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The Government Is trying To Kill us

POSTED BY: HOSTILE17NOW
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Friday, October 5, 2007 1:06 PM

HOSTILE17NOW


The Government aka. the man, Is trying To Kill us "READ WHAT YOU EAT" people.

HYDROGENATED, Fear it and fear it well

HYDROGENATED Food takes at least 50 Days to digest aka nondigestable, It will kill you

It can cause all kinds of bad health

and making US. people well..FAT!

and other nasty $h!t!

If you can't digest it where do you think it's going to go.

The UK.Oreo takes 8 hours to digest while
the USA. Oreo takes 50 Days Hows that for
Bull$h!t..

It Is time for People to revolt

Revolt here,
tell your friends
tell everybody you know

Because if people don't talk

It will never change

And dammit If anyone can start Spreading the Word
You Know It's the "BROWNCOAT"S"

And let's not forget Silcin,aka plastic/rubber.

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Friday, October 5, 2007 1:42 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Smart eating had never been tested quite so literally. At the Society for neuroscience's conference in San Diego last October, researchers presented several studies neatly demonstrating that a particular type of fat attacked brain tissue, muddying thought and destroying memory.

The audience was stunned. Most already knew that this particular fat gummed up arteries with a vengeance. But altering the brain? "After I did this study, my husband and I went through our fridge and threw out most of the stuff with trans fats in it," says neuroscientist Lotta Granholm, PhD, director of the Center on Aging at the Medical University of South Carolina.

Granholm studied rats, but most experts are grimly confident that the findings apply to humans. For 6 weeks, the rodents ate a diet mimicking the typical American's, except that one group's meals featured vegetable oil while the second group's contained trans fatty acids. This man-made fat is beloved by manufacturers for its solidity at room temperature (vegetable oil liquidizes) and its long, stable shelf life (saturated fat degrades). To test the rats, Granholm and colleagues set up a series of progressively more difficult mazes. Rats eating trans fats made many more errors than the vegetable oil group; the more complex the challenge, the worse the trans fat eaters fared. And unlike the vegetable oil group, they didn't seem to learn from previous trips through a maze. Granholm suspects that the trans fats were choking off a key neurological protein, possibly by inflaming the brain's tissues.

The "Perfect" Fat
Trans fats turn up naturally in milk and meat--in tiny amounts. But it's the man-made version that's causing all the trouble. When vegetable oil and hydrogen are put together under tremendous pressure, the resulting fat provides a taste and consistency that drives consumers wild. Manufacturers now use it in nearly everything, from margarine and shortening to cookies, granola bars, bean dip, and frozen french fries. Chain restaurants love the oil because it keeps their partially fried foods from spoiling while they're being shipped all over the country.

"When the hydrogenation process was discovered decades ago, it was considered safe," says Walter Willett, MD, a professor of nutrition and epidemiology at the Harvard School of Public Health. "Now we know that partially hydrogenated oil is a major cause of heart disease, and it should be phased out of the food supply as rapidly as possible." Research shows the fat can drive "bad" LDL cholesterol levels up and heart-protective HDL cholesterol levels down. For women, a diet rife with trans fats doubles the risk of heart disease. Part of the danger stems from the fat's structure, which is quite stiff. This characteristic makes trans fats tough for the body to break down and clear from the blood--giving them time to lodge in artery walls.

The heart evidence is so dramatic that the Institute of Medicine (IOM), a group of scientists that advises the nation on health issues, recommended in 2002 that we keep our intake of trans fats as low as possible. "The bottom line is, it's not an essential nutrient, so there's no reason for anyone to consume added trans fat," says Alice Lichtenstein, a professor of nutrition at the Friedman School of Nutrition at Tufts University and an IOM committee member who worked on the trans fat recommendations. "These fats are just not necessary."

