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It's Palin

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
I suppoose they say some things that upset you, and you feel compelled to ignore it, but you can't. So just go piss up a rope.

Actually your posts say things that make me feel sorry for you.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:33 PM

RIVERLOVE

Whatever, you're a liar.

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:12 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

ROFLMAO!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:27 PM

RIVERLOVE

Wish I could see that, a big cow on the floor is funny. Stay there on the floor where you belong.

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:34 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Why do I suspect that you don't see McCain as having problems because he's a Republican?

Haven't seen anything substantive that would make me believe McCain is 'irrational', as SignyM trys to portray him. He cusses and has a temper. Ooooh. The fact that he's been able to amass quite a fortune, become a senior Senator, and be nominated to run for President argues against any suggestion that he can't handle pressure or is incapable.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:37 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
Wish I could see that, a big cow on the floor is funny. Stay there on the floor where you belong.

Oh River...do you need a hug?

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:39 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
But I HAVE seen that problem with McCain, as when he called his wife a c*nt in front of a news conference. He is well-known for his temper and his gambling.

Yet he keeps getting re-elected. The 'cu*t' incident was 16 years ago. If it was such a big deal, you'd think his constituents would have voted him out.

And of course you've never lost your temper, so you can cast the first stone.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

McCain:

"Bomb, bomb, bomb,
Bomb bomb Iran..."

and more...

Also, his gambling?

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:17 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Whoa River...

I guess I need to stop telling people to lay off of you. Your vitriol potential is fully realized.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:07 AM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
She's a REAL American, loves the outdoors, member of the NRA, married her HS sweetheart.

Being a diverse immigrant nation, I wouldn't have thought it would have been so easy to say what a "real" American is...

Wasn't "I don't know what the Vice President does" one of her quotes? Real good pick there! Does she know what Congress does?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:58 AM

KIRKULES

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Wasn't "I don't know what the Vice President does" one of her quotes? Real good pick there! Does she know what Congress does?

Nobody knows what the Vice President does. Other than presiding over the Senate, the Vice Pres. has no Constitutionally defined role. Each VP decides for themselves what role they want to play and hope the Pres. will let them do something constructive. Traditionally the VP's role has been limited to sitting around waiting for the Pres. to kick the bucket, but in recent years they have been in the puppet master role, running the shadow government from a secret bunker location.

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:15 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
McCain:

"Bomb, bomb, bomb,
Bomb bomb Iran..."

and more...

A Youtube clip segment is your argument?

In this day of 24/7 video, you could compile a similar bunch of clips on anyone who is in the public eye. Big deal.

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Also, his gambling?

McCain's got lots of money, he gambles a few thousand a trip. He plays with the money he brings and doesn't take house markers. He's not losing the house payment or the kid's college money.

Saw some stuff about him not showing winnings or losses on his tax forms or getting any W2Gs. Whoever wrote that doesn't know much tax law. In table games like craps, you net your winnings against your wagers and report any net profit for the year. Most folks don't win, so have nothing to report. You can only claim the losses if you're a professional gambler. Also, W2Gs aren't generally issued for table games, only slots, video poker, etc.

Again, big deal.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:05 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Whoa River...

I guess I need to stop telling people to lay off of you. Your vitriol potential is fully realized.

And how would you classify FMF's posts? Those of a master debater or a cunning linguist?

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Geezer, it's what I could find to stop people from saying "But you have no proof". Just google McCain + temper

Quote:
... the Arizona Republic, which endorsed McCain for each of his five congressional races but has not yet made an endorsement in the presidential race, was direct. It declared in an editorial: "If McCain is truly a serious contender for the presidency, it is time the rest of the nation learned about the John McCain we know in Arizona. There is also reason to seriously question whether he has the temperament, and the political approach and skills, we want in the next president of the United States."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991031/aponline183823_
000.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/19/AR2008
041902224.html
http://blog.case.edu/conservativemovement/2008/01/29/john_mccains_top_
ten_temper_explosions

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.htm
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I think this guy's first reactions are not necessarily the best reactions. I believe that he acts on impulse."- Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton
http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/04/01/mccain_admit
s_temper_problem

... his temper, legendary among some former and current colleagues in the US Senate. http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/03/dole
_mccain_has.html

There's too much "out there" to say that McCain DOESN'T have a temper. And when you're running for President, you don't joke about bombing Iran. What a flippin' boneheaded thing to say! What's his excuse? He thought it was "cute"?!?

