Why George Bush is a great man & a very good President by chrisisall

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Why George Bush is a great man & a very good President

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Thursday, June 12, 2008 16:56
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Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
And...the imbecilic post-of-the-day Award goes to...
BDN!!!!

You sure it's not your own?

ETA
Can you spot the difference Mr. Isall?

Scenario 1

Person 1: I dislike Bush and the policies of his government.

Person 2: Terrorist lover.

Scenario 2

Person 1: I like Bush and the policies of his government

Person 2: Jack-booted Nazi.

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:28 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:

Can you spot the difference Mr. Isall?

Hey dumass (I mean that in the nicest way

), NO ONE EVER says you Bush-worshipers don't love your country. You merely whine like that to ride my witty coat tails...so get off 'em already, OK?

Now I gotta clean off the dirtisall

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:30 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

And you know all this about Rev. Wright, HOW, exactly? From the twenty seconds of him that you saw on the news, ON TV?

And the OOOoooo, you-nailed-him-today Award goes to...
KWICKO!!!!!

Chrisisall

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:42 PM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Can you spot the difference Mr. Isall?

I love these games!

Quote:
Scenario 1

Person 1: I dislike Bush and the policies of his government.

Person 2: Terrorist lover.

So what are the differences:

Quote:
Scenario 2

Person 1: I like Bush and the policies of his government

Person 2: Jack-booted Nazi.

The pub I worked at years ago had a machine where you could win £20 for spot the difference, what do I get here?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:47 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Hey dumass (I mean that in the nicest way), NO ONE EVER says you Bush-worshipers don't love your country. You merely whine like that to ride my witty coat tails...so get off 'em already, OK?

Right, because someone saying you do not love your country is ten times worse than being compared to a genocidal Nazi.

Besides, if I were to make the following statement;
"Chrisisall does not love his country"
Does that somehow make it true?

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:16 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
if I were to make the following statement;
"Chrisisall does not love his country"
Does that somehow make it true?

if I were to make the following statement; "BDN is a genocidal Nazi"
Does that somehow make it true?

It's not that it actually offends me, it's just that it's an easy shot that gets old fast. And it makes me sad that it's what peeps always fall back on instead of a good argument; I want to fight, not slaughter here

isall

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:29 PM

KIRKULES

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
80 percent of Americans now think the country is on the wrong path, and nearly that many think Bush is doing a poor job -

While what you say is true, it is not as clear cut as you would make it. The numbers you site are from two totally different types of polls. The 80% number is from a right track wrong track poll, while the other is an approval rating poll. In the approval poll people simply rate the performance of the individual with nothing for context or comparison. Obviously some will blame whoever is in the Presidency for an economic down turn, and the other 40% are democrats doing what you would expect in an election year. If you look more closely at the poll that the 80% number comes from you will see that only a small percentage of people think the President is responsible for the US being on the wrong track. Most blame government in general, personal behavior and declining moral values. This poll says a lot more about where the country is going as a society and has little to do with the President. I'm as guilty as anyone of misusing poll numbers, but Bush is more of a victim of events than most Presidents have been, and his poll numbers reflect it.

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:35 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
"BDN is a genocidal Nazi"
Does that somehow make it true?

Wow, didn't see that coming.

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
It's not that it actually offends me, it's just that it's an easy shot that gets old fast. And it makes me sad that it's what peeps always fall back on instead of a good argument; I want to fight, not slaughter here.

Inneedofamorebalancedperspectiveisall.

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:40 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
The pub I worked at years ago had a machine where you could win £20 for spot the difference, what do I get here?

Alas, you must sate yourself on that fleeting warm, fuzzy, feeling derived from your perceived cleverness.

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:42 PM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Alas, you must sate yourself on that fleeting warm, fuzzy, feeling derived from your perceived cleverness.

You are such a terrorist.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:46 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Bush is more of a victim of events than most Presidents have been

WHAT????
Shirley, you jest!
He had the chance to unite the world after 911, to get help from friends to go after those responsible- to cement alliances- instead he chose to finish what his daddy started with Saddam & prove himself, driving our economy into the ground, while partially thrashing our Constitution & making his friends richer ...that is being a victim HOW????

Jeezeisall

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:28 PM

KIRKULES

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Bush is more of a victim of events than most Presidents have been

WHAT????
Shirley, you jest!
He had the chance to unite the world after 911, to get help from friends to go after those responsible- to cement alliances- instead he chose to finish what his daddy started with Saddam & prove himself, driving our economy into the ground, while partially thrashing our Constitution & making his friends richer ...that is being a victim HOW????

Jeezeisall

You might remember that even before 911 Bush inherited a recession from the Clinton administration and the aftermath of the .com bubble. Then pile on 911, hurricane Katrina, increasing worldwide oil demand, and the housing bubble. Not a lot of Presidents have had to deal with as much adversity as Bush. You're right that the war in Iraq is all on him, but that is only one of many things adding to his poor poll numbers. The housing bubble is partially due to his good intentioned program to encourage home ownership, but it was the Fed's loose monetary policy that exacerbated the problem. You might also remember Bush's attempt at forming an energy policy for the US that was demonised and shot down but the democrats. You can thank the Dems for the high gas prices that are also contributing to Bush's poll numbers. The argument that the war has hurt our economy doesn't hold water either. The percentage of GDP we currently spend on the military is much less than the average for the last 50 years.