Tracking Trans Fat
The truth is that it hides out in all kinds of products. Trans fats are in obvious places like doughnuts and cookies, but also in not-so-obvious foods such as bean dips and bread. The Food and Drug Administration has asked all food manufacturers to disclose the trans fat content of their foods on the Nutrition Facts label by 2006--by which time most will have taken steps to minimize or take these fats out of their products. For now, you'll have to do a little detective work of your own to find them. Look for the words hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oil--code for trans fats--on labels. If partially hydrogenated oil is among the top three or four ingredients listed, you'll want to choose something else (the higher up an ingredient is, the more the product contains). But beware of a common trick: If a food, such as pie, has two or more components, the maker may list the low-fat or fat-free one first (e.g., the filling) followed by the fat-dense component (the crust).

Read carefully.
Even after the new labels come out, some trans fats could sneak under your radar. The FDA allows any food with less than half a gram per serving to be called "trans-fat free." Half a gram might seem like nothing, but if it's a product you use a lot of--say, margarine--those half grams can add up quickly.





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Friday, October 5, 2007 1:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I don't eat oreos, twinkies or like food.

Dr Kenneth Cooper, the father of aerobic training , says one needs only to burn more calories than one takes in. The more calories one burns, regardlss of where the calories come, the healthier one will be.

Eat less. Work out more. Live longer.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, October 5, 2007 3:26 PM

LEADB


The -Government- is trying to kill us because capitalist pig dogs sell us poison? The Government might have blissfully had it's head in the sand, but I'm not sure how I'd blame the Government for this one.

Yes, Trans-fat is a poison. Been looking for it, won't eat it. I am doing much more of my fast food eating at Wendy's, they have eliminated trans-fat.
Edit: Wendy's has taken considerable measures to reduce the trans fat in french fries; I was mistaken to indicate they have elminated it. (But their fries are indicated to have 1/6th the trans fat of, say, Mc-D's.)


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Friday, October 5, 2007 3:54 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by leadb:
The -Government- is trying to kill us because capitalist pig dogs sell us poison? The Government might have blissfully had it's head in the sand, but I'm not sure how I'd blame the Government for this one.

I can’t see how the government’s to blame either, but blaming the government seems to have become a common excuse for bad behavior.

Also is there really a difference between a US oreo and a UK oreo? Seems unlikely. They are both manufactured by Nabisco, and from what I saw, oreoes are no longer made with trans-fats.

Maybe there is some oreo-like cookie made by Nestle?

Incidentally, I saw the Nestle headquarters from a train. It was a complete surprise. I don’t eat a lot of sweets so it never really occurs to me to know anything about where these companies are located. On an overnight train from Paris to Milano, I was watching out the window at the beautiful Swiss scenery, when a big NESTLÉ sign slid by. It really makes you appreciate how small the world is when something like that creeps up on you in the middle of the Swiss Alps.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Friday, October 5, 2007 4:48 PM

HOSTILE17NOW


No the man is the one at falt

you see rupert murdoc/dick chainey/ etc.
all own these companys

It's all about shelf life,
and HYDROGENATED food gives food a longer shelf life.
damm if we die"

is the way thay think and thay have been for years. But in the UK. thay revolted the man and it is now banned form the UK.

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Friday, October 5, 2007 5:32 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


I just thought I'd blather a little bit about trans-fats. They have an un-natural configuration \=\ across the double bond rather than \=/. Your body's enzymes just aren't geared to deal with them. Fats make up cell membranes which are composed of two layers of fat with protein pores attached to span the inside to outside path. The pores let through ions. If the lipid layer isn't properly structured, the pores are stuck either open or closed and the cells - including your brain cells - don't work well. Trans-fats don't let the cell membranes work properly. And on top of that, your body has a hard time breaking them down, so they stick around. (Otherwise your body would metabolize them and turn them into normal fats.)

Well, anyway, I need to get going.

So, signing off ...

good night

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Friday, October 5, 2007 5:37 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by hostile17Now:
is the way thay think and thay have been for years. But in the UK. thay revolted the man and it is now banned form the UK.

