McCain now ahead of Obama and Clinton by Skywalken

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Yeah, really weird when you consider the sheer numbers: On Super Tuesday, Obama & Clinton each garnered well over 7 million votes, while McCain managed to get 3.2 million.

Also, note that in most states, new voter registrations are running almost 4-to-1 Democrat versus Republican.

I get a feeling McCain's going to find out how Mondale felt...

Mike

"Me want Kill-Dozer!!"

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:34 AM

Wasn't he the guy who LOST the Hawaiian primary in spite of running utterly unopposed ?

Man, that musta been a confidence builder.

-F

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Wasn't he the guy who LOST the Hawaiian primary in spite of running utterly unopposed ?

Man, that musta been a confidence builder.

-F

Tell me about it. That's almost as good as John Ashcroft running for state office back in his home state of Misery - erm, Missouri - back in the day, and losing to a DEAD GUY!

Remember, if Ashcroft can't do it, no BODY can... :)

M

"Me want Kill-Dozer!!"

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Saturday, March 1, 2008 3:18 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

McCain will continue pushing ahead as long as the Democrats turn on each other

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Saturday, March 1, 2008 5:23 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

All it depends on the source. Most of the polls (7 out of 9) listed on this site have Obama ahead of McCain.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

PS Damn I count like a Floridian that's 6 of 9.

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Sunday, March 2, 2008 8:28 AM

ANTIMASON

i dont now if this election is progress from 2004 or not; we were stuck with two SKull and Bones members then, now we've got 3 CFR members!! its complete chicanery, and not one of these collectivists deserves my vote. more terrifying is the prospect of McCain or Hillary behind the levers of all these newly acquired executive powers, or the 'red button' for that matter. in the event of an economic meltdown, or another terror attack, we can all but kiss this country goodbye with any one of these pseudo intellectual political hacks and cheats in charge. what little semblance of integrity or virtue left in the whitehouse will all be but a quaint memory. the position of president has been elevated to dictator status.. just wait till we get to the dictating.

out of curiousity, will the two socialist democrats still swear under oath, on the bible, to uphold the constitution? or may i suggest secular humanism, the Koran, and the communist manifesto

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Sunday, March 2, 2008 9:46 AM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

Does it really matter what they swear on? As long as they really mean it. The current executive swore on the bible and his adminstration has done a lot to tear down the constitution.

Maybe they could swear on Thoreau's Life Without Principle?

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Sunday, March 2, 2008 2:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Maybe they could swear on Thoreau's Life Without Principle?

Now I gotta read Life Without Principe.... I know I have it in a text file somewhere around here? How long is it? Should I buy another ream of paper? My eyes can't stand reading a novel on the monitor.

I thought I have read something by him in the past, but nothing is ringing a bell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Sunday, March 2, 2008 3:02 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

The basic ideas are here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Without_Principle

And there's two links to the text at the bottom.

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Sunday, March 2, 2008 3:19 PM

SERGEANTX

Hmmm... I'm trying real hard to give a shit, but...

nothing's coming. Ow well. FOUR MORE YEARS!!!

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Sunday, March 2, 2008 3:21 PM

FREDGIBLET

"Similarly, politics is something that ought to be a minor and discreet part of life, not the grotesque public sport it has become."

And that was in the mid-1800's.

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Sunday, March 2, 2008 3:35 PM

*hands Sarge a bran muffin*

Flush twice, D.C.'s pretty far from here.

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Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:54 PM

Rasmussen now has McCain five points ahead of Obama and four points ahead of Clinton.

McCain also has a six-point lead over both Obama and Clinton in the critical swing state of Ohio. He has also recently gained ground against them in both Michigan and Pennsylvania.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082
/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Geraldo Rivera (who is a liberal Democrat) says is now "utterly convenced that the Republicans will retain the white House"...and it's because of the Dems infighting.

He starts explaining his reasoning at about 3:40.

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Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:16 PM

SERGEANTX

Well, there's no chance the neo-cons will lose, that's for sure.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Monday, March 17, 2008 1:29 PM

Rasmussen now has McCain beating Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton by an identical 48% to 42% margin.

