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the rest of the vehicle behind.



The 'super leap' of the Hulk bothers me. He makes individual leaps that take him miles away. The hulk is big, m'kay? But lets pretend he only weighs 200 pounds. How much energy does it take to launch a 200 pound object, say, five miles?

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The 'super breath' of Superman also gets my goat. I don't care how strong he is, his lungs have a rather limited capacity.

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Yes, I been waitin for an excuse to use that one, heheheheh.

I don't hate em like most Convention goers, as explained before I tend to wind up herding the little monsters by the end of the day when everyone else is too ploshed to watch em, and the image of the grim reaper doing the pied piper thing with a train of bratty little catgirls is always amusing to some.

Anyhows.. one of my favorite nitpicks, nicely subverted by Hancock, was how the hell do you pay for all that mess.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeroInsurance

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Super Heros never have to pay for the mess they make, it's one of the perks.

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The 'super leap' of the Hulk bothers me. He makes individual leaps that take him miles away. The hulk is big, m'kay? But lets pretend he only weighs 200 pounds. How much energy does it take to launch a 200 pound object, say, five miles? Rue, can you help me out here?

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If Superman could change his specific gravity, then he'd do a whole bunch of things that look a lot like feats of strength, that really aren't. It would also account for his being able to pick up a whole car by the grill.

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Hello,

Well, if he could change the weight of the object he was picking up, I guess it would be less of a strain on the object to support its own weight. Hence, it would be less likely to break apart.

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Hello,

Well, if he could change the weight of the object he was picking up, I guess it would be less of a strain on the object to support its own weight. Hence, it would be less likely to break apart.

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Change the mass of the bus? HK said changing superman’s mass, not the bus, but perhaps that’s what he meant. If the bus had less mass, but retained its stress integrity, then perhaps. But there would be responses to that. For instance a bus with a low enough mass that it could be picked up by its grill, would respond to atmosphere conditions. Like throwing a piece of styrofoam, it wouldn’t travel far and could exhibit wild variations in attitude. Furthermore, it wouldn’t have the mass to damage anything it came in contact with upon landing. Also there would be strange effects, because fundamental changes in mass creates a force, the same way fundamental changes in velocity create force.

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Well, the leverage issue would be solved if he weighed a good deal more than the bus I was thinking. The guy is able to make his body stong and hard as steal or supple as flesh, it would seem, so something weird is going on there. Beyond that, I'm thinking about Superman increasing his own gravitational field, artificially if you will, manipulating it in a conscious way to affect the bus, so the bus would be gravitationally attracted to him. The field of this gravity would be under the control of Superman's conscious will, naturally, so he could focus it on the bus in his hands alone and not the overall gravity of the planet around him. This kind of power would be handy and could account for any number of godlike abilities.

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Hello,

Well, if he could change the weight of the object he was picking up, I guess it would be less of a strain on the object to support its own weight. Hence, it would be less likely to break apart.

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Change the mass of the bus? HK said changing superman’s mass, not the bus, but perhaps that’s what he meant. If the bus had less mass, but retained its stress integrity, then perhaps. But there would be responses to that. For instance a bus with a low enough mass that it could be picked up by its grill, would respond to atmosphere conditions. Like throwing a piece of styrofoam, it wouldn’t travel far and could exhibit wild variations in attitude. Furthermore, it wouldn’t have the mass to damage anything it came in contact with upon landing. Also there would be strange effects, because fundamental changes in mass creates a force, the same way fundamental changes in velocity create force.

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Hello,

Well, if he could change the weight of the object he was picking up, I guess it would be less of a strain on the object to support its own weight. Hence, it would be less likely to break apart.

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Change the mass of the bus? HK said changing superman’s mass, not the bus, but perhaps that’s what he meant. If the bus had less mass, but retained its stress integrity, then perhaps. But there would be responses to that. For instance a bus with a low enough mass that it could be picked up by its grill, would respond to atmosphere conditions. Like throwing a piece of styrofoam, it wouldn’t travel far and could exhibit wild variations in attitude. Furthermore, it wouldn’t have the mass to damage anything it came in contact with upon landing. Also there would be strange effects, because fundamental changes in mass creates a force, the same way fundamental changes in velocity create force.