Sounds to me like what you’re saying is that in the UK, the Man now makes the decision for you about what you can and can’t eat. I’ve been living in the US all my life, as far as I know, and I don’t eat hydrogenated foods. So “rupert mudoc(sic)” and “dick chainny(sic)” don’t make that decision for me. But evidently, according to you anyway, someone is making that decision for you.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Friday, October 5, 2007 7:54 PM

FLETCH2


Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Quote:

Originally posted by hostile17Now:
is the way thay think and thay have been for years. But in the UK. thay revolted the man and it is now banned form the UK.

Sounds to me like what you’re saying is that in the UK, the Man now makes the decision for you about what you can and can’t eat. I’ve been living in the US all my life, as far as I know, and I don’t eat hydrogenated foods. So “rupert mudoc(sic)” and “dick chainny(sic)” don’t make that decision for me. But evidently, according to you anyway, someone is making that decision for you.




It's the war. In WW2 everyone was on rations because the country could only grow so much and everything else had to come in by ship which was costly in lives. So HMG got the best nutritionists they could find to work out the exact ballanced ration for a specific age. It worked so well that those born and raised during the war are taller than people born in the previous generation (unlike the rest of europe where the reverse is true.)

So, once you have the infrastructure set up to test food you tend to keep it. Also EU directives mean that you have to list every additive in the food on the lable (E numbers.) Very handy that because my sister is allergic to the yellow pigment they add to tinned corn and peas.

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Friday, October 5, 2007 9:33 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Quote:

Originally posted by hostile17Now:
[B But in the UK. thay revolted the man and it is now banned form the UK.






Yes, our peasants are indeed revolting.

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 1:50 AM

LEADB


Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
... I’ve been living in the US all my life, as far as I know, and I don’t eat hydrogenated foods. So “rupert mudoc(sic)” and “dick chainny(sic)” don’t make that decision for me. But evidently, according to you anyway, someone is making that decision for you.

Until recently, it was pretty much impossible to eat fast food and avoid trans-fat. Still need to be careful chain by chain. Likewise, margarine formulations used to be heavy in trans-fat; most have reformulated in the past few years.

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 3:02 AM

LEADB


Everything you wanted to know about trans-fat (and then several hundred additional pages ;-) )
http://www.bantransfats.com/index.html

About our poor, maligned USA Oreos:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oreo
"As of January 2006, classic Oreo cookies are no longer manufactured with hydrogenated oils. [9] Other varieties may not have eliminated hydrogenated oils completely."

Brought to you courtesy of the law suit initiated by the folks running the former website.

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 3:22 AM

ZZETTA13


“Earth was no longer able to sustain our numbers we were so many. We found a new solar system with dozens of planets and hundreds of moons. Each Terraformed….wait than aint gonna work. Lets start over. Earth was no longer able to sustain our numbers we were so many…so it was decided to knock off a few mil by feeding them crap, telling them it was good for them and that everything was A-Ok. Yep that’ll work.” Taken from the Blue Sun Chronicles, October-2007, Volume16.

Z
I’m only joking of course

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 5:23 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by leadb:
The -Government- is trying to kill us because capitalist pig dogs sell us poison? The Government might have blissfully had it's head in the sand, but I'm not sure how I'd blame the Government for this one.

Yes, Trans-fat is a poison. Been looking for it, won't eat it. I am doing much more of my fast food eating at Wendy's, they have eliminated trans-fat.
Edit: Wendy's has taken considerable measures to reduce the trans fat in french fries; I was mistaken to indicate they have elminated it. (But their fries are indicated to have 1/6th the trans fat of, say, Mc-D's.)




Agreed. If the government was at fault and was trying to "kill" its citizens, wouldn't they give the deadly Oreo out as part of W.I.C instead of cheese and milk(I guess one could argue that the government's welfare cheese is a nutritional weapon...thus,give validity to this idiot's post)? Last I checked this was not the case.

The government may collect taxes via the barrel of a gun, but I don't think they force us to eat shit.

