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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I caught this story on CNN this morning. "Lipstick on a Pig." The Republicans said it, and it's apparently some kind of expression.

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
One of the reasons I have a hard time supporting McCain is because he always whines like a little bitch every time someone says something negative. I'm sure Obama's comment was directed at Plain, but I'm sure she can take it. Not so sure about McCain. Maybe she will have a good influence on McCain and get him to stop whining, but you know " you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear".

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
One of the reasons I have a hard time supporting McCain is because he always whines like a little bitch every time someone says something negative.

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"You know what the difference is between a hockey Mom and a Pit Bull? Lipstick."?

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

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"You know what the difference is between a hockey Mom and a Pit Bull? Lipstick."?

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Somebody please explain this joke to me. I heard her say it live, I've read about how it was so witty in blogs and news articles, and now it's being mentioned here.

Why is this funny at all?

There's plenty of soccer (hocky) moms I've known in my life that look like pitbulls and for loyalty reasons there's probably quite a few pitbulls I'd rather be rooming with full time than Hockey moms.



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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Somebody please explain this joke to me. I heard her say it live, I've read about how it was so witty in blogs and news articles, and now it's being mentioned here.

Why is this funny at all?

There's plenty of soccer (hocky) moms I've known in my life that look like pitbulls and for loyalty reasons there's probably quite a few pitbulls I'd rather be rooming with full time than Hockey moms.

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Originally posted by Hero:
One of the reasons I don't support Barrack is that people cry racism every time somebody starts making any headway against him.
http://wcbstv.com/politics/paterson.mccain.palin.2.813646.html

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
What about the Biden "lipstick" reference to Palin yesterday? Not as offensive as Obama's stupidity( hey, I saw the whole incident leading up to it and the reaction after ), but just as grossly sexist. Two GREAT STATESMEN, and all they can do is hurl insults at Palin? Pretty fucking pathetic!

By the way who is Obama running against for President?..........

Sarah Palin ???
Sean Hannity ???
Fox News ???

That's all he talks about anymore. He's the LEAST Presidential fellow I've ever seen. Completely fucking OBSSESSED with little 'ole Fox News. I guess being hyped 24 hours a day on CNN & MSNBC & the NETWORKS isn't good enough for him. He's gone to war with Fox News and Hannity, actually elevating their status. The sad truth is that he blew the O'Reilly interview badly. He looked very un-Presidential. He should have called Al Sharpton on how to handle O'Reilly. It was really disappointing and amazing to see Obama squirm and cry for his mommy, and beg Bill for his understanding of his radical associations and socialist policies.

That's the way I see it, and that's the way I believe it. You disagee?...Swell!

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:

Hey Jongs,

Who'd you say was foaming at the mouth yesterday?

HKCavalier

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Hey Jongs,

Who'd you say was foaming at the mouth yesterday?
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I'm telling the truth about the events yesterday, and yes I'm mad about them. If you support these men who visciously attack Palin only because they see HER as the big threat to them, then you are as bad as they are. If you saw & heard Obama on OReilly, and then to go after Fox while on Fox, comparing Fox to The Daily KOS, you'd realize just how desperate and frantic he's become....but I'll bet you just think I make all this up right? You never see it , right? Lot's of folks in America are seeing it very clearly too.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If you support these men who visciously attack Palin...

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:

But c'mon, here's the truth: Obama has 243 of the 270 electoral votes safely in his hands, while McCain controls only 189. McCain would have to nearly double his numbers to beat Obama and Obamna only needs another 27 electoral college votes to win the election. McCain would have to win virtually every contested state in the race to win now.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Somebody please explain this joke to me. I heard her say it live, I've read about how it was so witty in blogs and news articles, and now it's being mentioned here.

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Obama has 243 of the 270 electoral votes safely in his hands, while McCain controls only 189. McCain would have to nearly double his numbers to beat Obama and Obamna only needs another 27 electoral college votes to win the election. McCain would have to win virtually every contested state in the race to win now.

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I think Obama supporters should start wearing little pig-noses with lipstick painted on them!

