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Billionaire Steve Fossett's Personal Documents Found
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 1:17 PM
OUT2THEBLACK
Thursday, October 2, 2008 12:02 AM
Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:06 AM
PIRATENEWS
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Quote: www.mackwhite.com/northwoods.html OPERATION NORTHWOODS signed: General Lyman Lemnitzer USAF Jewish chairman US joint chiefs of staff at Pentagon b. We could blow up a drone (unmannded) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presense of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago would add credibility especially to those people that might have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could follow with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existant crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation. 6. Use of MIG type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type planes would be useful as complementary actions. An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of the transport were to announce such fact. The primary drawback to this suggestion appears to be the security risk inherent in obtaining or modifying an aircraft. However, reasonable copies of the MIG could be purchased from US resources in about three months. 8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight. a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be subsituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone. b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by the destruction of aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow IACO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident. 9. It is possible to create an incident which will make it appear that Communist Cuban MIGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack. a. Approximately 4 of 5 F-101 aircraft will be dispatched in trail from Homestead AFB, Florida, to the vicinity of Cuba. Their mission will be to reverse course and simulate fakir aircraft for an air defense exercise in southern Florida. These aircraft would conduct variations of these flights at frequent intervals. Crews would be briefed to remain at least 12 miles off the Cuban coast; however, they would be required to carry live ammunition in the event that hostile actions were taken by the Cuban MIGs. b. On one such flight, a pre-briefed pilot would fly tail-end Charley at considerable interval between aircraft. While near the Cuban Island this pilot would broadcast that he had been jumped by MIGs and was going down. No other calls would be made. The pilot would then fly directly west at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base, an Eglin auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a new tail number. The pilot who had performed the mission under an alias, would resume his proper identity and return to his normal place of business. The pilot and aircraft would then have disappeared. c. At precisely the same time that the aircraft was presumably shot down a submarine or small surface craft would disburse F-101 parts, parachute, etc., at approximately 15 to 20 miles off the Cuban coast and depart. The pilots retuning to Homestead would have a true story as far as they knew. Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts of aircraft found. www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Northwoods.html www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
Quote:"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks.” —Usama bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001 http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/ "We've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming." —Dick Cheney, "Interview of the Vice President by Tony Snow", March 29, 2006 www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html QUESTION: "Mr President, in your speeches, you rarely mention Osama Bin Laden. Why is that?" GEORGE BUSH JR: "I don't know where he is. I just don't spend that much time on him." QUESTION: "But Osama bin Laden is the one that — you keep talking about his lieutenants, and, yes, they are very important, but Osama bin Laden was the mastermind of 9/11..." DANA PERINO: "No, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was the mastermind of 9/11, and he’s sitting in jail right now." "9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” —FBI agent Rex Tomb, June 6, 2006 www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm "The goal has never been to get Bin Laden." —General Richard Myers, chairman, US Joint Chiefs of Staff www.myspace.com/911pressfortruth "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh heh heh, just so long as I'm the dictator, heh heh heh." —Governor George W Bush, November 2000 www.piratenews.org/911con.html www.september911surprise.com
Quote:Aero-News Quote of the Day, 1 October 2008 "I think had I been in some tighty-whiteys it wouldn't have happened, but it was boxers. I thought, 'It's not a big deal. They send a sales paper out every week that has some guy standing there in his boxers, no one is offended by that.' But that airport was. I thought it was going to shut down. People started yelling. It was a huge scene. Police were running through the airport, and TSA officers were running toward me and I'm like, 'What?'" Source: Country music singer Jimmy Wayne, who says he misinterpreted instructions from a TSA screener at an unnamed California airport to remove items from his shorts... by instead, removing his shorts. All passengers strip-searched by TSA illegal aliens, er, "security screeners" www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2003/06/26/20030626_141612.htm
Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:38 PM
Quote:Fossett made his money in the financial services industry but became renowned for his daredevil exploits. He was the first person to circle the globe solo in a balloon, accomplishing the feat in 2002, and the first to fly a plane around the world solo without refueling, which he did three years later. He also set world records in round-the-world sailing and cross-country skiing.
