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Originally posted by AURaptor:
He says , if you make less than $250,000, you won't see any tax incrases, That's a lie. In 2010, Bush's tax cuts expire, and taxes will automatically reset to Clinton era , higher taxes.

You'll pay HIGHER taxes, and that's a fact.



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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Ok, since no one answered it in any other thread...


WHY DONT WE CUT TAXES TO 1% FOR EVERYONE? THE RICH WILL STILL PAY MORE, THE POOR WILL NOW PAY MUCH LESS...

PLUS, IT WOULD BE F A I R.

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He says , if you make less than $250,000, you won't see any tax incrases, That's a lie. In 2010, Bush's tax cuts expire, and taxes will automatically reset to Clinton era , higher taxes.

You'll pay HIGHER taxes, and that's a fact.

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WHY is it unrealistic?

Yes, the government would get less of our money...but thats a GOOD thing.

Less money means SMALLER government.

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Originally posted by rue:
Numbers are not your thing, I take it ? Please, show me the increase.

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Ok, so what exactly is wrong with a 1% flat tax on income across the board?

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PhoenixRose wrote:
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From what I've gathered, the plan is to allow the tax cuts on millionaires to expire, while extending tax cuts on everyone else, further cutting taxes on lower-income households, eliminating taxes on social security payouts to seniors, etc.

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Ok, so what exactly is wrong with a 1% flat tax on income across the board?

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Does anyone here know what percentage of total income the current amount of taxes constitute? Because I don't know.



But I think people would more readily respond if your idea of an equal tax was not automatically linked to a radical decrease in overall taxation, because that's two different discussions rolled together.

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Ok, since no one answered it in any other thread...


WHY DONT WE CUT TAXES TO 1% FOR EVERYONE? THE RICH WILL STILL PAY MORE, THE POOR WILL NOW PAY MUCH LESS...

PLUS, IT WOULD BE F A I R.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
He says , if you make less than $250,000, you won't see any tax incrases, That's a lie. In 2010, Bush's tax cuts expire, and taxes will automatically reset to Clinton era , higher taxes.

You'll pay HIGHER taxes, and that's a fact.

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Am I going to strike it rich by finding natural gas in my backyard? Confused by the question? Just look into that same crystal ball you used to predict events in 2010 and let me know. How crazy is calling events in 2010 fact?

Nothing happens "automatically" in Washington. What do you think HAL is going to sieze control? The President and Congress can make taxes anything they want including preventing them from becomming HIGHER taxes.

The Government could run on less than half of the income the have now, but Republicans and Democrats are not the ones that will fascilitate any transitions in that direction. So I got news for you..."Read my lips, no new taxes"...with McCain...your taxes are gonna go up too, they just don't know it yet.

Your OP on this thread is just like the last five minutes of Fox News I watched, and they, like you, are becoming increasingly delusional in your desperation for something shocking enough to stop the hemorhaging of moderate votes from the McCain campaign. As usual, no offense.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Ok, so what exactly is wrong with a 1% flat tax on income across the board?

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Monday, October 27, 2008 08:44
From what I've gathered, the plan is to allow the tax cuts on millionaires to expire, while extending tax cuts on everyone else, further cutting taxes on lower-income households, eliminating taxes on social security payouts to seniors, etc.

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Bush's tax cuts weren't JUST for millionaires, so the premise you're attempting to present if a false one.

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PhoenixRose wrote:
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From what I've gathered, the plan is to allow the tax cuts on millionaires to expire, while extending tax cuts on everyone else, further cutting taxes on lower-income households, eliminating taxes on social security payouts to seniors, etc.

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Bush's tax cuts weren't JUST for millionaires, so the premise you're attempting to present if a false one.

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If that's true, then, the entire premise of this thread - i.e. that when the tax cuts expire, everyone's taxes go up - is a false one.


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Originally posted by rue:
Oh, so you're not talking about Obama's actual tax PLAN, you're talking about something you made up.

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Pelosi and Reed will be standing on either side to make sure he doesn't color outside the lines.

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Pelosi and Reed will be standing on either side to make sure he doesn't color outside the lines.

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Pelosi and Reed will be standing on either side to make sure he doesn't color outside the lines.

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BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Hero, I don't agree with everything you say, but I'll defend with my life your right to make me laugh.

Chrisisall

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Think about voting for the "other guys" to control Congress!

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Pelosi and Reed will be standing on either side to make sure he doesn't color outside the lines.

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I find it odd that even the Republicans here have taken it as a given that the Democrats are going to gain seats in the House and Senate, that Pelosi will still be the Speaker of the House, or that Reid will maintain his leadership position.

Personally (and many a jaw may drop when I say this), I'm strongly considering voting for Republican Senators and Representatives, and I'd support others doing the same. In many cases, we get the BEST law out of Washington when we have gridlock between the Legislative and Executive branches, instead of having a Rubber-Stamp Congress like Bush had prior to 2006 and Clinton had before 1994. Those "anything-goes" legislatures do the people (that's you and me) no good at all, and often get us into deeper shit than we can easily extricate ourselves from.

If you think it's a foregone conclusion that Obama's going to win the White House, consider putting some checks on his ass right quick, as Frem would agree. Think about voting for the "other guys" to control Congress! It's your patriotic duty!

Mike

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Originally posted by rue:
doooooood ... the plan that's ALREADY written on his website.

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Sorry, I misread as 'Bush's tax cuts were just for millionaires' because I erroneously assumed you were trying to use logic, i.e. if the tax cuts were only for millionaires, letting those expire and extending the cuts of everyone else would be a false premise to present. I should have known better.

Yes, the tax cuts were not just for millionaires. So, extending the tax cuts on everyone else (we all know what extending means, right?) and further cutting taxes for those of us down at the very bottom of the wage scale, while allowing the tax cuts on millionaires to expire... is the plan. As far as I have read. I do not see how this is a false premise.

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I don't think that's a bad idea at all, but see... do you know who Marylin Musgrave is? There is no way I could in good conscience vote for that woman. Indeed, the most electric moment I had while filling out my ballot was when I finally, finally, got to vote against her. She has been here for far, far too fuckin long. And she is evil. Out of her mind with evil.

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