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Monday, March 17, 2008 4:18 PM

ARCLIGHT

let me quote " Friends, we live in the greatest nation in the the world. I want your help to change it."

osama
what an idiot.
nuff said.

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Monday, March 17, 2008 5:00 PM

The above quote is a lie. Interestingly, it was originally ascribed to McCain. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/change.asp

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:14 AM

And just to blow it up before certain folk dare to post it...

The most recent Faery Tale is also bullshit,

In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama campaign has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.
-William Kristol

He regrets gettin *caught* is what it is.

I don't mind him hatin on Obama, hell, even I do that - but surely there's enough real issues with the guy that he shouldn't need to just pull stuff out of his ass, especially on the pages of a mainstream newspaper, if a more liberal columnist did that, they'd be shown the door before the day was out.

Which is what I believe oughta happen to Kristol, but all the media is sooo terrified of being accused of liberal bias, they'll let rightwingnuts do anything - what a perfect scam.

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:18 PM

Here's an interesting analysis of Senator McCain's prospects by a blogger:

"Even before he knows who his opponent will be, the 2008 presidential election looks to be developing into a shoe-in for Senator John McCain and the Republicans.

Granted, there is a lot of time between now and November, and a lot can happen in a very short time when it comes to presidential elections. Heck, three of the four names on the ballot have yet to be determined. How then, can one reasonably project the winner of an election that hasn't even begun? The answer lies in a multitude of factors that will make a Democratic victory in November extremely unlikely, if not impossible.

This may come as a bit of a surprise to those paying attention. For one thing, Senator McCain is the candidate for the party that produced the sitting president, who also happens to be one of the most unpopular presidents in American history. Additionally, voting trends in House and Senate races the past two years have overwhelmingly favored the Democrats. On top of all that, McCain is extremely unpopular among conservatives who have long been the GOP's electoral bread-and-butter.

So how does this add up to an easy victory for McCain in November? The answer lies in a multitude of factors:

1. Match-up dynamics - McCain matches up far better in a one-on-one contest against a Democrat than he ever did in a primary field full of Republicans. His broad appeal may have hurt him among conservatives, but will help him lure in independent and crossover voters.

2. Conservatives will vote for him anyway - The conservative faction of the Republican Party will turn out in force to vote for McCain, whether they like him or not. In fact, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if conservatives turn out in record numbers to support the candidate they said they'd never vote for. The reason for this is that conservatives don't really vote for their candidate as they vote against liberals and Democrats. Regardless of who the Democrats' candidate turns out to be, the GOP's conservative base will have plenty of reason to show up to the polls to vote against him or her.

3. The Democratic Primaries - Democrat voter haven't helped out their own cause much by dragging out their party's primary until the bitter end. Supporters of both candidates have been somewhat embittered by what they consider unfair tactics being deployed by the other. McCain and the GOP have at least a two-month head start to began putting together a case against either Clinton or Obama. This time will also aide them in fundraising activities. In addition to all this, until one of them wins, Senators Clinton and Obama will continue to spend precious campaign funds beating up each other, which helps neither of them defeat Senator McCain.

4. Florida and Michigan - The DNC shot itself in the foot when Howard Dean made the decision to strip the two potential swing-states of their delegates to the national convention. In what has largely been seen as a slight to the voters of these two states, the Democratic nominee will have some catching up to do if he or she were to win either of these two states. No matter who wins the Democrat Primary, there will be loyal Democrat voters who will inevitably feel as though their candidate was given the shaft by the party.

5. The Obama preacher issue - Like it or not, Senator Obama's association with his radical church and pastor will still be a major issue in November if he wins the Democrat nomination. This effect will be exacerbated by his middle name (Hussein), regardless of whether it's fair or not. The Democratic Party leaders know this, and it will be intriguing to see whether or not and to what extent they pressure the Superdelegates, if in fact Obama finishes with more popular delegates. The Superdelegate system exists for just this scenario --- if the voters choose the wrong candidate (the one less likely to win the main election). If Obama wins the popular delegate count, the question becomes whether or not the party has the fortitude to actually use the system the way it was intended, and in doing so subvert the will of the people.

In taking all of these factors into consideration, the forecast looks increasingly bright for McCain and the GOP. While there is plenty of time for the Dems to get things turned around, at this point them doing so appears unlikely at best.

