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RNC protestors charged as terrorists
Thursday, September 4, 2008 3:06 AM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:Prosecutors in Ramsey County, Minn., have formally charged eight alleged leaders of the RNC Welcoming Committee -- one of the groups organizing protests at the GOP convention in St. Paul -- with terrorism-related charges. Monica Bicking, Eryn Trimmer, Luce Guillen Givins, Erik Oseland, Nathanael Secor, Robert Czernik, Garrett Fitzgerald and Max Spector, face up to 7 1/2 years in prison under the terrorism enhancement charge, which allows for a 50% increase in the maximum penalty they could face. It appears to be the first time criminal charges have been filed under the 2002 Minnesota version of the federal Patriot Act. The RNC Welcoming Committee is a self-described anarchist group that has worked for months planning disruptions at the convention. Police blamed the group for sparking violence during Monday's antiwar protest in St. Paul. Although most of the estimated 10,000 people at the march were peaceful, police say a splinter group of about 200 people harassed delegates, smashed windows and started at least one fire. Police have arrested nearly 300 people during the confrontations this week, according to the Associated Press. Huffstutter reported on the protests for the blog Tuesday. And this morning, we told the story of journalist Amy Goodman's arrest at Monday's march. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/rnc-protesters.html
Thursday, September 4, 2008 3:17 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: What do you expect, when the U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act was written by a resident of Communist Vietnam?
Thursday, September 4, 2008 4:05 AM
Quote:Due to the massive opposition by cities, counties and states to the "Patriot Act," Attorney General John Ashcroft is now sending forth his emissary, former U.S. assistant attorney general, Professor Viet Dinh, who authored the controversial legislation to conduct damange control in selected cities. To date, 282 communities in 39 states and four state-wide resolutions, representing about 49.3 million people have stepped forward to oppose the Patriot Act, either in whole or specific parts. Forty-five days after September 11, 2001 and with no debate, Congress passed the USA Patriot Act. According to Congressman Ron Paul {R-TX}, members of Congress were not given copies of the bill to review before the vote, "It's my understanding the bill wasn't printed before the vote — at least I couldn't get it. They played all kinds of games, kept the House in session all night, and it was a very complicated bill. Maybe a handful of staffers actually read it, but the bill definitely was not available to members before the vote." Opponents of this law cite serious unconstitutional provisions, i.e., checks on law enforcement are nullified. As one example, without a warrant or probable cause, the FBI now has the power to access your very private medical records, student records, library records and can strong arm anyone from letting you know your rights have been violated. The constitutionally guaranteed right for full protection under the Fourth Amendment against unreasonable search and seizure was completely abrogated by this law. Ashcroft's point man for this road tour is Professor Viet Dinh, currently a professor of law at Georgetown University and a term member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Dinh escaped from Viet Nam in 1978 at age 10. Now, at age 34, Dinh is quite a story: boat refugee from Vietnam, Oregon fruit picker, Orange County burger-flipper, Harvard Law School graduate, U.S. Supreme Court clerk, Georgetown Law School professor and lawyer to a high-powered congressional committee. www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/facinfo/tab_faculty.cfm?Status=Faculty&ID=204 www.newswithviews.com/NWVexclusive/exclusive8.htm
Thursday, September 4, 2008 4:29 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:If they don't wanna be prosecuted as terrorists...they might want to knock off the violence.
Quote:Just look at the thousands of folks around you...singing, dancing, making funny Bush limericks, waving signs and generally protesting all silly like...but peaceful. You don't see them being arrested.
Thursday, September 4, 2008 4:52 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Thursday, September 4, 2008 5:12 AM
WASHNWEAR
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: The animal-idiots on the streets vandalizing property and attacking police & citizens are indeed terrorists. They should all be sent to Guantanamo, and they could stay there and rot for all I care.
Thursday, September 4, 2008 5:37 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Thursday, September 4, 2008 5:40 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2008 6:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Jong Have you learned nothing from history ? Insurrection is the American path to freedom.
Thursday, September 4, 2008 6:49 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Thursday, September 4, 2008 7:03 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2008 7:16 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote: How you can continually justify violence and lawlessness against American citizens & taxpayers is beyond my ability to comprehend.
