? Which ideas in particular are crazy or no good Hero? Ron Paul is actualy anti-gay marriage, and pro life...that's gotta make you a little happy

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Perot is not the nut-case commonly believed. He's worked closely with intelligence agencies

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Originally posted by SignyM:
He'd have to start pulling double digits in the polls. Then they'd crucify him like they did Perot.

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"Whether you're talking about Ruby Ridge, Waco, 9/11 or assassinations, government 'investigations' are essentially coverups."
-Congressman Ron Paul

"Mayor Giuliani — a former federal prosecutor who won notice for 'pursuing' the Mafia — had relatives linked to organized crime, including a mobbed-up cousin who was gunned down by FBI agents in 1977, a new book says. Lewis D'Avanzo, a son of the mayor's uncle and a guest at Giuliani's first wedding in 1968, was a 'ruthless and widely feared mob associate' who headed a massive stolen car ring, according to FBI documents and interviews detailed in Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, by Village Voice senior editor Wayne Barrett. Due in stores next week, the book sketches a largely unflattering portrait of the clan, depicting his father, Harold, as a hothead and the "muscle" behind a brother-in-law's loansharking operation, run out of a Brooklyn bar. Along with cracking heads, it says the mayor's father served time in state prison for a stickup, rarely held an on-the-books job and once was a gunman in a mob shootout in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn. According to the book, Giuliani's cousin Lewis D'Avanzo was known as "Steve the Blond" and listed as armed and dangerous in FBI bulletins. His criminal record included a 10-year federal sentence for the armed hijacking of a truck loaded with $240,000 worth of mercury. The book alleges that he was suspected of taking part in several murders. D'Avanzo was gunned down by the FBI in October 1977, when he tried to run down an agent after being stopped on a warrant that accused him and two associates of transporting 100 stolen luxury cars. Quoting an unnamed friend of D'Avanzo, the book describes a 1962 shootout pitting a local mobster against the mayor's father and Leo D'Avanzo, Lewis D'Avanzo's father. The book says Leo was later sanctioned by mob bosses for shooting at a Mafia member. Leo D'Avanzo, who was known in family circles as a black sheep, ran loansharking and gambling operations out of a Brooklyn bar where Giuliani's father worked as a bartender. In his role as debt collector, his father 'broke legs, smashed kneecaps, crunched noses.' Joan Ellen D'Avanzo, a cousin who at one time lived with Giuliani when he was a youngster, became a drug addict who was beaten to death in 1973 at age 34. Her cause of death was listed as undetermined, but several family members said she was murdered."
—Michael R. Blood, New York Daily News, "Rudy's Kin Tied to Mob", July 06, 2000

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