The government may have rigged our political system so our presidential choice comes down to a giant douche-bag or a terd sandwich, but still they don't make us eat shit...one can always opt for the spinach(Don't bring up e-coli. Wild pigs are at fault).

The government may have suspended Habeas Corpus, but they haven't yet removed nutritional labels from our SpagettiOs(Sure, one can point out that the reason they haven't is they love us labeled and fractured....Fags, Bitches, Black folks etc...


So, I will have to agree with you on this Leadb...Leadb?..Wait a second! Haven't you been banned by the government? At least in paint, right? See they are not all bad.

I think I will go get one of those $.99 bacon lettuce cheese burgers at Wendy's.......Well, it's true..........


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Saturday, October 6, 2007 5:41 AM

FREMDFIRMA


I find myself rather amused in a black humor kind of way regarding this topic, after going rounds in another thread over the functions of agencies like the FDA, which are soooo neeeeded *snark snark* to make our food (transfats, MSG, aspartame, godknowswhat) and drugs (gardasil, thaliomide, vioxx, ritalin) "safe" - but always seem to have almost the exact opposite effect while soaking up both tons of taxpayer money and corporate lobbyist largess in the process.

Hmm, perhaps this is indeed one of those issues where Constitutional Compliance is most needed - dismantle the FDA and put this kind of thing under state control, would be my reccommendation.

Even so, you cannot depend on big daddy government to protect you, especially in this day and age when they're buried halfway up the corporations ass and digging in deeper looking for a goldmine, or at least a comfy retirement and cushy job with the company they sold our ass down the river to when they're finally run out of office.

In the end, it comes down to you, as a consumer, to find out WTF is in the product you are buying, not the bullshit on the label, what's actually IN it (cause the two do NOT always match, no matter what the law says, it's not like they enforce it, anyway) and then decide accordingly whether or not you wanna buy it and eat it.

And if you don't have a label, or the company will not tell you - that oughta twig your suspicions right there, and in the end, if you do not have the data you must then decide whether or not you actually trust the company in question.

But depend on the Gov to protect you from corporations ?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaa... if you think that's a viable option, you need a refresher course in american history - regardless of how it's supposed to work, 99.99% of the time they are on the side of the corporations because they control voting blocs, vast resources, and have more money than you do.

Conversely, if someone *wants* to put that crap in their system, the FedGov has no moral or legal right to stop them, and certainly does not have the authority to determine what a company does and does not put in it's products - your state might be able to, but the FedGov cannot.

It's your decision, and it wasn't the FedGov that brought about many of these changes, it was customer demand - YOU are the customer, YOU make the demand... you don't want trans-fat crap, don't buy any, and then bitch to the company for not providing an alternative, enough folks do that, the company responds to the demand in hopes of netting that profit.

In the end, it's your dollar, and YOU decide what company to give it to - and the Gov can damned well stay out of it.

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 5:47 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Meh, Government cheese actually becomes unstable at certain temperature and pressure and can cause a low order explosion - that happened in Indiana once, if one cares to dig up the newsclips relative, they'd be in local Wakarusa/Napanee papers, likely.

As for deliberate ? I doubt it, it's just too efficient for the usual Governmental halfassery.
A good short story on that topic I highly reccommend is Isaac Asimov's "The Winnowing".

-F

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 5:58 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Last I heard it was corproations that came out with transfats, frankenfoods, vioxx, dangerous flame retardants (PBDs) and "farmed" salmon. So it ain't the government that's trying to kill us. At least, not that way.

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Always look upstream.

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 6:17 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by leadb:
Until recently, it was pretty much impossible to eat fast food and avoid trans-fat. Still need to be careful chain by chain. Likewise, margarine formulations used to be heavy in trans-fat; most have reformulated in the past few years.

It’s also a common ingredient in manufactured sweets. There’s a reason why la cucina casalinga is better, and it’s not just that mama made it with lots of love. It’s often what mama didn’t put in it.