For the record, the objective of this post and this blog is not to advocate a particular candidate or party. The idea is to inform readers of what I think will happen, from the standpoint of the present competitive dynamics, and how they look to project into the future. I'm not writing about what should happen or what I'd like to happen. Rather, the purpose of this post (and one of the goals of this blog) is to inform readers of what will happen before it does."

http://mainstream180.blogspot.com/2008/03/presidential-race-is-mccains
-to-lose.html

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:12 AM

Not a bad subjective summary, but you know, I think the author has severely underestimated the backlash and blowback effect of back to back Bush.

As I mentioned in another thread, Fremgirl is a staunch law and order conservative, and according to her, after this debacle she ain't never, ever, not in a million years ever voting for a Republican ever again.

Unfortunately she includes Ron Paul in that, no matter how she feels about him or his policies, that (R) means no way in hell.

Strangely, one of my southern contacts, who has some leanings toward the whole white supremacy concept (idiotic, you ask me) is cussin and spittin all the while planning to vote for Obama although he'd rather be roasted in boiling oil, cause the Republicans failed utterly on immigration, and every other platform that seemed to matter to him - and the thought of "that woman" in charge offends him utterly since he doesn't trust her not to try outlawing his guns (he collects em) or to do anything about "all these foreigners" either...

So I get to laugh as he cusses and spits about having to not only change his voter registration, but throws a genuine hellfire and brimstone tirade about the only candidate he can possibly stomach being... a, well, you know what he called him.

And yeah, I yanked his chain about it too.
"So, you mean to tell me the Klan is votin Obama ?"
What he said after that, I'll not repeat here, bwahahaha.

As for Dean, I suspect he might have done that little bit of sandbagging intentionally in return for what the DNC did to him, could be he's holding a bit of a grudge.

Whatever puny bit of respect I had for his party, and it weren't much, I lost when they shafted him for not toeing the party line instead of serving the people - and lost all respect for him when in response he kowtowed to the bastards.

Neither party is worth a shit, nor are their candidates, and other than the general drift and direction of the corruption, it's six o one, and half dozen to the other, but time has a way of makin people forget - public perception seems to be that Clinton screwed Lewinksy, but Bush screwed us all...

Which ain't true, cause it weren't Bush that stuck us with NAFTA, but try tellin folk anythin these days...

Anyhow, I suspect you could prolly dig up the bones of Carl Panzram, slap a (D) on them and make a fair showing off the blowback alone, simply cause it's not an (R).

Not hard to beat a pack of laughingstocks, all you have to do is manage to just be not AS stupid or corrupt - and it's pretty shameful that the two berks offered from the other side have trouble with this.

-Frem
"THIS is civilisation ? thank Crom I am a barbarian!"
-Conan

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:30 AM

Obama is fading fast & his "negatives" are only now beginning to explode in the media. The Dems are in a real pickle 'cause he's their candidate. He has the delegate lead and Hillary cannot catch him...Only the super delegates can alter the Dem's fate...but if they toss aside Obama for a "more electable" Hillary, then they will have created another set of problems for themselves. The Dem. Convention looks to be a real hum-dinger.

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:12 AM

Yep, I may bust on the Repugs for incompetence in the world domination game, but goddamn, man...

The Dems are incompetent even getting to the table!

They oughta change the party motto.
"The Democratic Party, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory since 1988 and counting!"

If they weren't so damn wishywashy and gutless, they coulda not only had this one on a plate, but made a case for RICO prosecution/persecution (however you wanna look at it) of their opposition.

The fact that there's any competition in this at all is due to something best called...

Parity of Incompetence.