Quote: Cessna, Piper ELT, Emergency Locator Transmitter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Position-Indicating_Radio_Beacon Quote:Currently, ELTs are required to be installed in almost all U.S.-registered civil aircraft, including general aviation aircraft, as a result of a congressional mandate. The mandate resulted from the 1972 loss of U.S. Representative Hale Boggs [Warren Commission] and Nick Begich in Alaska after their aircraft crashed and was [allegedly] never found [BS]. The original ELTs were manufactured to the specifications of an FAA technical standard order (TSO-C91) and have an activation rate of less than 25 percent in actual crashes and a 97 percent false-alarm rate. In 1985, a new TSO-C91A ELT was developed, which substantially reduces or eliminates many problems with the earlier model. The TSO-C91A provides improved performance and reliability (with an activation rate of 73 percent in actual crashes) at a reasonable cost to users ($200-$500 including installation). Since then, an even more advanced model of ELT has been developed — the C126 ELT (406 MHz). This newest model activates 81-83 percent of the time and transmits a more accurate and near-instantaneous emergency signal by utilizing digital technology. In 1982 a satellite-based monitoring system was implemented (COSPAS-SARSAT) to provide a better receiving source for these signals. www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/elt.html Why can't we find Steve Fossett? "Millionaire Adventurer" Steve Fossett has now been missing for three days after his plane went down over Nevada. Search and Rescue seems to be having a lot of trouble finding him, which is a bit surprising. I had just assumed that he wasn't carrying a locator beacon for some reason (I don't think that PLBs are required, but I admit I'm not sure), but according to this he was: "This is kind of strange because these aircrafts have transponders and emergency locators and you can usually readily find them anywhere in the world, including under the sea," said Ross Aimer, CEO of Aviation Experts, a San Clemente, California-based aviation consulting firm. "This guy is totally lost.... So far, nobody's heard the electronic location beacon," said Aimer, who has flown the region several times. "That sounds to me very, very strange. There's all kinds of possibilities." Officials say there's been no detection of the emergency locator beacon that would automatically go off in the event of a crash or could have been enabled by Fossett himself if he were capable. Fossett did not file a flight plan and didn't carry extra radio equipment because he was only planning to be gone for a short while, Ryan said. Weird. www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2007/09/why_cant_we_fin.html The aerial search over hundreds of miles of Nevada desert for adventurer Steve Fossett's missing plane highlights the urgent need for equipping planes with new digital emergency locator beacons, federal authorities said Wednesday. The small plane piloted by Fossett, 63, was equipped with an older emergency beacon that is notorious for failing to operate after crashes, according to federal safety officials and the agencies that monitor the emergency beacons. Conversely, the older beacons require a satellite to pass overhead twice before NOAA can determine its location and launch a search, said Shoup. That could take several hours, he said. The satellites can only narrow down the location to within several hundred square miles. www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-09-05-fossett_N.htm?csp=34
Quote:Currently, ELTs are required to be installed in almost all U.S.-registered civil aircraft, including general aviation aircraft, as a result of a congressional mandate. The mandate resulted from the 1972 loss of U.S. Representative Hale Boggs [Warren Commission] and Nick Begich in Alaska after their aircraft crashed and was [allegedly] never found [BS]. The original ELTs were manufactured to the specifications of an FAA technical standard order (TSO-C91) and have an activation rate of less than 25 percent in actual crashes and a 97 percent false-alarm rate. In 1985, a new TSO-C91A ELT was developed, which substantially reduces or eliminates many problems with the earlier model. The TSO-C91A provides improved performance and reliability (with an activation rate of 73 percent in actual crashes) at a reasonable cost to users ($200-$500 including installation). Since then, an even more advanced model of ELT has been developed — the C126 ELT (406 MHz). This newest model activates 81-83 percent of the time and transmits a more accurate and near-instantaneous emergency signal by utilizing digital technology. In 1982 a satellite-based monitoring system was implemented (COSPAS-SARSAT) to provide a better receiving source for these signals. www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/elt.html