The Romans had access to only two types of sweetening agents. One was honey, which was highly prized and extremely expensive. The other was a noxious concoction made from soured wine or grape juice boiled down in lead pots. It was sweet because it contained lead acetate.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 9:54 AM

HOSTILE17NOW


I don't eat HYDROGENATED or trans fat foods haven't for about a year now!

The Government
has these copannys, make their food without it in it! rupert murdoc/dick chainey/gorge bush, etc.

If the US. government and the UK.people won't eat it, why the hell should I.... Or you for that matter...



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Saturday, October 6, 2007 10:20 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Poison is ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction, thanks to its plausible deniability, and has been used by gangster govts for 1,000s of years.

Food and water are the ulitmate weapons delivery systems. I worked on nuke bombs and Gatling guns, which are impotent compared to poison by sabotage.

Most people totally lack the self discipline to completely chage their diet and eat only fresh local foods, prepared by themselves from raw ingredients (like our grandparents did). Most food in USA now comes from the other side of the planet, which is easier to poison with Melamine, or cut off entirely (by bombing the levees in the port of New Orleans).

There are 1,000s of deadly poisons in the food and water supply, APPROVED by Uncle Scam. This is all the proof required to arrest and convict for homicide and genocide.

MSG has been given 100s of names by Uncle Scam, to keep it covert. It's not just in Chinese (Japanese) foods anymore. "US Restaurant Disease" also applies to "US Supermarket Disease", with hidden MSG in 1,000s of foods. MSG causes obeistiy by increasing appetite and preventing fluids from escaping from cells. MSG Rats are "Fat Rats" used in lab experiments on obeisity.

MSG and Corn Syrup -related diseases kill over 500,000 people per year in USA, with diabetes and heart disease. "No Trans Fat" fake foods, like Smart Balance "margerine", have other deadly toxins guaranteed to KILL you.
www.thenhf.com/overview_Insulin_Our_Silent_Killer.html

This is why US citizens are the fattest in the world, because other govts ban these poisons.

This is no accident, when combined with all the other ways Uncle Scam is overthrowing USA, fron 40-million illegal aliens (500-million ASAP), private Federal Reserve Bankster Scam, voluntary income tax paid entirely to foreign banksters, perpetual world wars to shut off cheap oil and destroy the military (funded by loans from Communist China), selling US ports and Panama Canal to Commie China, giving most Alaskan oil to British Petroleum for export to Japan Mexico and Commie China, 9/11 Inside Job, assassinations of JFKs, votefraud run by foreign military contractors, giving US highways to foreign tollroad corporations owned by Europena royalty, etc.

And don't forget Searl Pharmaceuticals' Aspartame Nutrisweet poison, that's in billions of products sold daily, thanks to Sir Donald Rumsfeld Knight of the British Empire.
www.dorway.com

The name of the game is population control, via murder by poison, with full cooperation from the medical mafia and gangsta govt, as taught in all university. This reduces the number of old unproductive people, and keeps the slaves preoccupied with expensive diseases and brain damage, to prevent revolt. The medical mafia mops up all the way to the bank, with $1.5-million aborticides per year (cannibalized for body parts and vaccine/cosmetic ingredients), plus 1-million medical malpractice murders per year in USA. Over 50-million US citizens have been murdered by abortion, since US Supreme court legalized genocide with Roe v Wade in 1973. That's murder by Gangsta Govt - the same govt refusing to deport 40-million illegal aliens and trying its best to invite half-a-Billion more.

THIS IS WAR.



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Fed woman: It's the Pax. The G-Paxilon Hydroclorate that we added to the air processors. It was supposed to calm the population, weed out aggression. Well, it works. The people here stopped fighting. And then they stopped everything else. They stopped going to work... they stopped breeding, talking, eating. There's 30-million people here, and they all just let themselves die.
(smashing down door)
(whine, wimper)
I have to be quick. About a tenth of a percent of... the population had the opposite reaction to the Pax. Their aggressor response increased beyond madness. They have become...
(smashing down door)
Well, they've killed most of us. And not just killed... they've done things.
Wash: Reavers. They made them.
Fed woman: I won't live to report this, but people have to know. We meant it for the best... to make people safer.
(Reavers growling)
God!
(Fed woman screaming)
(Reaver munching)
Reaver 1: Bill, does this taste like chicken to you?
Reaver 2: Ted, I think it takes like sheeple.
Reaver 3: Does this scalp make my butt look fat?