-F

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:28 AM

Yeah, can't disagree with you on this. A strong Dem candidate should be ahead in the national polls for President by something like 65% to 35%...even with the Dem Congress approval rate in the low 20's, the Dems should never have been in a horse race with McCain. I cannot believe that McCain is polling so strongly. I cannot think of one reason why actually. I think the fallout over the Obama mess(s) is going to rip the party apart shortly, even before the Convention. Hillary smells blood in the water. She must be working on those super delegates night & day....playing on their fears of a McCain presidency. Poor Howard Dean...in his wildest nightmares he never could have imagined a scenario like this. And the real hoot in all this for me personally is ...the media. They don't know what the hell to do. They alternatively attack Hillary, and then they attack Obama. I honestly never thought I'd see a day when the media would hound them so hard...I really don't get it...or is it that they just have nothing else to do right now? MSNBC, if anybody actually watched that network, is taking great joy in this....Dan Abrams & Olbermann are excoriating every word they say, and calling them on the carpet for it....I keep looking to verify that I'm seeing this on MSNBC...what the hell is going on. I can't believe for a minute they support McCain, so is this Dem bashing just a new sport for them....ie why just limit your hateful attacks to Republicans when you can double or triple your fun by doing the same to Democrats.

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:25 PM

Quote:
why just limit your hateful attacks to Republicans when you can double or triple your fun by doing the same to Democrats.

Exactly!

Imma equal opportunity flamer, save some for the Greens too, that sellout creep Nader shouldn't get a pass neither.

-F

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Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:41 PM

Rasmussen now has McCain ahead of Obama by 7 percent, McCain ahead of Clinton by 10 percent.

Today, it's McCain's 49% to Obama's 42% and McCain's 51% to Clinton's 41%.

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Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:17 PM

ALLIETHORN7

Well, fuck me...
Canada is looking more cozy each day...

-Danny

Listen well... will you marry me?
Not now, Boy
Are you well in the Suffering?
You've been the most gracious of hosts
I may be invited, girl, but I'm not coming in

Hey, Hey!
If it was up to me (you had your hold)
I would've figured you out
Way before the year clocked out
Oh, I hope you're waiting

The Band of the week is... Coheed and Cambria

Gott weiß ich will kein Engel sein.
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Monday, March 24, 2008 1:32 PM

Today, Rasmussen has McCain ahead of Clinton by 7 percent, 49% to 42%. McCain is ahead of Obama by 9 percent, 50% to 41%.

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Monday, March 24, 2008 2:11 PM

KIRKULES

Quote:
Originally posted by Skywalken:
Today, Rasmussen has McCain ahead of Clinton by 7 percent, 49% to 42%. McCain is ahead of Obama by 9 percent, 50% to 41%.

I think we might be seeing a trend here. It looks like McCain and Clinton are splitting up the votes of those deserting Obama.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 6:34 AM

Someone may have asked this question already, but aren't the Democrats mobilizing way more voters in their primaries than McCain has been? If so, I don't think the Democrats can be counted out of the race. Once they pick out a candidate, won't those multitudes vote (likely) democrat in the general election? They seem passionate about their candidates and ready to get out of their houses and vote. Does McCain inspire that level of passion? Will the people who say they'll vote for McCain in surveys, actually get out of their houses and vote on election day?

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:02 AM

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Originally posted by Malachite:
Someone may have asked this question already, but aren't the Democrats mobilizing way more voters in their primaries than McCain has been? If so, I don't think the Democrats can be counted out of the race. Once they pick out a candidate, won't those multitudes vote (likely) democrat in the general election? They seem passionate about their candidates and ready to get out of their houses and vote. Does McCain inspire that level of passion? Will the people who say they'll vote for McCain in surveys, actually get out of their houses and vote on election day?

Malachite, hush! Don't ruin all their fun.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:08 AM

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:10 AM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Quote:
Originally posted by Malachite:
Someone may have asked this question already, but aren't the Democrats mobilizing way more voters in their primaries than McCain has been? If so, I don't think the Democrats can be counted out of the race. Once they pick out a candidate, won't those multitudes vote (likely) democrat in the general election? They seem passionate about their candidates and ready to get out of their houses and vote. Does McCain inspire that level of passion? Will the people who say they'll vote for McCain in surveys, actually get out of their houses and vote on election day?
Malachite, hush! Don't ruin all their fun.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

Oh! Sorry.

Please ignore my comment then.

These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along...

