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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 8:59 PM

SIGNYM

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Rather than having hundreds of threads about the disasters that neocons/deep state have caused (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, N Korea etc etc) I've decided to just compile them all into one general thread as they come up.



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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 10:48 PM

SIGNYM

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AFGHANISTAN



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Saturday, July 10, 2021 5:17 PM

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TURKEY



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Saturday, July 10, 2021 5:27 PM

SIGNYM

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AFGHANISTAN, again

Quote:

US left Bagram Airbase at night with no notice, Afghan commander says

https://news.yahoo.com/us-left-bagram-airbase-night-081153606.html

Quote:

One Afghan soldier by the name of Naematullah told the AP the Americans had “lost all the good will of 20 years by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area.” Switching off the lights suddenly was “like a signal to the looters,” Raouf agreed

]
https://visionnewspapers.com/20-years-not-even-a-note-us-left-bagram-a
ir-base-in-middle-of-the-night-without-telling-new-afghan-commander-reports
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Sunday, July 11, 2021 4:41 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


the NeoCon legacy lingers on, there still is Iraq but Troops will be moved out and away from Asscrackistan
Donald Rumsfeld before his adventures in Afghanistan and looking for WMDs in Iraq, hung out with Tricky Dick, he was close with that other puppet who wore the Masonic Shriner islamic Fez hat, the guy with a wife who had been around the block a few times and promoted aboritions and illegal drug use, the puppet President know as 'Gerald Ford'.
Bushisms were know for their disasters, little Bush would get confused and say the wrong stuff and often send the stock market into a panic...but Rumself he was a different type, intelligent and convoluted and morally twisted
“There are known knowns, things we know that we know; and there are known unknowns, things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns, things we do not know we don't know.”
? Donald Rumsfeld,

The Democrats would promise something different no more wars and Bahía de Guantánamo would be closed. From Obama we got a different new legacy, different banker bailouts that was the 'Change', drone Libya to death and guns run to ISIS in Syria, Libya rebels, Arab Springs almost becoming Nuclear winters, Gaddafi while he was a 'dictator' he could have been right about islamists, the wars in N.Africa and al-Qaeda?
The NeoCon Donald Rumsfeld is finally dead with McCain

It's all a very similar club, although Neocons are probably far worse war mongers than Democrats, the conspiracy says most of these guys these old creeps and odd women are owned, they are owned by blackmailers, war mongers and other brankers, people at other places most will name places like Chatham House, London, the Harold Pratt House in NY, the Trilaterial Commision, in the younger days in College and Uni they get blackmailed at parties to odd ritual stuff like 'Skull and Bones' there are names like Dicky Cheney, Hillary Clinton, Rockefeller, Kissinger, Mae Podesta daughter of John Podesta, Wolfowitz all names in this club, you have Bilberberg, the old secret elite castles of Rome and Babylon Arabia and Jerusalem and Europe, the CFR.

Soldiers told to pull out without much warning or notice other US Troops Flee in Afghan land back to another foreign base in Dead of Night.
Saudis got those 28 Pages censored, so what was it all for?

Bush and BigTech spying?
from another froum
Quote:

I'll never forget Rumsfeld saying, in beating the drum for an invasion of Iraq,
https://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/threads/donald-rumsfeld-dead-at-
88.506613/page-2

"He has weapons of mass destruction and we know where they are."



more

Quote:


I remember warning my conservative friends and family circa 2002
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/i-remember-warning-my-con
servative-friends-and-family-circa-2002/97081401
/
That the surveillance state the warmongering Neocons Bush/Cheney were setting up would eventually be turned on conservatives.

They sneered and snickered at me “you sound like a liberal! What are you one them conspiracy theorists? That’s just to catch them goat herders”



Hillary and France, Obama, NATO after Bush help deliver the Syria madness?
Russia may take the influence in Syria?
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/the-attack-on-syria.631319/page
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Quote:


Rumsfeld died ...
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/donald-rumsfeld-died.7084
477
/
Never met a war he didnt love.



The Patriot Act used against now used on Patriotic America???

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 8:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:



I don't even want to know how many mice are sleeping with this dude every night... because dude has mice.

Ask me how I know.

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 9:17 AM

SIGNYM

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Bolton, in his eulogy to Rumsfeld,supposedly said (that Rumselfed said)

"The goal is not democracy, the goal is chaos"

I haven't been able to find that quote anywhere. In fact, I can't find John Bolton's eulogy to Donald Rumsfeld ANYwhere. It's like there's a blank spot in the news where reporting should be.

But, be that as it may ... if Bolton really said that. If Rumsfeldreally said that.

Then FINALLY, refreshing honesty from the warmongers. None of that nauseating bullshit about "freedom" and "democracy".

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 9:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Good luck finding it. I'm not coming up with anything.

Where did you hear that?

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 9:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


https://archive.ph/3jd13 (Archived NYT Opinion piece)

Quote:

Donald Rumsfeld Tore My Country Apart

By Rasha Al Aqeedi
Ms. Al Aqeedi, a commentator on Middle Eastern geopolitics and contemporary Iraqi politics and society, is the head of the Nonstate Actors program at the Newlines Institute.




This is your legacy, you warmongering NeoCon piece of shit.

Burn in hell.

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 9:32 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Maybe this ...

