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Where they get their talking points

POSTED BY: RUE
UPDATED: Thursday, October 16, 2008 19:16
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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:24 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Well, Signym no one can master your expert understanding of the word “decides.”

Talk about evading the argument with ad hominem! It's not just me, Finn. Gawd, you ARE a tool!

Lookit, just admit to yourself that you're wrong, drop it and move on.

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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:30 AM

WHOZIT

Here's where the press whores get there talking points! http://www.drudgereport.com/flashotp.htm

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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 5:54 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Here is PM Tony' Blair's implicit understanding that Resolutions typically supersede each other, and that R1441 supersedes previous resolutions (which is why he was so unhappy with R1441 and its implementation)

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Prime Minister Blair: ... So when people say haven't we exhausted all the diplomatic avenues, we tried exhausting. But understand from our perspective and from the perspective of the security of the world, we cannot simply go back to the Security Council, for this discussion to be superseded by that discussion, to be superseded by another discussion. That's what's happened for 12 years. ...

www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/rm/18757.htm

NOW is it a dead topic???

Finn...?

Rapo....?
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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:24 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

McCain talking points:

Funny that it reflects what MSM was saying. BTW - please keep in mind these are 'TALKING POINTS' ONLY and not statements of fact. In reality, McCain had NOT contacted the Obama campaign, did NOT call for bipartisan meetings, did NOT have the authority to do anything (except pose with the President), and voted FOR the bill he claims to not have supported.
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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:08 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by rue:
McCain talking points:

Funny that it reflects what MSM was saying. BTW - please keep in mind these are 'TALKING POINTS' ONLY and not statements of fact. In reality, McCain had NOT contacted the Obama campaign, did NOT call for bipartisan meetings, did NOT have the authority to do anything (except pose with the President), and voted FOR the bill he claims to not have supported.
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Also, McCain's campaign neither stopped advertising nor fundraising efforts. They DID pretty much stop fundraising, but that's only because no one is supporting a dead campaign anymore. No sense putting any more lipstick on that dead pig. ;)

Mike

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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:57 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by SignyM:

So everyone agrees except you. And you are the ultimate expert.... how????

Because what you're saying has been superseded, obviously....

Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:15 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Well, Signym no one can master your expert understanding of the word “decides.”
Talk about evading the argument with ad hominem! It's not just me, Finn. Gawd, you ARE a tool!.

You need to look this word up. Calling you on your faulty argument is not an ad hominem. You calling me a tool is.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Finn, what happened to your common sense? The meaning of R1441 and its citations is clear. It was clear to me, it was clear to the WH, and it was clear to Tony Blair. Shall I quote them again for you?

Ah, what the heck... Why not?

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Prime Minister Blair: "... So when people say haven't we exhausted all the diplomatic avenues, we tried exhausting. But understand from our perspective and from the perspective of the security of the world, we cannot simply go back to the Security Council, for this discussion to be superseded by that discussion, to be superseded by another discussion. That's what's happened for 12 years. ..."

You see? Even Blair says that the various resolutions were superseding each other. You, OTOH, have got - nothing- supporting your position any member nation could decide on its own to enforce whatever resolution they chose at whatever time they chose.
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Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:26 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

So you agree with Bush and Blair. It’s nice to see you finally come around.

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I also agree with the rest of the UN: Resolution 1441 superseded the previous Resolutions. And because Resolution 1441 DID NOT authorize invading Iraq, the US invasion WAS NOT IN ANY WAY authorized by the UN.

Glad you see my point!

And quite frankly, any further argument on this point is only going to make you look dumber than a sack of rocks. And I know you're smarter than that!

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:43 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

You agree with Bush and Blair.

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

On the point that R 1441 superseded previous Resolutions: Yes.

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:28 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

I see. So where the Iraq War is concerned you agree with Bush. That's all I wanted to know.

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:33 PM

RUE

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Finn

You seem really desperate.

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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So where the Iraq War is concerned you agree with Bush.

Wow! Where did you get THAT from? Oh yeah... it was your own desperate brain talking to you!

To painstakingly clarify: I agree with Bush and Blair that the UN Resolutions concerning Iraq superseded each other. I disagree with them on almost every other point they made about Iraq.

Finn, man. Take a deep breath and calm down. You're going to regret burning your credibility and respect on that ridiculous argument. The only point you're making right now is that you're either drunk or you've gone off a mental cliff.

Let it go.

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:43 PM

KWICKO

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I see. So where the Iraq War is concerned you agree with Bush. That's all I wanted to know.

Seems that where Bush and the Iraq War are concerned, the White House agrees with the UN that the invasion and occupation of Iraq were not sanctioned.

So I guess that means Bush agrees with US.

Looks like you're left out in the cold, Finn.

Mike

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:52 PM

MALBADINLATIN

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Originally posted by rue:
Finn

You seem really desperate.

I can't speak for Finn, but even Dickhead Morris just said on Bill O' that if McCain hammers on taxes he my gain a few points everyday then overtake Obama.

Only desperate Conservatives would need to believe that enough to consider it part of reality.

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:59 PM

KWICKO

Don't forget 'Rappy's talking point that ninety-five percent of us don't pay any income tax whatsoever! THAT should get them some votes!

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:16 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

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Originally posted by rue:
Finn

You seem really desperate.

Really? You seem desperate for having said that.

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