And also, don'tcallmeshirleyisall.

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:02 PM

CHRISISALL

Allright Kirk, there was a lot he inherited for sure. But he could still have come out the hero of sorts if he had just managed this "War on Terror" a little better, and not felt that it was a guilt-edged priority to "clean up the Middle East". He wanted glory, and that is the domain of the Almighty hisself, not a man that endorses we sink to torture as an officially sanctioned method of dealing with specially designated & dehumanized enemy combatants.

He's a tool. And NOT one of God's, if you get my drift.

*cue Heaveanly chorus*Chrisisall

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:28 PM

ALLIETHORN7

Man, these threads never cease to get me to chuckle. Just one thing, though...
Finn (If you still fequent these parts); why all the references to us comparing Bush to a comic book superhero? I've yet to read one. After all- isn't it fair to say that he should have done something other then sit on his ass in Florida?

-Danny

Late night, Brakes lock,
Hear the tires squeal,
Red light, can't stop, so I spin the wheel,
My world goes Black before I
Feel an Angel lift me up,
And I open Bloodshot eyes,
Into fluorescent White,
Flip the Siren, Hit the Lights,
Close the doors and I am Gone
The Band of the week is... Thrice

Gott weiß ich will kein Engel sein.
http://www.myspace.com/otherrandomdude

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:36 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"You might remember that even before 911 Bush inherited a recession from the Clinton administration and the aftermath of the .com bubble." And here we have a classic example of confusing cause with effect. The dot com bubble burst had very little effect on the DOW. Don't believe me ? See the chart: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DJIA_historical_graph.svg You'll notice that 2001 was slightly below 2000, but not by much. And that recession you speak of ? Was that 2001 ? Or 2002 - 2003 ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_2000s_recession

"Then pile on 911 ..." You'll see the Dow had nearly completely recovered from September 11 by the end of the year. That big divot you see - that happened months later. Why is that ?

"... hurricane Katrina ..." And hurricane Katrina - didn't happen till 2005.

"... increasing worldwide oil demand ... You can thank the Dems for the high gas prices that are also contributing to Bush's poll numbers." And the amazing shrinking dollar ! Between 2001 and May 8 2008 sweet light crude rose from 25 USD/bbl to 124 USD/bbl. But it only went from 25 Euros/bbl to 80 Euros/bbl. That fact is due to the pathetic dollar (and Bush).
(On May 8 2008 oil sold for 124 USD/bbl, but only 80 Euro/bbl. And if you look on p1 http://www.peakoil.nl/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/oilwatch_monthly_july
_2007.pdf you'll see oil went from 25 Euros/bbl in 2001 to 50 Euros/bbl in mid 2007, while it went from 25 USD/bbl to 70 USD over the same period.)

" ... and the housing bubble ..."Really. How about this - it was the only thing keeping the economy afloat and Bush had no other plans.

"The argument that the war has hurt our economy doesn't hold water either. The percentage of GDP we currently spend on the military is much less than the average for the last 50 years." But only the part that's actually counted in the budget. The Iraq war doesn't make it there. It gets funded through the emergency spending bill which gets funded through - borrowing ! Total cost so far - over half a trillion dollars. So yeah, that goes on him too.

Yep, Bush sure has had his share of problems - but as you can see, ones that are mostly caused by the fact that he's an evil nincompoop

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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I'm as guilty as anyone of misusing poll numbers, but Bush is more of a victim of events than most Presidents have been, and his poll numbers reflect it.

Sure, we all use the poll numbers to reinforce our positions, and we tend t cherry-pick them to find the numbers best suited for that purpose. And when I say "all", I mean that the Administration does it as well.

As for Bush being a victim of events, I call BS. We're ALL "victims of events" - even the guy on death row for murdering his family. If you skew your vision just right, you can kind of almost make out how he's just a victim of events, even if they were events caused or exacerbated by his own actions.

And being a "victim of events" still hasn't been enough to make the Righties back off their howling about Carter's Presidency, has it? Nope - when his time in office comes up for discussion, all we hear about is double-digit inflation, low national morale, joblessness, recession, terrorism in the Mid-East, and the country just generally being in the shitter... Most if not all of that was stuff that he didn't do (remember, the President doesn't have nearly the impact that we tend to think he does, right? I mean, he's no superhero, right, Finn?), but rather inherited from a corrupted Nixon Administration and an ineffective Ford Administration.

I just find it ironic that we tend to want to give Bush a pass on things, when we still find it impossible not to give Carter the same pass.

One thing I'm willing to bet money on, right here, right now:

Bush ain't going to win any Nobel Peace Prize. Not now. Not ever.

