Political Compass test by fredgiblet

I fell close to Dennis Kucinich (sp?), I agree with most of his positions (minus the UFO sightings) so at least on that front I think it's fairly accurate.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 4:33 PM

DEADLOCKVICTIM

i fall between Nelson Mandela and the Dali Lama....

(i think they had to expand the left side of the chart for me)

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Friday, February 22, 2008 4:38 PM

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82

That's hi-larious, according to this my political views and positioning are spot on with the Dalai Lama...

Somehow I think a few elements must be missing to be making THAT comparison an on apples to apples basis.

-F

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Friday, February 22, 2008 4:39 PM

I always get the same sorta thing "Liberal Libertarian' or some such...

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85

OMG, I'm the Dalai Lama.....

Chrisisall

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Friday, February 22, 2008 4:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

That's hi-larious, according to this my political views and positioning are spot on with the Dalai Lama...

I'm close...
Frem, you and I gots to meditate....

Holy Dolly, Batman Chrisisall

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Friday, February 22, 2008 5:11 PM

Well for Buddas sake at least reload for me while you're doin it... here, hand me another box of 7.62x39mm

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Friday, February 22, 2008 5:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
here, hand me another box of 7.62x39mm

OT, but I'm picking up an SKS tomorrow.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 5:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Well for Buddas sake at least reload for me while you're doin it... here, hand me another box of 7.62x39mm

"I've always believed that the mind is the best weapon."

Buddha-like Ramboisall

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Friday, February 22, 2008 5:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85

Here's my Wife:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.44

Wow...compared to her, I'm a NeoCon!!!

Authoritarian Chrisisall

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Friday, February 22, 2008 5:47 PM

KIRKULES

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

Wow...compared to her, I'm a NeoCon!!!

Authoritarian Chrisisall

That's what everyone likes about you Chrisisall, you are truly open minded. That's a rare thing and I commend you for it, even though I disagree with you 85% of the time.

Edit:RWED 85%, Science Fiction 2.5%

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Friday, February 22, 2008 6:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I'm in Ghandi's pool, but just barely.

Economic Left/Right: -0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.54

My extreme views on all sides tend to put me right back in the middle most of the time. I usually don't like tests like this, and I do believe that if I took it tomorrow I might have a different number because it's really impossible to only have 4 answers for such complex questions which require an infinite amount of shades of grey. All in all though, I'm happy with these results.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, February 22, 2008 6:12 PM

KIRKULES

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
shades of grey. All in all though, I'm happy with these results.

I had the same problem with two or three questions. I could have gone either way(agree or disagree) on them.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 7:08 PM

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OT, but I'm picking up an SKS tomorrow.

Not yugo-junk, I hope!
Of course, 'junk' is a relative word considering a design you can't possibly screw up.

Of course, I am rather fond of the old school, red star, com-bloc AK-47, even with the original gawdawful heavy, ugly wood - it's just a tool to me so I don't give a damn what it looks like.

I still haven't figured out what the heck to do with that Radom, however.

-F

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Friday, February 22, 2008 7:27 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Economic Left/Right: 3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.10

Interesting. I'm pretty firmly on the economic right, but right in the center of the social spectrum, according to this test.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=3.50&soc=-0
.10

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Friday, February 22, 2008 11:51 PM

FLETCH2

-2.12, -2.72
Humm, I'm thinking that the test is probably more than a little biased if I'm on the left of Gordon Brown.

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by Fletch2:
-2.12, -2.72
Humm, I'm thinking that the test is probably more than a little biased if I'm on the left of Gordon Brown.

And me...

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:48 AM

DAVESHAYNE

Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00

That's correct folks. I'm more Ghandi than Ghandi.

David

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:33 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Economic Left/Right -8.25
Social Libertarian/ Authoritarian -6.21

Wow Daveshayne, you got ME beat. And I didn't think that was possible! And so does Chrisisall's wife. Now I don't feel so alone!

