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Fantastic Ron Paul Interviews

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:12 AM

SERGEANTX


These videos popped up last night on YouTube and I have to say it's one of the most remarkable political interviews I've seen. I'm not usually drawn to 'human interest' style interviews, but this one is very revealing.

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Part 5



SergeantX

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:49 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
but this one is very revealing.


Yeah, a candidate stripping on camera is always shocking...but seeing him dance to MC Hammer music was too much.

I didn't think he'd go all the way though...but I guess he's in it "all the way".

H

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:30 AM

MALBADINLATIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
but this one is very revealing.


Yeah, a candidate stripping on camera is always shocking...but seeing him dance to MC Hammer music was too much.

I didn't think he'd go all the way though...but I guess he's in it "all the way".

H

All joking aside....did you see it Hero? My Father was converted!

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:31 PM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
All joking aside....did you see it Hero? My Father was converted!


Perhaps you might consider some type of in home care...someone to wipe the drool off your father's mouth and help him 'remember' you and the rest of your family. You have my sympathy, dementia in the elderly is very difficult.

All joking aside, I like Ron Paul, but I'd never vote for him. He and I disagree on too many things...like the color of the sky and whether up is down and down is up.

Sure, him vs. Dennis Kuncinich and it would be a close thing...Dennis having all that charisma vs. Ron Paul's complete lack of pratical ideas. In that case I'd vote for Alan Keyes (who apparently can just show up and be "running" all along).

H

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:56 PM

SIMONWHO


There's a lot of very positive things to say about Ron Paul but he simply cannot be picked in 2008 because he is a Republican and even a Republican who wants to bulldoze the Bush legacy and sow the ground with salt is still too Republican.

You need a clean break from the last eight years - it's not whether the next President will be better than Bush. Anybody is going to be better than Bush. It's about a statement of intent that Americans are going to regain the moral high ground, the intellectual high ground, the strategic high ground.

I suggest a compromise - the Democrats agree to nominate someone other than Hilary and the Republicans agree to vote for them. If you disagree, the Democrats will nominate her and make you sit through eight years of her leadership. Yeah, that compromise is looking pretty good right now, huh.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:23 PM

LEADB


I dunno. I'm wondering if that 22% approval rating for congress is going to back fire. The democrats have really stepped up to the plate and consistently struck out on three pitches. I will grant they at least had the guts to put a few bills up to Bush for not just one, but two, vetoes. But I have doubts even if they had 66 votes that they'd do anything helpful.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:24 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

If Ron Paul isn't nominated, I would consider voting for any Democrat who promises to preserve and protect my gun rights.

So far, none have surfaced.

It's unfortunate, because Democrats seem to be big on other Constitutional protections and rights.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:27 PM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
You need a clean break from the last eight years - it's not whether the next President will be better than Bush. Anybody is going to be better than Bush. It's about a statement of intent that Americans are going to regain the moral high ground, the intellectual high ground, the strategic high ground.



It's from this perspective that Ron Paul is the ONLY viable candidate. We need a clean break from the last eighty years and the same old, same old, republocrat crap ain't gonna cut it.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:57 PM

HKCAVALIER


Heya Sarge,

What did you find particularly revealing about this interview? I'm not knocking Dr. Paul, but I didn't hear much I hadn't heard before--though his comment about his fellow congressmen passing the Patriot Act site-unseen "because 9/11 just happened, and they expect us to do something" was priceless. Depressing, but priceless.

It's awful that in all the election processes I've witnessed, simple dignity and sincerity are so rare. Why do Americans love travelling salesmen so much that we elect one every 8 years?

One thing's for sure, the GOP is a grand mess this year. If it weren't for our two party "system" none of these boys, except Dr. Paul, would be anywhere. If it weren't for 9/11 happening in NYC, Rudy wouldn't have a prayer of winning. Mitt's the John Kerry of the Republican Party. That Huck's been the front runner for the past few weeks speaks volumes. The Republican Party hasn't been this confused and diffused since What's-his-name lost to FDR.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:30 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Simon ? as opposed to roll over and play dead Pelosi ?

At this point I'll take what I can GET, a drowning man doesn't care whether it's an oak or a pine log he grabs, long as it keeps him afloat.

As for the Patriot Act, it has always disturbed me that they had it written and ready to submit ahead of time - am I the only one that strikes alarm bells to ?

You know he's pretty solid when you have an Anarchist shilling for him - Constitutional Compliance is at LEAST a start, and in that respect his views and mine reach unity.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:26 PM

THATWEIRDGIRL


Thank you, sir.

I particularly like how affected he is by what happens to his friends and neighbors. He notices things and remembers them. He strives to grow and learn from not only his own actions but others'.