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:34 AM

I guess the only real question is....will there be enough time (10 weeks) to heal for the half of the Democrats that are gonna be devastated & distraught when their candidate doesn't get the nomination at the Convention? I seriously doubt that 100% of either the Hillary or the Obama people are gonna switch to t'other. A lot of these first-time newly-registered folks are going to be very dis-illusioned by the process with the Super Delegates that comes out of Denver, and will choose to stay home on Election Day. The only bright spot in this battle for me is that I'm seeing more of James Carville on the tube lately. He is one insane, yet incredibly charming, smart, and interesting fellow. He's on Hillary's last line of defense....if anybody can woo the Supers, he can.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:57 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I guess the only real question is....will there be enough time (10 weeks) to heal for the half of the Democrats that are gonna be devastated & distraught when their candidate doesn't get the nomination at the Convention? I seriously doubt that 100% of either the Hillary or the Obama people are gonna switch to t'other. A lot of these first-time newly-registered folks are going to be very dis-illusioned by the process with the Super Delegates that comes out of Denver, and will choose to stay home on Election Day. The only bright spot in this battle for me is that I'm seeing more of James Carville on the tube lately. He is one insane, yet incredibly charming, smart, and interesting fellow. He's on Hillary's last line of defense....if anybody can woo the Supers, he can.

Yeah, it will be interesting to see whether the enthusiasm of half the democrats for their candidate plus the desire of the other half of the democrats to get Republicans out of the oval office will be sufficient to beat McCain. In some ways, I think polls have very little predictive value at this point.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:17 AM

I think you might be surprised just how partisan the Dems can be, Jongs.

No Hillary supporter I've talked to--and I've talked to a ton--hates Obama. The Hillary supporters I've talked to would fall into the "dyed in the wool Dem" category--they'll vote for Obama if the party goes with him. Obama supporters on the other hand tend to have a mounting contempt for Hillary/Billary. If Hillary gets the nod, I could definitely see a bunch of Obama supporters staying home and getting drunk come November.

But seriously, as long as the Democratic nomination is hotly contested, Barack and Hillary will prolly poll at least 5 to 7 points worse than either would if they were alone in the Dem field (prolly a bunch more). As soon as the Dems get it together (and with Bill Richardson's endorsement coming out this week, they may just do it), I think you'll see a big, big bounce in support for the Dem nominee.

McCain is the ultimate "also ran." He won the Republican nomination because he was by far the least interesting and therefor least controversial candidate. But in the general election, the battlelines will be drawn, so to speak, and McCain's lackadaisical which-ever-way-the-Right-wing-wind-blows presence will no longer be an advantage.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I think you might be surprised just how partisan the Dems can be, Jongs. No Hillary supporter I've talked to--and I've talked to a ton--hates Obama. The Hillary supporters I've talked to would fall into the "dyed in the wool Dem" category--they'll vote for Obama if the party goes with him. Obama supporters on the other hand tend to have a mounting contempt for Hillary/Billary. If Hillary gets the nod, I could definitely see a bunch of Obama supporters staying home and getting drunk come November.

But seriously, as long as the Democratic nomination is hotly contested, Barack and Hillary will prolly poll at least 5 to 7 points worse than either would if they were alone in the Dem field (prolly a bunch more). As soon as the Dems get it together (and with Bill Richardson's endorsement coming out this week, they may just do it), I think you'll see a big, big bounce in support for the Dem nominee.

McCain is the ultimate "also ran." He won the Republican nomination because he was by far the least interesting and therefor least controversial candidate. But in the general election, the battlelines will be drawn, so to speak, and McCain's lackadaisical which-ever-way-the-Right-wing-wind-blows presence will no longer be an advantage.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

I can agree with your assessment here HK. Hillary "people" tend to be older and more moderate, and will transition to Obama fairly easily. It's the Obamacans that are the question. They tend to be younger and more radical in their zeal to see him as President. They don't have too much, if any, experience with losing, and their "group" reaction if Hillary gets the nod ought to prove quite interesting.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Malachite:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I guess the only real question is....will there be enough time (10 weeks) to heal for the half of the Democrats that are gonna be devastated & distraught when their candidate doesn't get the nomination at the Convention? I seriously doubt that 100% of either the Hillary or the Obama people are gonna switch to t'other. A lot of these first-time newly-registered folks are going to be very dis-illusioned by the process with the Super Delegates that comes out of Denver, and will choose to stay home on Election Day. The only bright spot in this battle for me is that I'm seeing more of James Carville on the tube lately. He is one insane, yet incredibly charming, smart, and interesting fellow. He's on Hillary's last line of defense....if anybody can woo the Supers, he can.