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Let's party like it's 1929.

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:58 AM

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Not yugo-junk, I hope!

Not sure, but I'm buying it from a gun-nut friend so I don't think he'd buy junk to begin with. I suspect that it's Russian, I'll have to remember to ask him.

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:18 AM

You know, I've never understood those folk.

That's their thing and they're welcome to it, especially given my views on the 2nd Amendment...

But to me it's just a tool, like a fire extinguisher, a wrench or a power drill, with no aesthetic or emotional involvement whatsoever, and none of the morbid fascination some seem to have.

In fact I understand that even less than people who are frightened out of their wits at the very presence of one, but hey, at long as they play safely, whatever makes em happy, I guess.

But really it makes as much sense as collecting hammers... to me at least.

<-- not gettin it

-F

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:02 AM

Different tools for different jobs? Spares in case one of the tools breaks?

Oh and it's Chinese.

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:13 PM

SERGEANTX

Bah!

Buncha loaded questions. These things always are. I couldn't get past the first question. I certainly don't think the world wide economy should 'serve' the interests of trans-national corporations, but I'm pretty sure that what they mean by 'serve humanity' involves more governmental meddling than I'd be happy with, i.e. any at all.

The economy is like the weather, it doesn't 'serve' any interests, it just is. You can use it to your advantage or you can whine about it. But if you go monkeying with it, if you think you can make 'better' through decree, the results aren't likely to be what you expect.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:24 PM

DARKJESTER

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

Sounds about right.

I agree though, there were a few questions that I wish had a "Not So Important" option, instead of only yes or no.

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

http://www.fireflytalk.com - Big Damn Podcast

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Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:09 AM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79
Like many of you I appear to be in Ghandi's pond. Not entirely surprising but I have a very different view of violence. His way was amirable, but it is not mine.

You know, I really think they need a neutral response in that test. I just didn't feel that strongly about some of those questions.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:16 PM

I do believe that where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence. Hence it was that I took part in the Boer War, the so-called Zulu rebellion and the late War. Hence also do I advocate training in arms for those who believe in the method of violence. I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honour than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonour. But I believe that non-violence is infinitely superior to violence, forgiveness is more manly than punishment. Forgiveness adorns a soldier. But abstinence is forgiveness only when proceed from a helpless creature.

A mouse hardly forgives a cat when it allows itself to be torn to pieces by her. I, therefore, appreciate the sentiment of those who cry out for the condign punishment of General Dyer and his like. They would tear him to pieces if they could. But I do not believe India to be helpless. I do not believe myself to be a helpless creature. Only I want to use India's and my strength for a better purpose.

Let me not be misunderstood. Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will. An average Zulu is any way more than a match for an average Englishman in bodily capacity. But he flees from an English boy, because he fears the boys revolver or those who will use it for him. He fears death and is nerveless in spite of his burly figure. We in India may in a moment realize that one hundred thousand Englishmen need not frighten three hundred million human beings. A definite forgiveness would therefore mean a definite recognition of our strength. With enlightened forgiveness must come a mighty wave of strength in us, which would make it impossible for a Dyer and a Frank Johnson to heap affront upon Indias devoted head. It matters little to me that for the moment I do not drive my point home. We feel too downtrodden not to be angry and revengeful. But I must not refrain from saying that India can gain more by waiving the right of punishment. We have better work to do, a better mission to deliver to the world.

Ghandi advocated non-violent resistance, because it gave them no excuse to shoot you, and because it did not require the sacrifice of life, something he considered precious - self-defense against someone directly meaning to kill you, he was utterly not opposed to.

Simple non-compliance, a refusal to "play ball" with the established order, bend your life to their convenience, jump through their hoops, or inform on others, is indeed an effective method of resistance, one much harder to prosecute, or oppress.

Same with dealing with an interpersonal "situation", part of being a mature, adult, human being is attempting to use reason and negotiation if possible to resolve the issue.