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Now the Dems use it, and the Republicans are crying foul. Are they being unreasonable, or are they right? Is this a veiled attack at Palin, who used the line, "You know what the difference is between a hockey Mom and a Pit Bull? Lipstick."?

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
How 'bout the lie that Obama wants to teach sex ed to kindergartners when he was supporting a bill to teach children how to deal with child molesters? What a pathetic and despicable and, yes, vicious lie.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
But c'mon, here's the truth: Obama has 243 of the 270 electoral votes safely in his hands, while McCain controls only 189.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
OF COURSE it was a slander at Palin. All the listeners there got it! They stood up and cheered mockingly. You think they would have stood up and cheered if it was anything else?

Also, Biden made a LIPSTICK reference yesterday too when he attacked Palin.

So the sequence here is that Palin uses the "lipstick" brilliantly in her speech, and then these two women-haters, Obama & Biden, throw it back at her in an insulting way within a week later. Can't they at least be "original" in their misogyinist rants? They have sunk to new all-time lows.

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At the very least, whether Obama MEANT it that way or not, his fans and supporters clearly saw it as a jab at Gov. Palin. Much like Kerry's ill deliverd joke about doing poorly in school will lead you to ( getting elected twice to the highest office in the land and leader in the free world - the larger part that Kerry left out ) making poor choices later on in life and you'll end up in Iraq, supposidly directed at President Bush. Few bought Kerry's tepid attempt at recovery, so the lesson is learned. Know your audience, and be wary of what you say.



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Originally posted by AURaptor:
At the very least, whether Obama MEANT it that way or not,

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
At the very least, whether Obama MEANT it that way or not, his fans and supporters clearly saw it as a jab at Gov. Palin.

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Edited to add that Obama said on Letterman I think,

and this makes perfect sense to me, that given the current political climate taht if he had meant that it would have made more sense if Mccain's failed policies were the pig and Palin was the lipstick,

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Although no one ever did answer my question from before: Where was your righteous indignation when McCain said the exact same thing about Hillary Clinton? Where were your charges of sexism then?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Although no one ever did answer my question from before: Where was your righteous indignation when McCain said the exact same thing about Hillary Clinton? Where were your charges of sexism then?

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Originally posted by Hero:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
At the very least, whether Obama MEANT it that way or not,

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If people were offended, then like Imus, Obama needs to apologize.

I don't think that Palin or McCain were offended. My Mother, lifelong Democrat was offended and is really taking the attacks on Palin's family personally. She voted Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and plans to vote McCain/Palin having had her mind changed in the last three weeks.

What most impressed so many women about Palin was her ability to weather the storm and then deliver what many think is among the best convention performances ever.

But Barrack needs to understand, women like my Mother and some others I've talked to saw this as a personal attack and see it as a weight/image attack which they found particularly offensive.

I likened it to if McCain were to come out and said he planned to 'give Barrack enough rope to hang himself' which is a perfectly innocent comment...unless your talking about a black man and people think lynching.

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I thought it was pretty savvy politics on his part, and he's maintained plausible deniability on it the whole time.

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Because if Palin hadn’t have made the Lipstick comment, Obama’s comment would have gone unnoticed too. It’s the combination of the two that relate the comment to Palin.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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Because if Palin hadn’t have made the Lipstick comment, Obama’s comment would have gone unnoticed too. It’s the combination of the two that relate the comment to Palin.

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So you're saying that she now owns the copyright on the word "lipstick", and that no one can ever again say that trying to pretty up an ugly thing is tantamount to "putting lipstick on a pig"?

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No, I’m not saying anything of the sort.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You certainly SEEM to be saying that since she made a remark about lipstick, he is now not allowed to mention the word.

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That is not what I’m saying, but evidently a similar relationship between McCain and Hillary cannot be found, so there is no way to judge it as meaning the same as Obama’s comment.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
You have yet to show that McCain was speaking directly about Hillary. That’s you’re problem. Palin’s Lipstick comment relates Obama’s lipstick comment to her, but you haven’t show that there is any relationship between what McCain said and Hillary. You simply assume that if McCain used the same hackneyed phrase as Obama that it must be meant the same way, but that is not the case. So if you want to show how the McCain comment is related to Hillary, then I’m listening, if not, you can’t show a relation.

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