AFA the gambling is concerned, it's not the reporting (or lack of) his winnings and losses. It's the motivation behind it... described even by his friends as the rush of adrenaline. Not too many posts ago, you mentioned... negatively... JFK's hidden health issue. The hidden health issue was that he was taking a corticosteroid... lots of it... to stop his back pain, which may have accounted for his puffy face and unusual bronze skintone.

Now, the relevant downside of corticosteroids is irritability/ hostility. At the same time, some people feel on top of the world. If temper/ temperment concerns you when it applies to Democrats... and it seems to... then why would it not be a concern with Republicans? Do we want another Kennedy, or another Tricky Dick in the WH?

Setting aside McCain's temper ... which truly concerns me... there are his policies, which repel me.

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

BTW, in the interest of objectivity I also googled kerry + temper.

And the only stories I pulled up were about... McCain!!!

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Michael Palin was great in Brazil...

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:18 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Wow. You saw that movie? There a parts of it I wish I could forget.

"I had a complication of my complication", and the power-drill.

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:35 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Geezer, it's what I could find to stop people from saying "But you have no proof". Just google McCain + temper... There's too much "out there" to say that McCain DOESN'T have a temper.

Now try Obama + temper.

"Obama supporters say that Obama had stepped away from his seat and asked someone else to vote for him, not an uncommon practice considering the thousands of votes each session. His proxy, however, accidentally voted against his wishes. When Obama asked that the record reflect that he voted the wrong way, Hendon publicly accused Obama of duplicity. Hendon has never been shy about holding back his feelings, and he had a special way of penetrating Obama’s usually smooth exterior. Soon, the two men were shouting at each other on the senate floor. They took their disagreement into a nearby room, and a witness said that Obama had to be physically restrained."
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MWFmNTcxMjI4NzlhZWQ5NTk
1OTRkMDlmOTY4M2RkN2I=

"It's not quite eight in the morning and Barack Obama is on the phone screaming at me. He liked the story I wrote about him a couple weeks ago, but not this garbage.

Months earlier, a reporter friend told me she overheard Obama call me an asshole at a political fund-raiser. Now here he is blasting me from hundreds of miles away for a story that just went online but hasn't yet hit local newsstands."

http://www.houston-press.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-
me/full

Quote:
AFA the gambling is concerned, it's not the reporting (or lack of) his winnings and losses. It's the motivation behind it... described even by his friends as the rush of adrenaline.

Ever play craps at a casino? It does provide a rush, and is a communal experience among all the players at the table. It's all of you as a group against the house, and emotions go from high to low and back in a few seconds. Everyone cheers a point made or groans if you crap out. Not sure why you'd consider this a bad thing.

Obama, on the other hand, plays poker. Poker is a game of deceit, where you try to bluff and fool your opponents. It's every man for himself, trying to defeat all the other players.

Quote:
Setting aside McCain's temper ... which truly concerns me... there are his policies, which repel me.

Then maybe you should quit the petty personal attacks, and talk about the issues.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:22 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:

Obama, on the other hand, plays poker. Poker is a game of deceit, where you try to bluff and fool your opponents. It's every man for himself, trying to defeat all the other players.

Getting a bit off the subject, perhaps, but I wanted to interject...

You should note that several states have legal poker parlors, because in the words of those states, Poker is considered a game of SKILL, not a game of chance (hence, not technically "gambling").

It's a gross misrepresentation to characterize poker solely as a "game of deceit, where you try to bluff and fool your opponents". Yes, there ARE bluffs involved, but if you don't have the skills to play the game, you are an easy mark and your money will be gone quite quickly. A truly gifted poker player can tell you, with a remarkable degree of accuracy, what you're thinking, what you're likely to do, and even what cards you're holding - often even down to what suit your cards are.

Can a gifted craps player tell you what you're going to roll?

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 1:37 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
It's a gross misrepresentation to characterize poker solely as a "game of deceit, where you try to bluff and fool your opponents".

I know. I was just mocking SignyM's 'gambling shows you're irrational' suggestion by tarring Obama with the same brush. I don't really care what form of recreation they choose, and it's not near as important as their platforms.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Then maybe you should quit the petty personal attacks, and talk about the issues.

I suppose I will, when people stop the petty adulation that McCain's status as a war victim (POW) somehow makes him Presidential material. It was a pretty much tit-for-tat point I was making.

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:58 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
I suppose I will, when people stop the petty adulation that McCain's status as a war victim (POW) somehow makes him Presidential material. It was a pretty much tit-for-tat point I was making.

First mention of McCain's war record in this thread was by Kwicko.