Quote:Into thin air: Did Steve Fossett fake his own death? The faked-death story goes as follows. In the months leading up to his death, Fossett may have been leading what breathless news reports describe as "a secret double life". There were suggestions that he had opened secret bank accounts, and was cheating on his wife of 38 years with not one, but two mistresses. His finances had also taken a hit after a string of unlucky investments, and the prospect of a messy divorce had left him facing public humiliation and financial ruin. As Fossett's many previous collaborations with Sir Richard Branson suggest, he was a born showman, meticulous about maintaining a gilded public image. According to the faked death theory, disappearing off the face of the earth would allow him to avoid both fates – while leaving a fitting personal legacy after a swashbuckling career that had started to enter its teatime years. In addition, Fossett – who had accumulated great wealth but may have hit difficulties – had a $52m motive for going missing: a life insurance policy that would secure his wife's financial future. According to the case against Fossett, the plane he was flying might also have been designed to make a rescue operation difficult. He was flying a Citabria Super Decathlon, a single-engined light aircraft made from wood and fabric. Most of its lightweight structure is invisible to radar and infrared detectors. It is also easily dismantled and hidden. To add to these circumstances, Fossett took off that day without his usual first-aid kit and with only a single bottle of water. His pilot's GPS watch, which boasts an emergency location device, was left in his bedside table at the ranch. Hilton's pilot, the only man who actually witnessed the takeoff, has never been quizzed by official authorities, reports have claimed that he was surprised to notice that the famous adventurer failed to carry out the aircraft's standard safety check before setting out – a short procedure that might have flagged that its satellite location system was apparently not working. Ciolino, who knows Chicago's legal system, said Fossett's death certificate was issued with almost indecent haste. "I deal in a lot of probate cases involving very large estates, and nothing ever happens fast in them. But that guy got declared dead in world record time. It just doesn't add up." Other investigators say that Fossett, who had made a fortune in finance before achieving fame through his circumnavigation of the globe in a hot-air balloon, was suffering from the downturn in America's economy. He was rumoured to have invested in troubled firms such as Morgan Stanley and Bear Stearns. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/into-thin-air-did-steve-fossett-fake-his-own-death-882540.html
Quote:Adventurer Steve Fossett 'may have faked his own death' Round-the-world flying adventurer Steve Fossett may have faked his own death, investigators have claimed Lieutenant Colonel Cynthia Ryan of the US Civil Air Patrol has said Fossett, whose body or plane was never found, could still be alive. She said: "I've been doing this search and rescue for 14 years. Fossett should have been found. "It's not like we didn't have our eyes open. We found six other planes while we were looking for him. We're pretty good at what we do." Fossett's disappearance sparked the biggest search in American history, with the Civil Air Patrol's Black Hawks, fitted with infra-red technology, joined by over 30 private planes and internet experts scanning the Nevada desert looking for clues. Lt Col Ryan believes Fossett may have faked his own death due to personal problems or fears about his business dealings. There are also a number of anomalies that question whether Fossett's plane ever crashed. Only one witness, a pilot at hotel magnate Barron Hilton's flying ranch near Reno, claims to have seen him take off that day. That witness claims Fossett asked him to prepare the plane for take off, even though he had never allowed anyone else to do this before. Fossett also apparently claimed he was going to scout for locations for a land speed record attempt, but he supposedly took off with no emergency equipment. The choice of plane was also a baffling one - a Bellanca Citabria Super Decathlon, which, according to risk assessor Robert Davis said was constructed from a steel and wood frame, but actually covered in fabric, making it easy to dismantle. Davis conducted an eight-month investigation for insurers Lloyd's of London, said to face a £25 million payout on Fossett's death. He said: "What I've strived to find out is what happened to this man in the run-up to his disappearance, why did he disappear? "I spoke to reporters who were on the scene, people who were helping out with the search efforts, anyone whom I thought could shed some light on this. "I discovered that there is absolutely no proof that Steve Fossett is actually dead. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a man who deals in facts, and I don't really care if he is alive or dead, it make no difference to me. "What I am interested in is the truth - and a proper criminal investigation of this man's disappearance was never undertaken by law enforcement or officials in the state of Nevada." www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2462912/Adventurer-Steve-Fossett-%27may-have-faked-his-own-death%27.html