Quote:I know that you and your smug elitist ilk are soiling your Pampers over the speeches last night.
Quote:I know you heard things that have you really doubting the wisdom of Obama's nomination over Hillary...well too f'ing bad!
Quote:You internet bunnies and naive freaks wanted him, well you got him.
Thursday, September 4, 2008 7:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Memo to Anthony, No one nominated or elected you to tell anyone here how or what to post. Dong ma? We've got anarchist and liberal loons here outnumbering traditionalists by about 10 to 1, and you're lecturing me...oh pshaw!
Thursday, September 4, 2008 7:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Have you learned nothing from history ? Insurrection is the American path to freedom.
Thursday, September 4, 2008 7:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by rue: Have you learned nothing from history ? Insurrection is the American path to freedom. Actually transportation has always been the American path to freedom. Ships, riverboats, covered wagons, planes, trains, automobiles. Perhaps if these young folks were to take their energy and invent the flying car or something then they'd stand a better chance of being taken seriously instead of just taken into custody. H
Thursday, September 4, 2008 8:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Wasn't it you who said the protesters could go rot in Guantanamo, and you'd be happy? You may not realize it, but it is YOU who is trying to "justify violence and lawlessness against American citizens and taxpayers" - by the very police agencies who are supposed to PROTECT AND SERVE THEM!
Thursday, September 4, 2008 8:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So you're saying we ran away from the British in the Revolution? It's your position that our greatest American strength is cowardice?
Thursday, September 4, 2008 8:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So you're saying we ran away from the British in the Revolution? It's your position that our greatest American strength is cowardice? We ran away from the British for a hundred years BEFORE the Revolution. The War just formalized the whole business. Oh, and it never stopped. People have been moving to America and through America since America was America. H
Thursday, September 4, 2008 10:20 AM
WHOZIT
Thursday, September 4, 2008 10:51 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2008 11:10 AM
FUTUREMRSFILLION
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: [B How you can continually justify violence and lawlessness against American citizens & taxpayers is beyond my ability to comprehend. !
Thursday, September 4, 2008 12:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So you're saying we ran away from the British in the Revolution? It's your position that our greatest American strength is cowardice? We ran away from the British for a hundred years BEFORE the Revolution. The War just formalized the whole business. Oh, and it never stopped. People have been moving to America and through America since America was America. H I give you credit Hero, you do try. This gal has drunk so much kool-aid to ease her Bush Derangement psychosis, she's grown jug handles.
Thursday, September 4, 2008 1:18 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2008 1:51 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2008 4:07 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Friday, September 5, 2008 1:32 AM
Quote:Rage Guitarist Tom Morello: Government-Sponsored Terror "Embedded in the DNA" Of American Politics "When the media speaks of terrorism it tends to be in the context of lone bandits from middle eastern countries when most of the terrorism that occurs in the world is government sponsored." Morello told Change reporters. "Whether it's the Bush administration or the Putin administration, terror is not something that is unfamiliar to governments." "It is nothing new," Morello continued, "From Gulf of Tonkin to the Maine, in the Spanish American war, it is something that is embedded, unfortunately, in the DNA of American politics." www.infowars.net/articles/September2008/040908Morello.htm
Quote:FTP Rage Against the Machine concert cancelled by martial law at RNC Non-Con, causing a GUARANTEED riot: www.prisonplanet.com/protesters-storm-rnc-after-cops-shut-down-%e2%80%98rage%e2%80%99-concert.html FTP by Rage Against the Machine: When a US citizen does this in USA to protest Bush, nobody cares? www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/8/181521/850
Friday, September 5, 2008 7:48 AM
Friday, September 5, 2008 8:25 AM
Quote:We've got anarchist and liberal loons here outnumbering traditionalists by about 10 to 1
Friday, September 5, 2008 1:20 PM
Quote: Come on, how many wars start with... "HEY, that was MINE!" "Well it's mine now! "Give it back, or I'm taking it!" "Like hell you will!" (both)"MOMMY!" (The UN)
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