---
Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
-- Charlie Brown

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:47 AM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
What did you find particularly revealing about this interview? I'm not knocking Dr. Paul, but I didn't hear much I hadn't heard before...



I'd heard all the policy stuff before as well, but what I found most interesting was kind of subtle. I've suspected for a while now that he's been handed a little more than he bargained for with the success of his campaign. I think he gave in to requests from libertarians to run as a way to promote the values and principles he dearly believes in. I don't think he expected to have anything like a real chance to win. I think for him "success" was defined as speaking out on the national stage and injecting the ideas of non-interventionism and small government into the debate.

But the message has proven far more popular than he imagined it would. I'm sure that's very gratifying for him, but it also places a much heavier burden on him than a simple protest campaign would. You could see that in the interview. He'd rather be at home with his family than playing PR games with reporters on the campaign trail. And while it's slightly unnerving to think you might be supporting a candidate who has reservations about taking the job, that's exactly the kind of person I want in office. We've had enough of ambitious power mongers.

I also saw, in the discussion, genuine passion for the ideas. When he was talking about his fascination with Austrian economics, you could see that he views political ideology as something worth pursuing for its own sake, not just as a vehicle for acquiring power.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:45 AM

CANTTAKESKY


I'm just in love with Ron Paul.

(Despite his being an obstetrician, and my being a die-hard homebirther. But here's the beauty of it: he supports the right of women to choose to birth at home.)

Got freedom?



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Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:49 AM

JONGSSTRAW


If Paul had been President in 1940, we'd all be speaking Japanese & German now....well, some of us; the rest of us would never have been born.

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:15 AM

HKCAVALIER


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If Paul had been President in 1940, we'd all be speaking Japanese & German now....well, some of us; the rest of us would never have been born.


I know you're mostly here for the snark, Jongs, but where do y'all get the idea that Dr. Paul cannot/would not defend our country? Is it this old tired nonsense that we MUST fight this absurd war in Iraq in order to stay "safe" (no tag-backs)? Jesus, you still clinging to the goofy legend that the U.S. single handedly won WWII?

Last I checked, it's congress's duty to declare war, anyway. God forbid we have a president that would actually wait to go to war until it's declared...sigh

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:15 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If Paul had been President in 1940, we'd all be speaking Japanese & German now....well, some of us; the rest of us would never have been born.


I know you're mostly here for the snark, Jongs, but where do y'all get the idea that Dr. Paul cannot/would not defend our country? Is it this old tired nonsense that we MUST fight this absurd war in Iraq in order to stay "safe" (no tag-backs)? Jesus, you still clinging to the goofy legend that the U.S. single handedly won WWII?

Last I checked, it's congress's duty to declare war, anyway. God forbid we have a president that would actually wait to go to war until it's declared...sigh


Penny for the smart lady!
I don't think it's appropriate to refer to me as Jesus however.
If you think the US's role in defeating Japan & Germany is a "goofy legend", then who here is really being snarky?
Peacenik isolationists like Paul helped delay our entry into WWII...countless millions of lives were lost due to that delay. They ( the anti-war isolationist crowd ) were critically wrong then, and they are wrong now.




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Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:45 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Peacenik isolationists like Paul helped delay our entry into WWII...countless millions of lives were lost due to that delay.

First of all, he is not a peacenik isolationist. He is perfectly willing to go to war to defend our country--unlike Bush, he actually served in the armed forces the *entire* time he was supposed to. Unlike Bush, he just wants us to have good relationships with people who are not threatening us. Isolationist is just name-calling from people who WANT to meddle in other countries for their own agendas (not for the best interest of the USA).

Second of all, it is not necessarily right to assume that non-meddlers like Paul would not have entered WWII at the right time. WWII was a different animal. Everyone else was already at war BEFORE us. Hitler had already invaded several countries. All of our meddling done in the last 50 years involved us going out there alone or with one other country, trying to force some other country to do what WE want. Trying to step back from that doesn't mean we won't join an international alliance at war if necessary. It just means that if we do, and risk the lives of our soldiers, we better do it because the rest of our lives are at stake.

Finally, the decision to delay entering the war saved countless AMERICAN lives. Now, maybe more Americans *should* have been sacrificed to help save European lives, but had it been the other way around, I very much doubt that Europeans would have jumped right in without delay to save American lives.

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:25 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
[
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Peacenik isolationists like Paul helped delay our entry into WWII...countless millions of lives were lost due to that delay.

First of all, he is not a peacenik isolationist. He is perfectly willing to go to war to defend our country--unlike Bush, he actually served in the armed forces the *entire* time he was supposed to. Unlike Bush, he just wants us to have good relationships with people who are not threatening us. Isolationist is just name-calling from people who WANT to meddle in other countries for their own agendas (not for the best interest of the USA).

