Meanwhile, in Zimbabwe... by Geezer

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Meanwhile, in Zimbabwe...

POSTED BY: GEEZER
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 01:08
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Friday, April 25, 2008 6:54 AM

Keep the Shiny side up

Still no results from the Presidential election held last month. The consensus is that if Mugabe had won it would have been announced by now.

The opposition MDC Presidential candidate, Morgan Tsvangirai, who seems to have won a slim majority of the vote, is staying out of the country in fear for his life.

The MDC party won a majority in the House of Assembly, and in the Senate neither MDC or ZANU-PF have a majority. 23 House seat election votes are being recounted, but very slowly.

The other governments in the region are being very accommodating to Pres. Mugabe, a hero of the liberation struggle back in the 80's, and saying pretty much nothing. However, the people of South Africa have prevented a shipment of small arms ammo, mortar rounds and RPGs from China from being shipped to Zimbabwe by refusing to unload the ship and threatening roadblocks and civil disobediece.

Pro-ZANU-PF para-militaries and groups of "war veterans" have been terrorizing and beating suspected MDC supporters. There are reports of 10 or more deaths.

The Zimbabwe Federal police have raided both MDC headquarters and the HQ of the independent election monitoring body, arresting hundreds and confiscating computers, papers, etc.

Inflation is 100,000% or more and unemployment is 80%+. Millions are getting out of the country and crossing to South Africa and Mozambique.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, April 25, 2008 8:07 AM

CITIZEN

Oh, so you've bought into the British Imperialistic propeganda, that hounds the glorious Mugabe!

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Friday, April 25, 2008 12:31 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Oh, so you've bought into the British Imperialistic propeganda, that hounds the glorious Mugabe!

Okay. To clarify, just for you.

"The other governments in the region are being very accommodating to Pres. Mugabe, who they considera hero of the liberation struggle back in the 80's, and saying pretty much nothing."

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, April 25, 2008 9:32 PM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Okay. To clarify, just for you.

Yeah, erm, how does that have anything to do with what I said? Britain isn't in the same region as Zimbabwe, I mean I know you're an American, but I'm not asking you to point out the two countries on a map, just to realise that North Western Europe and Southern Africa, are literally a world away from each other

.

Actually I was referring to the numerous statements by Mugabe and his supporters, that there's nothing wrong and it's all British propaganda. Also the accusations that the MDC just want to re-establish colonial rule, backed by most likely forged letters pledging military support from Gordon Brown. But thanks for playing.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:03 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Cit, just riffin' n your recent propensity to turn everything into a flamewar. Have fun with that.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:15 AM

CITIZEN

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Cit, just riffin' n your recent propensity to turn everything into a flamewar. Have fun with that.

Of course, your stupid flamebait response is my fault, its always someone else's fault.

You sound like Mugabe, good luck with that.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 3:15 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Still no results from the Presidential election held last month. The consensus is that if Mugabe had won it would have been announced by now.

Of course, Mugabe won the election. That’s what you do when you’re an autocratic ruler - its in your job title. All they’re doing now is trying to figure out how to explain this to a population that thought they voted for someone.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:57 AM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Of course, Mugabe won the election. That’s what you do when you’re an autocratic ruler - its in your job title. All they’re doing now is trying to figure out how to explain this to a population that thought they voted for someone.

Isn't it obvious?

"President Mugabe has ascertained that the British rigged the election, in a blatant effort to regain imperial control, but the he really won the election!"

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 9:05 AM

FLETCH2

Well he's an idiot.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:16 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Of course, Mugabe won the election. That’s what you do when you’re an autocratic ruler - its in your job title. All they’re doing now is trying to figure out how to explain this to a population that thought they voted for someone.
Isn't it obvious?

"President Mugabe has ascertained that the British rigged the election, in a blatant effort to regain imperial control, but the he really won the election!"

That parts true. The British did rig the election.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:47 AM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
That parts true. The British did rig the election.

The British, the best fall guys for your own incompetence, just ask Generals Petraeus and Odierno...

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Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:44 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

So the recount is mostly complete and the MDC and independent parties still have a majority in the House of Assembly. Will Mugabe give it up, take his Swiss bank accounts, and retire to somewhere with no extradition - or will he fight to stay in power?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, April 28, 2008 5:13 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

Geez,

I think Mugabe values power more than money. But whether he is willing to let go or not, a lot of his henchman are reluctant to reliquish power because they are afraid of reprisals. I get the impression that Mugabe is no longer in complete control and his generals and party leaders will continue to fight as they see it's necessary for their survival.

We can hope that they fail and some sort of order is restored to a place that should be a breadbasket and not the famine stricken place it's become under Mugabe's vengeful policies.

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Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:08 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Vet,

Mugabe's power jones is what I'm afraid of - that he'd take it all down with him rather of take the money and run.

The UN Ambassador to Zimbabwe is talking about a "government of national unity", which will keep Mugabe in the process until he can figure out how to steal it back.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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