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RE: the coming election, are we more misogynistic or are we more racist?
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:50 AM
CHRISISALL
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:59 AM
CITIZEN
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by citizen: Shut up Chris.
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:07 AM
DEADLOCKVICTIM
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by deadlockvictim: ...tha both a ya's... stfu
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:13 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:14 AM
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:17 AM
Quote: Sen. John McCain has spent much of his two decades in Congress pushing deregulation, but the Republican presidential nominee is continuing his election year migration toward more government control of the economy as the nation faces one of its greatest financial crises since the Great Depression. "I want the people in Ohio here to know that I have not forgotten the economy on Main Street," McCain said during a campaign stop in Strongsville, Ohio, on Tuesday. "Not Wall Street, not Washington, D.C., but Main Street is the focus of our attention and our efforts."
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: IF Palin were running for Prez we'd see misogyny out in full force. As it is we have a white guy running against a half-black guy (which, by today's "onr drop of blood" standards means "black").
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:24 AM
Quote:It just seems to me the attacks on Palin have been more vicious than the ones on Obama, & have been centered around her being PMS-y, a bad mom, a vindictive bitch, etc. But then, I may be placing too much importance on supermarket rag influence
FUTUREMRSFILLION
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion: Why would it have to be misogynistic to NOT vote for Palin. Isn't it possible that one would NOT vote for her because she is not qualified and her running is a joke?
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: IF Palin were running for Prez we'd see misogyny out in full force. As it is we have a white guy running against a half-black guy (which, by today's "onr drop of blood" standards means "black"). It just seems to me the attacks on Palin have been more vicious than the ones on Obama, & have been centered around her being PMS-y, a bad mom, a vindictive bitch, etc. But then, I may be placing too much importance on supermarket rag influence... Enquiring Chrisisall ] What? I have not heard or seen anything of this nature! Chrisisall have you been writing letters to the editor again I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn! "We don't fear the reaper" FORSAKEN original “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:54 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: Oh, she's an idiot and a liar to be sure, she's unqualified on any professional scale-
MALBADINLATIN
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: It just seems to me the attacks on Palin have been more vicious than the ones on Obama, & have been centered around her being PMS-y, a bad mom, a vindictive bitch, etc. But then, I may be placing too much importance on supermarket rag influence
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 9:55 AM
Quote:Amazing. You couldn't be more wrong with that sentence , no matter how hard you tried! You got every damn detail exactly wrong ! Amazing!
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote: Oh, she's an idiot and a liar to be sure, she's unqualified on any professional scale- Amazing. You couldn't be more wrong with that sentence , no matter how hard you tried! You got every damn detail exactly wrong ! Amazing!
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:21 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:28 AM
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:38 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Sorry AU. I was speaking from a POV of objective reality,
Quote: I'll taylor it to your special needs: "Oh, she's an unquantifiable intellect and a questionable choice as far as consistency goes to be sure, she's arguably lacking on many professional levels
Quote: - but then I am no Republican, and as such, have no real valuable input on this matter, save for my single-minded wish for the destruction of the civilized world, so pay me no mind." isall
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:51 AM
SWISH
Quote:Originally posted by rue: and, oh yeah, did you know she's a soccer mom ?
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:20 AM
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:42 PM
KIRKULES
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: it's all a dog & pony show, worse than being almost anything but a queer. Sure, no one wants a darkie in there, but at least he threatens no one's sexuality
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Sorry AU. I was speaking from a POV of objective reality, Bless you, for that TRULY is funny!! Quote: I'll taylor it to your special needs: "Oh, she's an unquantifiable intellect and a questionable choice as far as consistency goes to be sure, she's arguably lacking on many professional levels arguably, because she's a Repulblican. Were she a Democrat, she'd be the most glorious creature ever to grace our fair planet. Quote: - but then I am no Republican, and as such, have no real valuable input on this matter, save for my single-minded wish for the destruction of the civilized world, so pay me no mind." isall
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: She's not even a lawyer!!
Quote:Were she a Democrat, she'd be the most glorious creature ever to grace our fair planet.
