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Monday, September 1, 2008 6:31 AM

WHOZIT


Sarah Palins 17 year old daughter is 5 months pregnant. Sources; www.drudgereport.com & www.reuters.com


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Monday, September 1, 2008 6:47 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Now that's some family values!

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Monday, September 1, 2008 8:17 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Yanno, I bit my tongue on this a while, but let's us get an understanding of my position on some stuff

Palin's daughter - none of my damn bizness.

Palin's pregnancies - none of my damn bizness.

Palin's non-political career - I couldn't care less.

The fact that she's female - So what ?

Why do folk focus on such inane shit when real issues are there to be had at ?


Also, the whole ball of whining about whether or not McSame or Obamalamadingdong are 'technically' american citizens, I sat and thought on that a while - and in the end I don't think it matters cause when you elect a Prez, they take an Oath to serve this country and it's Constitution first and foremost, and you'll find no shortage of american citizens who broke that trust in the past.

Yeesh, sometimes I wonder if folk argue for the sake of arguing.

-F

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Monday, September 1, 2008 8:18 AM

KIRKULES


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Now that's some family values!



Because this never happens to Democrats. Lucky for her, thanks to the Dem's she can still have an abortion if she wants. If we just required them all to wear burkas this kind of thing would never happen. To late for that now we'll just have to stone her. Oh look, Kwicko already threw the first stone.

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Monday, September 1, 2008 8:34 AM

PARTICIPANT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkules:
Lucky for her, thanks to the Dem's she can still have an abortion if she wants.



Actually your buddies at FoxSnooze have repeatedly said Palin was "Pro-Abortion". Guess Fox didn't think she was Bush-enough to be in the whitehouse

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Monday, September 1, 2008 10:21 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


She's a ho just like mama. Which is why McCain "picked" her.

Shotgun wedding in the White House?

Quote:

The Palins apparently felt compelled to issue the statement on Monday after liberal blogs claimed that Gov. Sarah Palin had faked her own recent pregnancy to cover for her daughter Bristol, who -- the blogs said -- was the real mother of Trig Palin [born 5 months ago with Downs Syndrome].

www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=34934



That's why Ted Bundy went psycho, when his grandmother claimed to be his mother, and his sister turned out to be his mom. So he killed dozens of women, buried them, then dug them up to have sex with their rotting corpses. Ted was a rising star in the Republican Party...

If you want real issues, Palin is the whore of British Petroleum Corp, which was given most of the oil in Alaska, for export to Communist China, Japan and Mexico, and pumps most of what's left back into the ground. This starves USA of oil and raised gas prices 400% in 4 years. Meanwhile oil costs 45-cents a gallon in Mexico, and 11-cents a gallon in South America and the Middle East.

Palin says Alaska can replace Middle East oil
www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=300668510518137



"Dirty dirty whore!"
-Capt Malcolm Reynolds

"Reavers - They MADE them!"
-Wash, Serenity

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Monday, September 1, 2008 10:32 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Because this never happens to Democrats. Lucky for her, thanks to the Dem's she can still have an abortion if she wants. If we just required them all to wear burkas this kind of thing would never happen. To late for that now we'll just have to stone her. Oh look, Kwicko already threw the first stone.



Yes, yes... we're all very aware that you would never, EVER stoop so low as to take a cheap shot at anyone.

Well, unless they were a Democrat.

I find it ironic, is all. Palin's supposedly pro-contraception; apparently, she's not quite vocal enough about it at home, though.

And yes, thanks to the Democrats, she COULD have had an abortion if she'd wanted to. Not that they'd FORCE her to get one.




Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Monday, September 1, 2008 3:36 PM

KIRKULES


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
She's a ho just like mama. Which is why McCain "picked" her.

Shotgun wedding in the White House?