FOX, MYSPACE & FIREFLY OWNED BY COMMUNIST CHINA!
www.piratenews.org/pntv-schedule.html


http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/340
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Does that seem right to you?
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Saturday, October 6, 2007 1:34 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Yo, PN - you forgot Flouride, Chlorine and dangerous levels of Arsenic in the drinking water.

Don't be such a slacker, now.

-Frem
"I am the Whistler, and I know many things, for I walk by night. I know many strange tales, many secrets hidden in the hearts of men and women who have stepped into the shadows. Yes, I know the nameless terrors of which they dare not speak."

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 2:40 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Yo, PN - you forgot Flouride, Chlorine and dangerous levels of Arsenic in the drinking water.

Don't be such a slacker, now.

-Frem



I finally figured out how to protect my precious bodily fluids, thanks to a distiller from Sears ($99 loss leader). It's scary how much calcium phosphate it pulls out of one gallon of well water, even when I prefilter it. No way a filter can remove that much calcium phosphate, or I'd have to buy a new filter every day. I have to use a wire brush and ice pick to clean it every day.
www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_03234480000P?pid=03234480000

Calcification of muscles, organs, joints and blood vessels is a common symptom of cardiovascular and rheumatoid diseases. The phosphates come from laundry detergent, fertilizer, livestock urine and is commonly added to city water supplies "to clean the pipes". Calcium phosphate is added to soda, beer, wine, "mineral water", milk, foods, vitamins and drugs, using "burned bone ash", which causes kidney stones and kidney failure, especially in pets (which at least can get special foods with less "burned bone ash" aka "ash"). This kind of calcium actually removes calcium from bones, due to the phosphate.
www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=7783
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_ash

And MSG is a "calcium channel opener". Calcium channel blockers are a profitable type of medication for never curing heart disease.

Then of course there's the govt bioweapons labs in every city, with 100s of "accidental" leaks, routinely causing fatal epidemics of humans and livestock.

Plus the govt bans on vitamins and natural foods, to reduce immunity...
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Pharmacist Fined One Million by Tennessee Medical Board for Advising Juices and Natural Supplements

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/pharmacistfinedonemillion14jun07.shtml



Check out Endgame, for an update on the official eugenics policies of Gangsta Govts:

www.endgamethemovie.com/highofficial.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3488134279546734397

The final version will ready for Halloween.

Midlevel and bottomfeeder slaves go along with the corruption due to greed, illiteracy and gullibility. But the deciders at the top of the food chain know exactly what the end result will be.

Quote:

"A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal. The United States has got some of the dumbest people in the world. I want you to know that."
-Ted Turner, owner of CNN News, who officially gave $1-Billion to United Nations Corporation for "population reduction"

"Even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care, and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that now is unthinkable may at least become thinkable."
-Sir Julian Huxley Knight of the British Empire, first Director General of United Nations corporation UNESCO, 1946-1948, brother of Aldous Huxley author of Brave New World

"Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated. We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
-Margaret Sanger, founder of the first birth control clinic in the United States, founder of Planned Parenthood
www.blackgenocide.org/planned.html
www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/margaret-sanger-planned-
parenthood-founder.htm




Thanks to sabotaged bioweaponized "vaccines", over 600,000 US Gulf War troops are now disabled, with 100,000 dead, so far, not counting Social Security Disability, not counting family members. Billary Clinton-Blythe (Rockefeller) wants socialized "healthcare" nightmare for all Americans, just like the military already has, with mandatory vaccinations of deadly poisons and fetal human body parts.

Quote:


Plague of bioweapons accidents afflicts the US

05 July 2007
NewScientist.com

Deadly germs may be more likely to be spread due to a biodefence lab accident than a biological attack by terrorists.

