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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I have to wonder what it is you've been reading.

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You MUST confront the reality that many here get that from what you post, you MUST realize that you must take SOME credit for that, wanted or not.

Therapistisall
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As Inigo Montoaya kept saying to Vizzini ...

I do not believe that word means what you think it means

POINT ? Y'all might be reading my post, but you sure as heck aren't getting my meaning.






It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Originally posted by rue:

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You sultry minx.

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Well, HEY ! - I'm exactly like Zoe - just a little paler, shorter, older, dumpier, with grey hair and trifocals and out of shape ... so other than that ...

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Originally posted by rue:
:looks down at ground, scuffs feet:

Well, I could be ... I could ...

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Chris, I sympathize. I had the same crisis with Piratenews. I decided that his stupidities had to be challenged, that his vile racism had to be opposed. He is the only person on these boards who has ever upset me to the point that I railed unkindly (at least as far as I can recall) and lost control of my temper.

I don't think I had one iota of impact. Someone else, unseen by me, shared some quieter words with the man. That seems to have improved his disposition. Though I suspect the root of who he is cannot be cured, because it's who he is. There will always be a Nazi Jew lurking just around the corner of that man's mind, sacrificing virgins to Moloch in Bohemian Grove.

You can't demand that people change. In fact, the harder you push, the less likely they are to change. They are forced into a defensive posture where they entrench themselves. Once you're defending yourself, the logic of your arguments means less than winning does. It must be some side effect of the survival instinct, twisted by the computer of the human brain.

Speak gently. Argue well, but calmly. And when your opponent begins to change his mind, don't leap in his face and laugh at him. Or accuse him of being wishy-washy. Encourage him kindly, warmly, into the fold.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Originally posted by WASHnwear:
There are several voices in this forum I respect, but yours is always the most measured, reasoned, and - generally-speaking - forgiving.

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Originally posted by WASHnwear:
There are several voices in this forum I respect, but yours is always the most measured, reasoned, and - generally-speaking - forgiving.

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Seconded.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

From another thread:

AURaptor:
That's what governments are for. To get in a man's way - Captain Mal Reynolds

Chrisisall:
Oh, but it hasn't been for getting in a man's way during the past administration, just the upcoming one, right?

I have no illusions; Malcolm Reynolds would have little use for me, he'd see me as dreamer- someone with unrealistic hopes for what government could do FOR it's peeps, but YOU...
He'd flat out view you as an Alliance toady, and you can't even see that. What do you think? If you could talk to Mal, you think he'd see you as some sort of independent? The way you spout off against freedom? The way you back up the neo-fascist curtailing of civil & international human rights? The way you rationalize every Republican-initiated military adventure?
Face it AU, you're a regular Hands Of Blue kinda guy. Until you wake up & smell what you shovel, the only person from the Firefly 'verse you could hold a lasting conversation with would be Jubal Early, and that would be mainly 'cause he likes to hear himself talk.

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Would Mal see a Conservative as some some sort of Independent? Most certainly not! Inside of ten minutes Mal would understand that the kind of freedom a Conservative talks about has nothing to with freedom from oppression and persecution, or human rights, but that he's just talking about the freedom to accumulate as much wealth as he can, having to share it with as few people as possible. Mal, however, has folks with him who do for each other and ain't always looking for the advantage. Mal would see right through the 'freedom' speech!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I completely disagree. Your distortions of what makes a 'conservative' are the root of the problem, imo.

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This issue of wealth, and " having to share it with as few people as possible " smacks as Obama's spreading the wealth comment.

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btw...... Chrissy? Why the title change ?

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Not 'Conservative', IMO, 'NEO-Conservative'. Conservatives, real ones, can be very cool, Neos cannnot.

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This issue of wealth, and " having to share it with as few people as possible " smacks as Obama's spreading the wealth comment.

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'Spreading the wealth' is NOT just taking tax money and GIVING it to peeps, but whatever- I guess I'm resigned to hearing this same crap over & over for the next four years or so.

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Hey, the big O said it, don't blame me.

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Hey, the big O said it, don't blame me.

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It's not what he said, it's your predictably far right interpretation of it that irks me.

You call yourself a Conservative, yet your boy Bush conserved nothing.
He bloated government, pissed our money away on his pet project (Iraq), pissed away MORE money on Blackwater mercs to the tune of $1000 per day per man x 400,000, he squandered our international good name *typing cramps set in* I could go on, but...I won't.

Just that you seem more in line with the Neos...correct me if I am mistaken.

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It's EXACTLY what he said, and you know it. Our good name ? Spare me, if you mean those who are beholden to that den of thieves at the U.N. The only way most of the world will like us is if we became a 3rd world back water hell hole, like they are.

No thank you!



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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i guess i'd quailify as a Neo-Con. Is it supposed to be an insult?

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i guess i'd quailify as a Neo-Con. Is it supposed to be an insult?

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No more so than 'Nazi', I guess.
See, REAL NeoCons like the idea of flexing military muscle, if for no other reason than to remind others just exactly whose New World Order it is.

Sure you're one of those?

Chrisisall
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I suppose the short answer about Neo Cons is this: Someone's going to rule the world, why shouldn't it be us ?

Or, put another way, who'd you want projecting most of the influence onto the world's affairs

1. Russia
2. China
3. Islamic Fascist
4. United States of America.

Beyond that, I got nothin.








It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Or, put another way, who'd you want projecting most of the influence onto the world's affairs

1. Russia
2. China
3. Islamic Fascist
4. United States of America.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I suppose the short answer about Neo Cons is this: Someone's going to rule the world, why shouldn't it be us ?

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Originally posted by rue:

It was from 2007 but it was so unusual I kept it. Anyway, I thought it would be an interesting angle on the thread.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Ok, Rue.

We get it.

Bitter, angry, ect ect.

Obama won.

Let it go.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Again, the winner/loser mentality. Why can't we have equal say (except for your beloved Islamic Fascists, who are not a world power)?

Anyway, do you not watch the show? The US & China will come out on top.

Chrisisall

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Did Stalin allow for 'equal say' ? DId Mao ' ponder the voice of the people ?

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Would Mal see a Conservative as some some sort of Independent? Most certainly not! Inside of ten minutes Mal would understand that the kind of freedom a Conservative talks about...to accumulate as much wealth as he can, having to share it with as few people as possible.

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Every character on that ship was a conservative. It was the "better world" liberal Alliance types that were the problem. There's a reason why liberals are concentrated on Universities, in cities and in the American northeast and conservatives are out in what was the frontier of the American west.

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Did Stalin allow for 'equal say' ? DId Mao ' ponder the voice of the people ?

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Yes. You're right of course. Stalin & Mao must be kept from working their mojo on todays' world stage....

Chrisisall

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You're such a boob.

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