Quote:

The Palins apparently felt compelled to issue the statement on Monday after liberal blogs claimed that Gov. Sarah Palin had faked her own recent pregnancy to cover for her daughter Bristol, who -- the blogs said -- was the real mother of Trig Palin [born 5 months ago with Downs Syndrome].

www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=34934



That's why Ted Bundy went psycho, when his grandmother claimed to be his mother, and his sister turned out to be his mom. So he killed dozens of women, buried them, then dug them up to have sex with their rotting corpses. Ted was a rising star in the Republican Party...

If you want real issues, Palin is the whore of British Petroleum Corp, which was given most of the oil in Alaska, for export to Communist China, Japan and Mexico, and pumps most of what's left back into the ground. This starves USA of oil and raised gas prices 400% in 4 years. Meanwhile oil costs 45-cents a gallon in Mexico, and 11-cents a gallon in South America and the Middle East.

Palin says Alaska can replace Middle East oil
www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=300668510518137



"Dirty dirty whore!"
-Capt Malcolm Reynolds

"Reavers - They MADE them!"
-Wash, Serenity


FU you psycho MF. I've been civil and respectful to you in the past but you've gone over the line. Please get psychiatric help before you hurt yourself or others. How you have not been committed to a mental institution is beyond me but I'm sure it has something to do with the fact that you're a Kennedy or British Royalty.

You just made another enemy, congrats jackass

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Monday, September 1, 2008 7:16 PM

PIRATECAT


There's alot of bastards in my family. I'm just glad the illegitimate ones turned out good. Even though the girls in my family spread their legs for proggies, jews, and mexicans (code for arab or black we don't know) thank god they raised them catholic. Sweet baby Jesus their is so many skeletons in my family every time I cough a bone comes out. Yes we are truly American. Xmas pics has the dog licken his beans under the tree. Thanksgiven with the old irish dad with his fly open and a thumbs up. But the grandkids made it through colledge and now serving in Iraq. So there it is. I'm sure somebody married a queer so deep in the closet he has found next year's presents. Just give me the whiskey and let me watch Carolina upset the Chargers. Just vote.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Monday, September 1, 2008 8:09 PM

SNOWCAT


Quote:

If you want real issues, Palin is the whore of British Petroleum Corp, which was given most of the oil in Alaska, for export to Communist China, Japan and Mexico, and pumps most of what's left back into the ground. This starves USA of oil and raised gas prices 400% in 4 years. Meanwhile oil costs 45-cents a gallon in Mexico, and 11-cents a gallon in South America and the Middle East.

Palin says Alaska can replace Middle East oil



I can't believe the ignorance of some people. I am from Alaska;a born and raised, and the above quote is pure rubbish. To clarify: BP sends their oil to China and Japan because the US refuses to buy it, they consider Alaskan oil foreign oil and would rather use oil from Texas and Louisianna. We don't pump anything back into the ground except water. Alaskan's pump the oil out of the ground, we have our own refineries but we still pay the highest amount for our own gas $4.34 per gallon still. BTW Alaska has the oil reserves but no one will let us drill it. Sarah Palin has no control over BP or who they sell their oil to, her husband works for them but in a very limited capacity. Sarah Palin has only been in the political scene for about 3 years, how can she be the whore that sells the oil to China when we've been selling it to them since the 1980's? For goodness sake.....grow a forebrain!

Now on to the subject at hand. At least the Palin's are coming forward with their skeletons and not trying to hide behind their political power, unlike Bill (I did not have sex with that woman) Clinton. The Palin's are a well respected family here in Alaska. I'm sorry to hear of this latest hurdle but at least they are standing behind their daughter and not attempting a cover up,they are trying to be as open and honest as possible. I doubt the press will be so kind with them.

Alaskan Men: The odd's are good,
but the goods are odd.

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Monday, September 1, 2008 11:49 PM

SIMONWHO


Yes, that lawyer she's hired to "assist" her with the case where she tried to get a cop fired is going to be very open and honest with everyone.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 2:30 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
Yes, that lawyer she's hired to "assist" her with the case where she tried to get a cop fired is going to be very open and honest with everyone.