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:01 PM
Quote:but there's no evidence of her {Palin} doing so
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:28 PM
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Roughly 80% of people tested have shown unconscious bias against blacks, and that includes about half the blacks - one of the odd statistics I found in 'Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking' (Malcolm Gladwell) (overall an uninteresting book filled with interesting facts). Unfortunately there were no similar figures given for women. Historically, all women were given the vote far later than black men, so that argues for more bias against women. OTOH, I do have to agree with SignyM - Palin has given us little else to go on except that she's a soccer mom. I haven't heard any information, analysis, opinion, position, or policy from her - just talking points, and, oh yeah, did you know she's a soccer mom ? Randal Graves: Since when did porch monkey suddenly become a racial slur? Dante Hicks: When ignorant racists started saying it a hundred years ago! Randal Graves: Oh, bullshit! My grandmother used to call me a porch monkey all the time when I was a kid because I'd sit on the porch and stare at my neighbors! Dante Hicks: Despite the fact that your grandmother might've used it as a term of endearment for you, it's still a racial slur! It'd be like your grandmother calling you a little kike! Randal Graves: Oh, it is not. Plus, my grandmother had nothing but the utmost respect for the Jewish community. When I was a kid she told me to always treat the Jewish kids well, or they'd put the sheeny curse on me. Dante Hicks: What the fuck, man? Randal Graves: What? Dante Hicks: Sheeny's a racial slur, too! Randal Graves: Oh, it is not. Dante Hicks: Yes, it is! Randal Graves: She never called any Jews 'sheeny', she just used to say sheeny curse a lot. It was cute! Dante Hicks: It wasn't cute! It was racist! Randal Graves: I disagree, man, she was just an old timer, that's the way people talked back then! Didn't mean they were racist... But my grandmother did refer to a broken beer bottle once as a nigger knife... You know, come to think of it, my grandmother was kind of a racist. Dante Hicks: You think? Randal Graves: Well, I-I still don't think porch monkey should be considered a racial term. I mean, I've always used it to describe lazy people, not lazy black people! I think if we really tried, we could re-claim porch monkey, and save it. Dante Hicks: It can't be saved, Randal! The sole purpose for its creation, the only reason it exists in the first place, is to disparage an entire race! And even if it could be saved, you can't save it because you're not black! Randal Graves: Well listen to you! Telling me I can't do something because of the color of my skin! You're the racist! I'm taking it back, you watch! [customers enter] Randal Graves: Hey, what can I get for you, you little porch monkey? [beat] Randal Graves: Its cool, I'm taking it back. Its cool. Im taking it back. Amen. lol
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:52 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:You claim she's lied, but there's no evidence of her doing so.
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:04 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:13 AM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:10 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: IE: Sexism runs deeper than racism at this point in time.
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:15 AM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:23 AM
Quote:Frankly I have had it, and I know a lot of other women out there who are with me on this. I have had enough of the sexist treatment of Sarah Palin. It has to end. She was in New York on Tuesday meeting with world leaders at the U.N. And what did the McCain campaign do? They tried to ban reporters from covering those meetings. And they did ban reporters from asking Gov. Palin any questions. I call upon the McCain campaign to stop treating Sarah Palin like she is a delicate flower who will wilt at any moment. This woman is from Alaska for crying out loud. She is strong, she is tough, she is confident. And you claim she is ready to be one heartbeat away from the presidency. If that is the case, then end this chauvinistic treatment of her now. Allow her to show her stuff. Allow her to face down those pesky reporters just like Barack Obama did today, just like John McCain did today. Just like Joe Biden has done on numerous occasions. Let her have a real news conference with real questions. By treating Sarah Palin differently from other candidates in this race, you are not showing her the respect she deserves. Free Sarah Palin. Free her from the chauvinistic chains you are binding her with. Sexism in this campaign must come to an end. Sarah Palin has as much a right to be a real candidate in this race as the men do. So let her act like one.
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:40 AM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: That lack of evidence is right there with the "on fire" economy, the historic success of the Bush tax and dergulation policy, Saddam's WMD, the UN authorization of "use of force", and the lack of evidence of global warming.
Quote: Pay Rapo no mind. He's one of those hopeless cases who'll have to "hit bottom" before he gives up his addiction to a factless, clueless ideology. Of course, he may be one of those addicts who nevers "hits bottom". We may find him one day, dead at the side of the road of history.
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:07 AM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:26 AM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:29 AM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:34 AM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:39 AM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: And, whomever wins (unless its Ron Paul) we all lose.
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:51 AM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:Ron Paul Endorses Unknown Man from Unknown Party Baldwin is that one-two punch combination of Pundit and Pastor -- his evangelical church is in Pensacola Florida. His party believes in abolishing the UN, ending the Iraq War, a repeal of income, sales, and inheritance taxes, a "constitutionally limited form of government", as well as of course, immigration reform. I'm thumbing through my copy of the Constitution right now to find the section that describes that the government must build a giant fucking wall around its borders to keep the brown people out. http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/09/23/ron-pauls-endorses-unknown-man-from-unknown-party/
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:You claim she's lied, but there's no evidence of her doing so. "I told the government 'Thanks, but no thanks, on that Bridge to Nowhere'..." That's a flat-out lie. She didn't tell the government shit. She lobbied FOR the bridge, even campaigned in favor of it as part of her platform, and only when the ridicule of it truly started did she have any part of it not going forward. But she, of course, still took the money for the bridge.
Quote: "I welcome the investigation. Hold me accountable" on the TrooperGate case - which she is now dodging subpoenas for, refusing to talk to investigators, trying to have the investigation halted, etc. Mike .
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:34 PM
DEEPGIRL187
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:37 PM
RIGHTEOUS9
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:57 PM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by deepgirl187: Guys, let's be really honest with ourselves here. The country's fucked no matter who gets elected. Putting on a new coat of paint doesn't hide the rot within. Might as well get wasted and party now, probably won't have the chance later (cynical, who me? ).
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