Yeah, it will be interesting to see whether the enthusiasm of half the democrats for their candidate plus the desire of the other half of the democrats to get Republicans out of the oval office will be sufficient to beat McCain. In some ways, I think polls have very little predictive value at this point.

I agree. I can't see how Presidential polls at this point in time have any significance or basis for accuracy.

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:
out of curiousity, will the two socialist democrats still swear under oath, on the bible, to uphold the constitution? or may i suggest secular humanism, the Koran, and the communist manifesto

I don't know - did the fascist Bush swear under oath on his copy of Mein Kampf?

Should I really give a fuck what book they swear on, as long as they actually UPHOLD THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION?!

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JaynezTown:
McCain will continue pushing ahead as long as the Democrats turn on each other

That sounds about right. Unfortunately.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by arclight:
let me quote " Friends, we live in the greatest nation in the the world. I want your help to change it."

osama
what an idiot.
nuff said.

Did your parents have any kids that lived?

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:54 PM

PIRATEJENNY

I don't believe McCain is ahead of anybody Clinton or O'bama

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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:03 PM

PIRATEJENNY

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Obama is fading fast & his "negatives" are only now beginning to explode in the media. The Dems are in a real pickle 'cause he's their candidate. He has the delegate lead and Hillary cannot catch him...Only the super delegates can alter the Dem's fate...but if they toss aside Obama for a "more electable" Hillary, then they will have created another set of problems for themselves. The Dem. Convention looks to be a real hum-dinger.

what negatives do Obama have none that I can see unless your talking about his blackness, Hillary comes with far more baggage then Obama.

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Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:19 AM

Obama's negatives are that he's an inexperienced empty suit who's B.F.F. is a racist, anti-American, anti-Israel filth spewing hatemonger.

By the way, today Rasmussen now has McCain ahead of Obama by 10 percent and ahead of Clinton by 7 percent. It's McCain' 51% to Obama's 41% and McCain' 50% to Clinton's 43%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/content/view/full/4547

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Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:29 AM

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Originally posted by Skywalken:
Obama's negatives are that he's an inexperienced empty suit who's B.F.F. is a racist, anti-American, anti-Israel filth spewing hatemonger.

By the way, today Rasmussen now has McCain ahead of Obama by 10 percent and ahead of Clinton by 7 percent. It's McCain' 51% to Obama's 41% and McCain' 50% to Clinton's 43%.

Why ya wastin' your time responding to this person. This person stated in previous post above that Rev Wright speaks the TRUTH. How scary is that? How can you hope to have any dialogue with someone who agrees that his racist, paranoid rantings and his vile anti-American delusions are the truth? Even the best, well-practiced race-baiters and con men Jackson and Sharpton have said that his remarks are shameful...just like Obama has said. But it's not even that, not about the rightous Rev...it's about Obama's ability to judge character. Apparently he's been just fine with the Rev's anti-Americanism for decades, and he is also just fine having a close friendship with an ex-felon Weather Underground domestic terrorist too. His buddy spent years in Federal prison, convicted of setting off bombs in Govt buildings, including the Pentagon...but I guess Obama wasn't aware of that tiny aspect of his friend's life either.

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Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:00 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

Gallup Poll daily tracking. Five-day rolling average. N=approx. 4,400 registers voters nationwide. MoE ± 2.

McCain (R) 45
Obama (D) 44
Other (vol.) 1
Neither (vol.) 5
Unsure 5
Survey end date 3/24/08

McCain (R) 46
Clinton (D) 45
Other (vol.) 1
Neither (vol.) 4
Unsure 3
Survey end date 3/24/08

FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. March 18-19, 2008. N=900 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3. LV = likely voters

McCain (R) 43
Clinton (D) 46
Other (vol.)/ unsure 11
3/18-19/08

McCain (R) 44
Obama (D) 43
Other (vol.)/ Unsure 13
3/18-19/08

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Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:07 AM