I suspect given her record that she hired the lawyer to allow her to be open and honost with everyone without giving up her rights as a citizen and the executive of her state.

Sometimes situations like this require a delicate balancing act to make sure all the relevant material is disclosed properly. Making mistakes in response to an investigation is often the real trouble that politicians get into. Look at Libby and Clinton. Both paid penalties for mistakes in response to an investigation...not the failed ultimate goal of the investigation.

I suspect firing the guy she did was within her discretion. Legally it then becomes the other fella's burdon to prove it was for an improper reason.

H

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 6:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I wonder how many people who want to "lay off" the daughter because of "privacy" issues were the same ones who wanted to crucify Edwards and are now busy crucifying his wife?

The other thing that kept going thru my head... Supposedly, McCain slected Palin because of her "story", not necessarily because of her qualifications. Well, she isn't a 'story", she's a TV sitcom!

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 7:04 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Well, she isn't a 'story", she's a TV sitcom!



I was thinking the same thing... the whole political process is being reduced to fit the mold of a tv reality show - and sitcom is not far off.

So, given the inevitable, which would you rather see - Cindy, John and the Palins - with their brood (some grown beyond their years), not to mention Bristol's beau, Levi Johnston who posted the following on his MySpace page..."I'm a f - - -in' redneck" who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes.
"But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s- - - and just f - - -in' chillin' I guess."
"Ya f - - - with me I'll kick [your] ass," he added.
He also claims to be "in a relationship," but states, "I don't want kids."

nice kid...

Or, the Obama/Biden crew with those cute little girls and mature adult children..?

either way the next four years are up for grabs and i suspect that the most dysfunctional family wins.... it's just good for ratings...

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 7:12 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I wonder how many people who want to "lay off" the daughter because of "privacy" issues were the same ones who wanted to crucify Edwards and are now busy crucifying his wife?


Your comparing a man who cheated on his cancer-ridden wife and then lied about it while soliciting money and costing Hillary votes to the mother of a 17 year-old who is pregnant by her boyfriend and didn't hide it from anybody.

I'd call them apples and oranges...but its more like apples and something so unlike apples as to be silly to even think about it...apples and diet Pepsi commericials from the 1980's or apples and page 1,243 of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire or maybe apples and John Edwards' mansion's next door neighbor's lawnmower (not the current one, the one he had in 1982).

There is simply no comparison.

And a fair number of those wanting to make an issue of this girl's choices are the same folks who were fussing cause Edwards 'cost' Hillary the election. Republicans never really made a big deal outa Edwards...he was a non-issue to us by the time this broke. It was the same Democrats who have so little regard for the private affairs (pun...not intended) of anyone who is not bowing at their alters.

Leave the girl be says I.

H

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 7:34 AM

DEADLOCKVICTIM


Here's a quote from an email I received today. I have to admit that I was beginning to feel that McCains choice for VP might come back to bite him, but after reading the email I could only hang my head in agreement.

Quote:

But before everyone gets all smug and self-righteous about the Palin selection, remember where you live. You live in a nation of gun owners and hunters. You live in a country where one out of three girls get pregnant before they are 20. You live in a nation of C students. Knocking Bush for being a C student only endeared him to the nation of C students. Knock Palin for having kids, for having a kid who's having a baby, for anything that is part of her normalness -- a normalness that looks very familiar to so many millions of Americans -- well, you do this at your own peril. Assuming she's still on the ticket two weeks from now, she will be a much tougher opponent than anyone expects. You live in a country that voted for Dan Quayle.


there for a while i was hoping for a sane, rational and intelligent leader in the White House... but history keeps proving me wrong.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 7:52 AM

WHOZIT


The sad truth is, they're going to rip thru the daughter to get to the mother.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 8:02 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
The sad truth is, they're going to rip thru the daughter to get to the mother.