Friday, October 3, 2008 3:36 AM
Quote:ORIGINAL TITLE NOW CENSORED: Bones found in Steve Fossett's plane wreck 'may be from animals' NEW TITLE: Steve Fossett 'died instantly when his plane crashed into mountain in cloudy conditions' 2ND NEW TITLE: 'This closes a painful chapter in my life,' says wife of missing adventurer Steve Fossett as bone piece is DNA tested CLICK ON LINK TO SEE REDIRECT URL: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1066253/Bones-Steve-Fossetts-plane-wreck-animals.html NTSB never investigated 9/11 Tests were being carried out today on human remains found amid the wreckage of Steve Fossett's plane on a remote Californian mountain. Search crews found a 'very small amount' of remains in debris from the crash site, at 10,000 feet in the Sierra Nevada mountains. The tests come as a local sheriff claims the bones found belonged to an animal. Sheriff John Anderson said he was unsure that the bones discovered at the wreckage site were even human. A helicopter was today hauling pieces of the wreckage away before a snow storm sweeps in. Local officials said the wreckage implied a violent crash which destroyed the plane. 'It's not intact by any means... It looks like a very high impact crash. It is not known if the plane suffered a mechanical failure or if Mr Fossett had a medical problem such as a heart attack. Fossett flew this biplane across the Atlantic Ocean using only a sextant and compass for navigation Hiker Preston Morrow, who also found three identification cards with Fossett's name while returning from a trek on Monday, said: 'I was coming back down this really steep terrain and what caught my eye was these little ID cards in the dirt and the pine needles, and some $100 bills. 'I see the ID. I caught the name. I got the ID cards ... and about five or six of the hundred dollar bills (which) were dirty and muddy. 'I was wondering, why are there some ID cards and money when there was nothing else? No wallet, no bags, nothing nothing, nothing. Sir Richard Branson, a fellow balloonist and close friend of Mr Fossett, said on Thursday night that he had led 'a most extraordinary life'. He also said the discovery should lay to rest conspiracy theories suggesting Mr Fossett may have faked his own death. The speculation followed a judge's decision to declare Mr Fossett legally dead in February, five months after his disappearance, allowing his widow, Peggy, to collect his £6million estate. Under Illinois state law, someone usually has to be missing for seven years before a court gives up hope. Billionaire wizards flew balloon to Oz
Saturday, October 4, 2008 9:16 AM
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ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Sunday, October 5, 2008 12:42 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/04/BA4H13BMT3.DTL DID FOSSETT HAVE 'DEATH WISH' ? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1068812/Steve-Fossett-death-wish-guilt-marriage-finances.html The ELT Wristwatch Fossett Left Behind at the Ranch in Yerington , Nevada : http://www.breitling.com/orbiter/breit97/eng/emerg.html
Quote:Hasley said Fossett was unhappy about having his adventures sponsored. ‘Though he never admitted it, maybe he also was under financial pressure. ‘As the cost of his planes and balloons mounted, he told me he decided to accept sponsorship. Now the world records he broke were stamped with the names of other people’s companies, like Virgin Atlantic and Budweiser.
Sunday, October 5, 2008 9:51 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:...a frakkin BILLIONAIRE with a PRIVATE ISLAND FULL OF NAKED WHORES!
Sunday, October 5, 2008 11:33 AM
Quote:Specifications (2006 8KCAB Super Decathlon) Service ceiling 15,800 ft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Champion_Decathlon Experts say Fossett’s plane was not designed for flying over mountain ranges. Mike Day, a veteran pilot from Reno, Nevada, said of the 180-horsepower plane: ‘The higher you go, the less power your engine has.’ Last night Fossett’s sister said she did not believe he took his own life. Speaking at her home in Lincoln, northern California, Linda Dansby said: ‘I can’t come up with any reason why an expert pilot like him would have crashed at all. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1068812/Steve-Fossett-death-wish-guilt-marriage-finances.html
Sunday, October 5, 2008 11:37 AM
OLDENGLANDDRY
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: That's the most insane thing I've ever heard. BK.
Sunday, October 5, 2008 11:38 AM
AURAPTOR
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Quote:piratenews wrote: Sunday, October 05, 2008 16:02 No critters eat bones. Where's his bones?
Sunday, October 5, 2008 11:20 PM
KHYRON
Monday, October 6, 2008 8:42 AM
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