But should that not work and you find yourself facing someone who is not going to be influanced by reason, there comes a time for violence, which you use to defend your person, family and property, rather than surrender them because it's the only alternative left to you.

All he was ever saying, was try to be mature first, offer the open hand.
But keep the pistol handy, just in case.

Never understood why folks class that kind of pacifism as being a doormat, if you threatened his life at home he likely would have shot you, he may not have carried it with him to avoid legal and temptation issues, but some historical accounts hint that he did have a weapon in his home.

He just didn't believe in restorting to that sort of thing unless you absolutely had to, and he acknowledged that sometimes, you did.

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."

Reason first, shoot if you must... sounds like common sense to me, not pacifism.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:18 PM

Oh, and yeah, that test needed an option for "I don't care."

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Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Never understood why folks class that kind of pacifism as being a doormat

Possibly because they are unaware of it? I was under the impression that Ghandi refused to resort to violence at all, hence the feeling of doormat.

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Monday, February 25, 2008 1:37 AM

Ah.

The question to ask yourself about that, is where and how you got that impression.

Answer that, and the rest is self-explanatory.

-F

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Monday, February 25, 2008 8:13 AM

CANTTAKESKY

Fred,

Gandhi once called the police to remove some moocher friend who stayed at his house and refused to leave and get a job. He is not averse to using force when all else fails, and is definitely not a doormat.

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The only tyrant I accept in this world is the still voice within.
-Mahatma Gandhi

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Monday, February 25, 2008 8:29 AM

CANTTAKESKY

Economic Left/Right: 0.38 (My red dot touches the center line!)

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97

I see a lot of leftists here. But I'm glad I also see a lot of people on the negative side of authoritarianism. Cool.

I'm surprised there aren't a lot of far right libertarians here. Or anywhere. Apparently no one famous is very conservative and libertarian at the same time.

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If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything.
--Mark Twain

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Monday, February 25, 2008 8:37 AM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Fred,
I never assumed Ghandi was a doormat. No doormat could have done the things that he did. I'm just saying that violence was a court of last resort for him. I tend to go there quicker. I't not a good thing but it's something I know about myself.

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

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Monday, February 25, 2008 8:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
The question to ask yourself about that, is where and how you got that impression.

Answer that, and the rest is self-explanatory.

Pop-culture osmosis mostly, I never cared to investigate and the topic never came up in school.

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Monday, February 25, 2008 10:49 AM

Ah the glories of assumption, eh ?

I'll admit for the sake of honesty that I originally thought that too, but I tend to question my assumptions and confirm or discard them whenever possible.

Finding out that most of what my public school "history" teacher was pushing was so twisted as to be downright propaganda really skewed my opinion of information from "official" sources forevermore.

I do try negotiating first, but I am not real good at it with "normal" folk - however, I AM very good at negotiation with the low end of society and those of criminal bent...

That's actually kept me from being robbed or hassled where I pick up, cause I am friends with enough of the locals that anyone considering it will get mangled for even thinking of it.

There's a merit to friends in low places, sometimes.

-F

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Monday, February 25, 2008 12:14 PM

FLETCH2

As other people have said he saw violence as a last resort. He also understood that the path of non violence was not an easy one and therefore no place for the coward. In his mind it was better to be violent and brave than a none violent coward, because you can teach a violent man to be none violent while teaching a coward to be brave is much harder.

Still I think his philosophy has more merit that the Fremworld one of "I've got a GUN now I can cap anyone that messes with me." It's a takes a stronger man to walk the line of non violent resistance than to exert the few grams of force needed to pull a trigger.

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Monday, February 25, 2008 12:43 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Funny:

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.00

It put me on the graph somewhere to the left of the Dalai Lama and just to the right of Gandhi, far in the "southwest" corner of the graph, as a left-leaning libertarian type. Sounds pretty close, actually...

Sweeping generalizations are always wrong!

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Monday, February 25, 2008 1:17 PM