City, University of London Institutional Repository
The goal is not democracy, it is instead serving its own economic interests and stability. (Robinson)
https://openaccess.city.ac.uk/id/eprint/23278/1/Nouri%2C%20Bamo.pdf



Other than that, searching with Gibiru under +Rumsfeld eulogy got me this "Now that's some strange stuff. We got nothin. Perhaps try something a bit less esoteric." Apparently nobody eulogized him. Sure. And I have a few bridges to sell.

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 9:48 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Maybe this ...

City, University of London Institutional Repository
The goal is not democracy, it is instead serving its own economic interests and stability. (Robinson)
https://openaccess.city.ac.uk/id/eprint/23278/1/Nouri%2C%20Bamo.pdf



The word "Chaos" is used 24 times in 328 pages.


Quote:

Other than that, searching with Gibiru under +Rumsfeld eulogy got me this "Now that's some strange stuff. We got nothin. Perhaps try something a bit less esoteric." Apparently nobody eulogized him. Sure. And I have a few bridges to sell.



C'mon... There were no cameras there. Can't have any live footage the blood orgy after Hillary Clinton and Obama ate both ends of the baby like Lady and the Tramp eating spaghetti over Donnie's casket while GWB was jerkin one out on Bolton's mushroom-cloud mustache in the corner.



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Sunday, July 11, 2021 9:57 AM

SIGNYM

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That vision of Rumsfeld's funeral was just ... eeeww. But no worse than the man himself.

Too bad there are many more like him still warming chairs in the Administration (ANY administration) and on CNN/MSNBC etc.

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 10:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That vision of Rumsfeld's funeral was just ... eeeww. But no worse than the man himself.



If Frem were here, he'd accuse me of taking it too easy on them.

The point still stands though. There's no way we're ever seeing footage of that funeral.

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Too bad there are many more like him still warming chairs in the Administration (ANY administration) and on CNN/MSNBC etc.



Gorram Lizard People.



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Saturday, July 24, 2021 9:10 AM

SIGNYM

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NORDSTREAM2

Quote:

Nord Stream 2 ‘Deal’ Is Not an American Concession, It’s Admission of Defeat
July 23, 2021

All in all, Washington’s virtue-signaling is one helluva gas!

After much arm-twisting, bullying and foghorn diplomacy towards its European allies, the United States appears to have finally given up on trying to block the giant Nord Stream 2 project with Russia. What an epic saga it has been, revealing much about American relations with Europe and Washington’s geopolitical objectives, as well as, ultimately, the historic decline in U.S. global power.



MORE AT https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/07/23/nord-stream-2-deal-n
ot-american-concession-its-admission-of-defeat
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Sunday, July 25, 2021 2:09 PM

SIGNYM

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SOUTH CHINA SEA (not happened yet. A preditction).

Quote:

Visualizing Asia's Slide Into A Dangerous New Ballistic Missile Race
Saturday, Jul 24, 2021 - 11:00 PM

The last couple years of military build-up and standoff between China and the United States in the South China Sea has resulted in fears of a new dangerous arms race, as smaller nations in the region rapidly bolster their defenses in order to avoid being "caught in the middle" which would result in having to be overly dependent on one side of the tensions.

A new Reuters report chronicling the growth in regional missile stockpiles says China is "mass producing its DF-26, a multipurpose weapon with a range of up to 4,000 kilometres, while the United States is developing new weapons aimed at countering Beijing in the Pacific."

This has resulted in other countries once on the sidelines now "buying or developing their own new missiles, driven by security concerns over China and a desire to reduce their reliance on the United States" - the report underscores.

"Before the decade is out, Asia will be bristling with conventional missiles that fly farther and faster, hit harder, and are more sophisticated than ever before - a stark and dangerous change from recent years, analysts, diplomats, and military officials say," the report adds.

The below map and infograph from Reuters visualizes the emerging 'Asia-Pacific missile race'...




From the report, here's a list of who has the growing arsenals and their reach in the region...

US Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) plans to deploy its new long-range weapons in "highly survivable, precision-strike networks along the First Island Chain," which includes Japan, Taiwan, and other Pacific islands ringing the east coasts of China and Russia.
Japan, home to more than 54,000 U.S. troops, could host some of the new missile batteries on its Okinawan islands, but the United States would probably have to withdraw other forces... Japan has spent millions on long range air-launched weapons, and is developing a new version of a truck-mounted anti-ship missile, the Type 12, with an expected range of 1,000 kilometres.
Australia recently announced it would spend $100 billion over 20 years developing advanced missiles.
South Korea fields the most robust domestic ballistic missile program, which got a boost from a recent agreement with Washington to drop bilateral limits on its capabilities. Its Hyunmoo-4 has an 800-kilometre range, giving it a reach well inside China.
North Korea recently tested what appeared to be an improved version of its proven KN-23 missile with a 2.5-ton warhead that analysts say is aimed at besting the 2-ton warhead on the Hyunmoo-4.
Taiwan has not publicly announced a ballistic missile programme, but in December the U.S. State Department approved its request to buy dozens of American short-range ballistic missiles. Officials say Taipei is mass producing weapons and developing cruise missiles such as the Yun Feng, which could strike as far as Beijing.

David Santoro, president of the Pacific Forum, was cited in the report as forecasting that "missile proliferation will fuel suspicions, trigger arms races, increase tensions, and ultimately cause crises and even wars."



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