Plague, anthrax, Rocky Mountain spotted fever - these are among the bioweapons some experts fear could be used in a germ warfare attack against the US. But the public has had near-misses with those diseases and others over the past five years, ironically because of accidents in labs that were working to defend against bioterrorists. Even worse, they may be only the tip of an iceberg.

There are now 20,000 people at 400 sites around the US working with putative bioweapons germs, says Hammond, 10 times more than before the terrorist attacks of 9/11.

The fears have been borne out by publicised infections of lab workers with tularemia, brucellosis and Q fever.

www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn12197



U.S. labs mishandling deadly germs

Associated Press
Oct 2, 2007

American laboratories handling the world's deadliest germs and toxins have experienced more than 100 accidents and missing shipments since 2003, and the number is increasing as more labs do the work.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071002/ap_on_go_co/mishandling_germs


Quote:

"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation. I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus. I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the 'cull' to the size of the surplus population."
-Prince Phillip King of England and the British Empire, from his autobiography, 1984, 1988, 1990




Prince Philip 'told MI6 to murder Diana and lover'

Yorkshire Post
October 3, 2007

SENSATIONAL claims that Princess Diana was murdered on the instructions of the Duke of Edinburgh after she expressed fears of an attempt on her life dominated the opening of the inquest into her death yesterday.

The jury heard allegations that Prince Philip was at the heart of a conspiracy to murder Diana and her lover, Dodi Fayed, after ordering MI6 to prepare a report on them for the Royal Family. The car crash that killed them both in Paris on August 31, 1997 was then engineered, the jury heard.

The claim of murder by Dodi's father, Harrods owner Mohamed al-Fayed, was at the heart of coroner Lord Justice Scott Baker's opening statement to the jury at the inquest at the High Court in London yesterday.

And the jury was told how Diana had expressed fears that she would be the victim of an arranged accident if, as she believed, the Queen abdicated and Prince Charles succeeded to the throne, saying that would create a need to "get rid of her, via some accident in her car such as prepared brake failure".

The judge told the jury of six women and five men that many had come to believe something "sinister" may lie behind the crash in the Pont de l'Alma tunnel in which Diana, 36, and 42-year-old Dodi were killed with their driver, Henri Paul.

He added that Mr al-Fayed also believes MI6 had been commissioned to write a special report on his family to be presented to the Royal Family.

The judge said: "It is his belief that a decision was taken at that time to kill Diana and Dodi. He places Prince Philip at the heart of the conspiracy, you will have to listen carefully to the witnesses you hear to see whether there is any evidence to support this assertion."

The inquest is set to continue for up to six months.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/Prince-Philip-39told-MI6-to.3252274.jp

www.geocities.com/princess_diana_not_dwi/



If we don't arrest these elite psychopaths now, WE ARE DOOMED.

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 3:32 PM

HOSTILE17NOW


Okay Why I posted/aka. started this thread

Is to say: Go bitch to everyone you know and

everybody you meet. thats why I did this......



Just try and help as manny people as you can

It's not fair that thay don't know!
and you know It's not right

Hostile 17.... Helping folk since who cares!....

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Sunday, October 7, 2007 2:40 AM

LEADB


Quote:

Originally posted by PN
Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Yo, PN - you forgot Flouride, Chlorine and dangerous levels of Arsenic in the drinking water.

Don't be such a slacker, now.
-Frem


I finally figured out how to protect my precious bodily fluids, thanks to a distiller from Sears ($99 loss leader). It's scary how much calcium phosphate it pulls out of one gallon of well water, even when I prefilter it. No way a filter can remove that much calcium phosphate, or I'd have to buy a new filter every day. I have to use a wire brush and ice pick to clean it every day.
www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_03234480000P?pid=03234480000

Be careful drinking pure (distilled) H20. Water is actually considered a solvent. If you drink too much pure water, it will actually strip vital minerals from your body. I do appreciate PN's concern regarding what's in the water we drink; it is important that what is in the water be non-problematic. Just don't trade one health problem for another.