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...umm aren't weight and Mass different things??

weight has to do with the effect of gravity on the object, and mass has to do with how much of a substance there is.. granted mass X of sustance Y weighs Z on earth, but an equal mass of subtance Y would only weigh 1/6 Z on the moon.
at least that's what I learned in High School...

therefore if he could alter the effect of the gravitational feild on a object, the bus in question could be relatively light weight and this ability to effect local gravitational feilds would explain the method of locomotion in levitation not sure about directiional flight, I never took a physics class.
( but i do think he would tend to just rip off the bumper of the bus rather than pick the whole darn thing up...)

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Hello,

Well, if he could change the weight of the object he was picking up, I guess it would be less of a strain on the object to support its own weight. Hence, it would be less likely to break apart.

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Hello,

Well, if he could change the weight of the object he was picking up, I guess it would be less of a strain on the object to support its own weight. Hence, it would be less likely to break apart.

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Change the mass of the bus? HK said changing superman’s mass, not the bus, but perhaps that’s what he meant. If the bus had less mass, but retained its stress integrity, then perhaps. But there would be responses to that. For instance a bus with a low enough mass that it could be picked up by its grill, would respond to atmosphere conditions. Like throwing a piece of styrofoam, it wouldn’t travel far and could exhibit wild variations in attitude. Furthermore, it wouldn’t have the mass to damage anything it came in contact with upon landing. Also there would be strange effects, because fundamental changes in mass creates a force, the same way fundamental changes in velocity create force.

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Well, the leverage issue would be solved if he weighed a good deal more than the bus I was thinking. The guy is able to make his body stong and hard as steal or supple as flesh, it would seem, so something weird is going on there. Beyond that, I'm thinking about Superman increasing his own gravitational field, artificially if you will, manipulating it in a conscious way to affect the bus, so the bus would be gravitationally attracted to him. The field of this gravity would be under the control of Superman's conscious will, naturally, so he could focus it on the bus in his hands alone and not the overall gravity of the planet around him. This kind of power would be handy and could account for any number of godlike abilities.

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...umm aren't weight and Mass different things??

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An object weighs what it weighs because of its mass.

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An object weighs what it weighs because of its mass.

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And the gravitational field in which it finds itself. If there's no local gravity, an object doesn't weigh anything, although it still has mass.

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An object weighs what it weighs because of its mass.

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And the gravitational field in which it finds itself. If there's no local gravity, an object doesn't weigh anything, although it still has mass.

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Finn-
Again I never went past High school Chemistry,or algebra 2( which i wasn't too hot at mind you) but your mass/gravity correlations do not seem to make much sense. what you are saying is that buy changing the local gravitational field around an object, you have reduced the amount of atoms in the object????

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what you are saying is that buy changing the local gravitational field around an object, you have reduced the amount of atoms in the object????

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To change a gravitational field, you must change the mass that gravity is associated with.

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To change a gravitational field, you must change the mass that gravity is associated with.

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Gravity is a property of mass, so if you want a certain mass to be less effected by gravity, then you have to do something to that mass in order for that to be the case. Right?

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Gravity is a property of mass, so if you want a certain mass to be less effected by gravity, then you have to do something to that mass in order for that to be the case. Right?

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A graviton inhibitor would do it without needing to alter mass...but that's something I'm still working on. Have any dough you'd like to invest?

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Well, I’m not sure how a graviton inhibitor would work, but if the name is any indication then I’m assuming your inhibiting the gravitons from the mass, which means you probably are effecting the mass in some way.

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BTW, how could Steve Austin pick a car's back end up off the ground without tearing the bionic arm out of his shoulder?
I- I just never got that....

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Gravity is a property of mass. And the Earth’s gravity is generated by the Earth. The bus’ gravity is generated by the bus. The two attract each other. If you change the bus’ gravity, you’ve changed its mass, not the Earth. If you change the Earth’s gravity, then you’ll affect everything on the earth. So it really is the mass of the bus that is being manipulated.

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a prosthetic limbs weakest link is where it connects to the flesh

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- He shields the bus from the gravitational field of Earth. It maintains the same mass, making it harder to spin up (unless he can vector gravity to give an assist) and the bus still has full mass as it flies out of the range of the gravity shield across the city.

You know, for the Superman flying aspect, gravity control, rather than mass control, seems a more likely method. If Superman can either shield from or intensify the force of gravity, he can basically push or pull himself around, with no additional propulsion needed.

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You know, for the Superman flying aspect, gravity control, rather than mass control, seems a more likely method. If Superman can either shield from or intensify the force of gavity, he can basically push or pull himself around, whith no additional propulsion needed.

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By distorting the space around him, superman could contract the space in front of him, thereby causing him to move rapidly and effortlessly.

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