I think we'll find the Palin's are tougher nuts to crack then everybody thinks.


H

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 8:10 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"Your comparing a man who cheated on his cancer-ridden wife ..."

I know people are fond of repeating this, but it's not true. At the time Elizabeth Edwards was considered cancer-free and healthy.

And, you should hang your head and admit this as well - the right-wing pundits (are there any other kind ?) were going after Elizabeth Edwards - KNOWING she had incurable cancer, and even AFTER John Edwards was out of the race and it was no longer an issue - for keeping the affair secret.

Some family values you got there, bud.

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Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 8:17 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Your comparing a man who cheated on his cancer-ridden wife and then lied about it while soliciting money and costing Hillary votes to the mother of a 17 year-old who is pregnant by her boyfriend and didn't hide it from anybody.
I call it bullshit. Edwards made a mistake, but he 'fessed up to the only person who counts: his wife. And what about the ppl who are ripping Elizabeth? She's dying of cancer. If ppl can make excpetions for "a kid" (whose old enough to have a kid and marry) can't they give someone a break while they're dying for Chrissake? It seems to me that those who want to bring "character" and "values" into the equation should be held to the same yardstick that they hold others. But that would be too honest I guess.
Quote:

I think we'll find the Palin's are tougher nuts to crack then everybody thinks.
I think PWT will find the Palins "just like them" and cluster around them. It'll be like watching a soap opera.

---------------------------------
Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 9:29 AM

STORYMARK


I don't think Palin's daughter, or her pregancy should be an issue.

The woman has so many better things to tear her down over.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 11:30 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


I'd call them apples and oranges...but its more like apples and something so unlike apples as to be silly to even think about it...apples and diet Pepsi commericials from the 1980's or apples and page 1,243 of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire or maybe apples and John Edwards' mansion's next door neighbor's lawnmower (not the current one, the one he had in 1982).

There is simply no comparison.

And a fair number of those wanting to make an issue of this girl's choices are the same folks who were fussing cause Edwards 'cost' Hillary the election. Republicans never really made a big deal outa Edwards...he was a non-issue to us by the time this broke. It was the same Democrats who have so little regard for the private affairs (pun...not intended) of anyone who is not bowing at their alters.

Leave the girl be says I.



You mean it's like apples and... Democrats? How was I sure you wouldn't see any similarities whatsoever? I mean, it's not like we're talking about their private lives or anything...

You say it was the Democrats who had so little regard for the private affairs of others. What was that whole Clinton/Lewinski thing about again? I've forgotten. Something about private affairs... a Republican Congress wanting to see the dress he jacked on... Yeah, something like that...

What I find funny and ironic about the whole thing is the hypocrisy, as usual. Here's the VP candidate of the "family values" party, who's supposedly pro-contraception, pro abstinence, pro no-sex-until-marriage... and here's her underage pregnant daughter.

But I guess it's different this time, huh? It always is...


Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 1:00 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
The sad truth is, they're going to rip thru the daughter to get to the mother.



How dastardly of them. They SHOULD be talking to her preacher!

;)

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 1:18 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

I don't think Palin's daughter, or her pregancy should be an issue.



I can go along with that - IF they're willing to stop gravy-training the son's military service. If you get to talk about the one, we get to talk about the other. :)

Of course, everyone agrees that family should be off-limits.. until it's Michelle Obama doing the "terrorist fist-bump"... or Roger Clinton's checquered past... or Billy Carter whizzing on the tires of Air Force One.

Like it or not, family members seem to be fair game.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 1:51 PM

SERGEANTX


I think People magazine should sponsor the next debate.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 2:54 PM

DEADLOCKVICTIM



...i'm thinking a Family Feud type of setting would be appropriate.... but if it comes down to beauty contest, don't think i want to see McCain or Biden in the swimsuit competition...

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