"Yes, for some... like those who call John McCane a "war hero" - but who denigrated John Kerry's service to his country and wore their precious little "purple heart band-aids" at the last Republican convention, and who supported the Swift-Boat bunch.

Yeah, it seems SOME people really do differentiate between which side of the aisle you sit on as to your "equality", whether it be equality of gender, equality of service, or equality of race.

Some people..."

Still not sure who this "John McCane" guy is, BTW.

If you have any evidence of folks in this thread stating that "...McCain's status as a war victim (POW) somehow makes him Presidential material.", rather than just responding to slurs and cheap shots like Kwicko's and yours (Signym - "And it's not as if Kerry went A.W.O.L. from some uber-kushy party post...", for example.), please cite it.

Again, you wanna discuss issues, fine. You wanna do character assassination, please don't.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:35 PM

KWICKO

Quote:

Again, you wanna discuss issues, fine. You wanna do character assassination, please don't.

Well, since you're the arbiter of all that is fair, maybe you could, just once, show a little fairness in the whole "character assassination" game of yours. You call out liberals and Democrats on it constantly, yet you never, but NEVER, call out any of the local Republicans when they do it, such as:

Quote:
She's a REAL American...

With the clear implication that maybe someone ELSE in the race ISN'T a "real" American?

and:

Quote:
Chicago corrupt, radical socialist Obama...

Where were you calling "foul" on such character assassins? Where were you calling for "cites, please" on any of these accusations? Where's you "fairness" when it comes to cleaning up your own house?

By the way, since I have to explain the "McCane" thing because you obviously can't figure it out - it's a pun. "Cane" because he's really, really, really old.

By the way, if you want to have a REAL talk about the issues, please feel free.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:50 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Signym - "And it's not as if Kerry went A.W.O.L. from some uber-kushy party post.

Keep your bile down and straighten out your eyes. That wasn't me.

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Signym - "And it's not as if Kerry went A.W.O.L. from some uber-kushy party post.

GEEZER: Keep your bile down and straighten out your eyes.

BTW- You really don't like it when you get what you and your ilk dish out, do you?

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:59 PM

PIRATECAT

WOW, didn't see that coming. McCain and Palin. I'm in. Saw a video of her shooting with the troops not a flinch. Now this will be fun the next few months. Football and politics. I've been on Vegas runs. So my pockets are burning. Oh about a 7 hour drive from Tucson. I'll try to keep up on the ff net man since July 4th its been go go go. Just register and vote. I vote conservative. But when I listen to folks especially youngens they don't have a clue on voting. I just sent my early ballot for the republican primary out. Its so easy. Just don't get it. I've always said it will be a conservative woman who makes prez. 2008 will be the lowest turnout and McCain wins by 2%. Later Gators PC

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Monday, September 1, 2008 2:58 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Keep your bile down and straighten out your eyes. That wasn't me.

True. It was WHODIED. The avatar fooled me.

Here's your slander.

"[Purely partisan snark]

Didn't see this myself, but I heard a half-dozen people point it out: McCain, while staring at Palin's *ss, kept twirling his wedding ring.

Hmm... I guess that lobbyist he's been boinking is on the way out!

[/Purely partisan snark]

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, September 1, 2008 3:29 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Well, since you're the arbiter of all that is fair, maybe you could, just once, show a little fairness in the whole "character assassination" game of yours. You call out liberals and Democrats on it constantly, yet you never, but NEVER, call out any of the local Republicans when they do it...Where were you calling "foul" on such character assassins? Where were you calling for "cites, please" on any of these accusations? Where's you "fairness" when it comes to cleaning up your own house?

I believe in proportionate response. The two quotes you show are about the only ones in this thread even slightly disparaging of the Dems, and the second is a phrase buried in a much longer discussion of the strategy behind choosing Gov. Palin. Compare and contrast with the repeated direct attacks on both Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain by yourself, SignyM, et al.

But, in the interest of fairness:

Riverlove, please be nice.

Quote:
By the way, since I have to explain the "McCane" thing because you obviously can't figure it out - it's a pun. "Cane" because he's really, really, really old.

Actually, it's just another way for you to insult Sen. McCain. I figured that out long ago.

Quote:
By the way, if you want to have a REAL talk about the issues, please feel free.

Okay, but in a new thread.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, September 1, 2008 8:41 AM

KIRKULES

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
But, in the interest of fairness:

Riverlove, please be nice.

I thought you just got done defending your proportionate response. Considering the the fact that Riverlove was attacked first and repeatedly, the response seemed appropriate to me.

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