Edit: This seems to have a reasonable presentation on what is bad to have in the water Vs the problems of distilled water:
http://www.cyber-nook.com/water/contam.html

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Sunday, October 7, 2007 3:28 AM

LEADB


Quote:

Out of context by Sanger
"We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population."

The only thing I know to do to put quotes in context is to provide the context... from:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/margaret-sanger-p
lanned-parenthood-founder.htm

Quote:


Sanger was aware of African-American concerns, passionately argued by Marcus Garvey in the 1920s, that birth control was a threat to the survival of the black race. This statement, which acknowledges those fears, is taken from a letter to Clarence J. Gamble, M.D., a champion of the birth control movement. In that letter, Sanger describes her strategy to allay such apprehensions. A larger portion of the letter makes Sanger's meaning clear:
Quote:

It seems to me from my experience . . . in North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas, that while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table. . . . They do not do this with the white people, and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and with knowledge, which, I believe, will have far-reaching results. . . . His work, in my opinion, should be entirely with the Negro profession and the nurses, hospital, social workers, as well as the County's white doctors. His success will depend upon his personality and his training by us.
The minister's work is also important, and also he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation, as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs (Sanger, 1939, December).



I believe a 'fair reading' in context is that the -intent- of the program is not extermination; but instead to empower African Americans to make reproductive choices.

Actually, PN presents as a single quote, three quotes run together; some of which is mis-attributed; and the balance taken out of context.


http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger
Mis-attributed:
"Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." Unknown source,
If someone can find the source of this quote (besides LEARN's undocumented attribution), you can help WIKI be more accurate.

Edit: For the record, I tend to be against abortion, but not in favor of illegalising it. I'd rather folks have the tools at hand to avoid unwanted pregnancy, which if were 'maximized' would simply make abortion unnecessary.

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Sunday, October 7, 2007 3:00 PM

ALLIETHORN7


Ah, yes... Hydrogenateed food is killing us slowly. And I suppose that "The Man" also introduced Rap music, in order to create a new generation of stupider and more aggresive youth (Also known as, the perfect Cannon Fodder.
W00t, and suchlike bullshit.

-Danny

We move for all mankind,
A million miles from everything we've ever know...
We're on their hearts and minds,
A million heads are bowed to bring us safely home...
Hemmed in by emptiness,
A million ways that everything could be undone...

THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
My Master went to the Moon in a Rocket of Flamin' Cheese!
I LIKE CHEESE!!!
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Monday, October 8, 2007 4:25 AM

HERO


The real crime is the Nutter Butter...you can't eat just one (package).

H

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Monday, October 8, 2007 5:18 AM

ALLIETHORN7


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
The real crime is the Nutter Butter...you can't eat just one (package).

H


Ah, yes. The quintesential evil plot ALWAYS needs the Nutter Butter, or else it all falls apart BEFORE Austin Powers shows up and pwns them.

-Danny

We move for all mankind,
A million miles from everything we've ever know...
We're on their hearts and minds,
A million heads are bowed to bring us safely home...
Hemmed in by emptiness,
A million ways that everything could be undone...

THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
My Master went to the Moon in a Rocket of Flamin' Cheese!
I LIKE CHEESE!!!
http://www.myspace.com/otherrandomdude

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Monday, October 8, 2007 12:40 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"Yo, PN - you forgot Flouride, Chlorine and dangerous levels of Arsenic in the drinking water."

And don't forget perchlorate which the US government has been ignoring for years.

***************************************************************
"You're working hard to put food on your family."

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Monday, October 8, 2007 3:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Heh... nice title.

I smoke, but at least I know that it's killing me. When I die of lung cancer, most other folk my age are going to be dying of cancers that even minds like Joss hasn't come up with then. They'll probably just blame them on second hand smoke then too.

Hope you enjoy that stink-star cancer you get at 60 years old because of that Prepairation H you used 30 years earlier...

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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