Second of all, it is not necessarily right to assume that non-meddlers like Paul would not have entered WWII at the right time. WWII was a different animal. Everyone else was already at war BEFORE us. Hitler had already invaded several countries. All of our meddling done in the last 50 years involved us going out there alone or with one other country, trying to force some other country to do what WE want. Trying to step back from that doesn't mean we won't join an international alliance at war if necessary. It just means that if we do, and risk the lives of our soldiers, we better do it because the rest of our lives are at stake.

Finally, the decision to delay entering the war saved countless AMERICAN lives. Now, maybe more Americans *should* have been sacrificed to help save European lives, but had it been the other way around, I very much doubt that Europeans would have jumped right in without delay to save American lives.


Very interesting, but I do not agree.
I see no evidence that Paul has ever or would ever support anything related to America's national security or the security of the "free" world.
As far as WWII, our delay entering the war allowed the Axis to expand, control, occupy, and entrench in all the countries they conquered. American blood was spilled defeating those forces, but the death toll of American soldiers and civilians of the world would not have been nearly so high if the Fascists had been confronted years earlier. The old saying...he who hesitates is lost....nearly came true back then. If we pander, appease, and enable by excuses what is going on with Islamo-fascist terrorism today, the body count will ultimately be much higher in the future.

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:48 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I see no evidence that Paul has ever or would ever support anything related to America's national security.

NO evidence? Having served in the Air Force doesn't count?

From www.ronpaul2008.com "No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution. " That means if Congress declares war, he'll support it.

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:24 AM

SIMONWHO


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:

Finally, the decision to delay entering the war saved countless AMERICAN lives. Now, maybe more Americans *should* have been sacrificed to help save European lives, but had it been the other way around, I very much doubt that Europeans would have jumped right in without delay to save American lives.



Decision to delay? Do you think that America chose to enter WWII? There are plenty of nations that could question the motives and courage of Britain and France; the Czechs in particular can call us cowards. But that is a very bad war to pick as an example of American resolve.

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Friday, December 21, 2007 7:09 AM

HKCAVALIER


It all boils down to Americans really having no way to integrate what happened on 9/11. No concept of grieving our terrible loss and moving on. The only psychologically acceptable resolution for these folks is the fantasy that such catastrophes can be prevented in some fool-proof absolute way. So many Americans having grown up with the fairy tale of America the Invincible, want to somehow return to that childish appraisal of our country's place in the world. And so, in order to prevent even the possibility of another terrorist attack on our soil we must prevent every and all threats, even potential potential threats, before they even exist! It's like cutting off a limb because you think it might be cancerous some day.

And this crap analogy with WWII is nonsense. When Saddam tried to annex a nearby country à la Hilter back in '81, what did the entire world do? Kicked his ass back to Baghdad! Now, we go in there unilaterally, on the thinnest pretext, depose Saddam and take over. What the hell does that have to do with WWII? It's utter crap UNLESS you buy into this deplorable fantasy that America must regain it's absolute sovereignty in the world (as outlined by PNAC). Amerika über alles.

Ron Paul is not a peacenik, he's simply a sanitynik, a due processnik and a constitutionnik. That some Americans believe we must forsake our constitution in order to survive, that adherense to the laws of this land weakens us, shows their utter lack of faith or belief in what makes this country great.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Monday, December 24, 2007 10:28 AM

CUNKNOWN


In Firefly terms, Ron Paul is a Browncoat! The other candidates supported Unification. Paul is running on a platform of independence for the colonies, an end to military Alliance rule, abolition of Blue Sun, and to put 'Two-by-two hands of Blue' in jail.

How can Firefly fans -not- vote for Paul?

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Wednesday, December 26, 2007 3:42 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
There are plenty of nations that could question the motives and courage of Britain and France; the Czechs in particular can call us cowards. But that is a very bad war to pick as an example of American resolve.

My apologies. My comments were not meant at all to impugn the courage of Europeans.

I only meant to say that Americans are not more cowardly or self-interested than Europeans. Europeans are not more so than Americans either.

I also used the term, "delay entering the war" because it was the term Jongstraw used (" isolationists delayed the entry" into the war.) I believe this delay saved a lot of Americans lives.

Just my opinion.

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Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:16 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


The video doesn't change my mind about Ron Paul in the least. He's a believer, ok. About what, I have no idea.

J/K, though he's not a leader. He's a man w/ lots of opinions and most of them he's too idealistic to be working in the real world, but he doesn't inspire me in the least. He might make a good policy advisor, but not much more. Good guy, don't get me wrong, there's a lot I like in what he says, it's just too flung to be taken seriously.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

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