Any takers?

PS: It's been noted that much of the problem Bush "inherited" was from the Clinton Administration. Wouldn't that make Clinton a "victim of events" as well? Or do those rules not apply when bad things happen if a Democrat is in office?

PSS: And I note for the record that when the economy was running hot and things were looking rosy, not one single voice from the right said, "Bush isn't really responsible for any of these good things that are happening right now; he's a victim of events, not a cause of them." And when Reagan gets credited for ending the Cold War and defeating the Russians, no one notes that it was something that was going to happen anyway, and he just happened to be sitting in that chair when the music ended...

I'm just sayin' is all...

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:11 PM

KWICKO

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Yep, Bush sure has had his share of problems - but as you can see, ones that are mostly caused by the fact that he's an evil nincompoop.

I'm not sure those two things quite go together - evil and nincompoop.

I'm more of the opinion that the nincompoop part of Bush tends to outweigh any evil part of him, but that he's also easily led and manipulated by others who may indeed have evil plans in mind. Bush's biggest problem, in my view, is that he's never once stopped to analyze issues from a longer view, or with any kind of parallax. In other words, he's never had anyone to act as his Department of "...And Then What?" - people who would take a somewhat skeptical look at issues, and role-play the worst-case scenarios to see what going down that road might lead to. He tends to respond more to cheerleaders within his Inner Circle, and surround himself with them, which is telling, given his history as a male cheerleader and coke-addled drunken frat boy.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:31 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

If Bush had a shred of humanity he would not go along with the things he's gone along with. And he just keeps on doing more of the same.

***************************************************************
"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

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Friday, May 16, 2008 3:06 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Bush.... beer.......

.......nothin'.....

Oh well....

I was drunk when I wrote it and I'm half drunk now and it's still funny as hell to me.

I am(have) an audience of one.

Be all that you can be! In the Fledgling Comedians Who Hate Their Daytime Jobs.... reserve.

(The Fledgling Comedians Who Hate Their Daytime Jobs, also known as FCWHTDJ, pronounced Fuu Kwwwhhhhit Deeeja, can be found at mymomthinksimfunny.com)

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, May 16, 2008 4:09 AM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bush.... beer.......

.......nothin'.....

Oh well....

I was drunk when I wrote it and I'm half drunk now and it's still funny as hell to me.

I am(have) an audience of one.

Be all that you can be! In the Fledgling Comedians Who Hate Their Daytime Jobs.... reserve.

(The Fledgling Comedians Who Hate Their Daytime Jobs, also known as FCWHTDJ, pronounced Fuu Kwwwhhhhit Deeeja, can be found at mymomthinksimfunny.com)
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

Count me in. :)

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Friday, May 16, 2008 4:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

That's two.....

Three's Company...

and Four is a crappy spin off

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, May 16, 2008 5:18 AM

ALLIETHORN7

Quote:
If Bush had a shred of humanity he would not go along with the things he's gone along with. And he just keeps on doing more of the same.

***************************************************************
"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

It's not that Bush doesn't have humanity- he does- it's just that he's not suited to be a president of anything. Let alone our country.

-Danny

Late night, Brakes lock,
Hear the tires squeal,
Red light, can't stop, so I spin the wheel,
My world goes Black before I
Feel an Angel lift me up,
And I open Bloodshot eyes,
Into fluorescent White,
Flip the Siren, Hit the Lights,
Close the doors and I am Gone
The Band of the week is... Thrice

Gott weiß ich will kein Engel sein.
http://www.myspace.com/otherrandomdude

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Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:06 PM

ELVISCHRIST

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Please don't say that the attacks would have never happened in the first place if Bush was doing his job. That is not the point. You dislike Bush because of his actions on 9/11 and that is what is presently being discussed.

Well that's just plain wrong. I disliked Bush long before 9/11.

EC

"I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat-" - King Crimson, Indiscipline

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Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:20 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

Well that's just plain wrong. I disliked Bush long before 9/11.

Me too, and then I actually LIKED him briefly when he got us kickin' Taliban ass in Afghanistan...but then came the Iraq do-over with the lies about WMD and the non-connection to 911....

Brief Shrub fanisall

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Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:31 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Bush's nickname for Dick Cheney is "Tater"

35 Articles of Impeachment filed in Congress against George W Bush this week. It took Rep Dennis Kucinich 5 hours to read the entire indictment:

http://cspanjunkie.org/?p=158
http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=93581
http://www.infowars.com/?p=2654

Bush ancestor Thomas Percy's head is still on a stick in British Parliament in 2006

V FOR VENDETTA FOR REAL: Bush family's terrorism in Gunpowder Plot to bomb British Parliament

www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_publications_and_archives/parliamentar
y_archives/gunpowder_plot_400_pow.cfm

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Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:56 PM

KWICKO

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It took Rep Dennis Kucinich 5 hours to read the entire indictment.

Can you imagine how long it would have taken if Bush were reading it? Say... that's not a bad idea... he'll be long out of office before he can ever finish reading the charges!

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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