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House Committee on the Judiciary Majority Staff Report to Chairman John Conyers, Jr.

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Hmmm .... not paying some income tax vs torture, illegal spying, lying the US into two wars, outing a CIA agent and ruining a multi-year operation to gain information on IRAN's nuclear capability, politically motivated prosecution, abuse of power ...

Rap, your lack of honesty is showing ... yet again.


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Hmmm .... not paying some income tax vs torture, illegal spying, lying the US into two wars, outing a CIA agent and ruining a multi-year operation to gain information on IRAN's nuclear capability, politically motivated prosecution, abuse of power ...

Rap, your lack of honesty is showing ... yet again.

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I do pity you.
p.s. FMF - I pity you as well. Sad that you're as deluded as rue.

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"I can't respond to your post because all your claims are 100% pure BULL SHIT."

Well, then. Rap said so, so it must be so --- just like that ROARING economy. Eh Rap ?

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Hey! I'm deluded too! Don't leave me out of your disappointment!


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Intelligence Court Rules Wiretapping Power Legal

By ERIC LICHTBLAU
Published: January 15, 2009
WASHINGTON — A federal intelligence court, in a rare public opinion, is expected to issue a major ruling validating the power of the president and Congress to wiretap international phone calls and intercept e-mail messages without a court order, even when Americans’ private communications may be involved, according to a person with knowledge of the opinion.

The court decision, made in December by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, is expected to be disclosed as early as Thursday in an unclassified, redacted form, the person said. The review court has issued only two other rulings in its 30-year history.

The decision marks the first time since the disclosure of the National Security Agency’s warrantless eavesdropping program three years ago that an appellate court has addressed the constitutionality of the federal government’s wiretapping powers. In validating the government’s wide authority to collect foreign intelligence, it may offer legal credence to the Bush administration’s repeated assertions that the president has constitutional authority to act without specific court approval in ordering national security eavesdropping.

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Warrantless Wiretaps Not Used, Official Says

By JAMES RISEN
Published: September 19, 2007
WASHINGTON, Sept. 18 — The National Security Agency has not conducted wiretapping without warrants on the telephones of any Americans since at least February, the nation’s top intelligence officer told Congress on Tuesday.

Mike McConnell, the director of national intelligence, told the House Judiciary Committee that since he took office that month, the government has conducted electronic surveillance only after seeking court-approved warrants.

In January, the Bush administration announced that it had agreed to allow a secret intelligence court to oversee the N.S.A.’s eavesdropping program, and that it would comply with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the 30-year-old law that regulates the government’s domestic spying activities. The administration’s decision appeared to end the basis for the warrantless wiretapping program secretly begun by President Bush just after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Mr. McConnell’s testimony Tuesday was the first time he has publicly said that the warrantless wiretapping of Americans has actually been ended. It came just as the Democratic-controlled Congress is preparing for yet another legislative battle over how to update the nation’s foremost surveillance law, a subject that President Bush is scheduled to discuss Wednesday when he visits N.S.A. headquarters at Fort Meade, Md.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/washington/19nsa.html?_r=1

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"I can't respond to your post because all your claims are 100% pure BULL SHIT."

Well, then. Rap said so, so it must be so --- just like that ROARING economy. Eh Rap ?

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I guess the roaring 20's weren't really the roaring 20's because of the great depression, huh?

4.7% unemployment IS a roaring economy, any way you look at it.

You're a moron.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Hey! I'm deluded too! Don't leave me out of your disappointment!


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Anyone who believes the shit that rue is shoveling also believes the Earth is flat, 6,000 yrs old and man lived w/ Dinosaurs.

I turst you're not THAT fucking gullible and confused, Chris.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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I guess the economy was ROARING in 1930 so there was no Great Depression --- eh, Rap ?

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Logical fallacy, on your part. The economy BEFORE I made the statement you routinely repeat out of context was in reference to the years BEFORE the economic down turn in the end of '08. You're trying to attatch my words of the months and years AFTER the drop to the current and subsequent economic conditions.

You're lying, as usual, again. I've come to expect as much from you.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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No that would be Sarah Palin....not our Rue

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Dude, the depression was 1929....um.... at the END of the 20's.

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However, before that, the 'roaring 20's', as it was called, was a time of considerable economic upswing.

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Again, you've fallen for a wide spread Liberal lie, much like the Tina Fey comment where, impersonating Gov Palin, she says " I can see Russia from my house ! " Many idiots think that Gov Palin really said that, and not Tina Fey.

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What Rap is saying that if you look at a small enough slice of time, in just the right way, and ignoring everything else, you'll find even the Great Depression goes away under the FACT of a booming economy !

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Again, you've fallen for a wide spread Liberal lie, much like the Tina Fey comment where, impersonating Gov Palin, she says " I can see Russia from my house ! " Many idiots think that Gov Palin really said that, and not Tina Fey.

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So what was it, exactly, that Sarah Palin DID say on that subject?


Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Geezer

The written statement by Susan J. Crawford, convening authority of the military commissions at Guantanamo Bay and a military lawyer, has been called an admision, a conclusion, and a determination. Not an allegation.

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No that would be Sarah Palin....not our Rue

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Again, you've fallen for a wide spread Liberal lie, much like the Tina Fey comment where, impersonating Gov Palin, she says " I can see Russia from my house ! " Many idiots think that Gov Palin really said that, and not Tina Fey.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Get an admission ffrom Bush, Cheney, et. al. or have a trial. Otherwise, they're just allegations

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It was a caricature and intelligent people of the left and the right recognize it as such. Those that wish to spread hate and discontent erroneously accuse others of actually believeing it.

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It was a caricature and intelligent people of the left and the right recognize it as such. Those that wish to spread hate and discontent erroneously accuse others of actually believeing it.

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Tell that to Matt Damon.



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Dude, the depression was 1929....um.... at the END of the 20's.

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Your point? The Great Depression started in October, 1929. Yes, that's in the 20's However, before that, the 'roaring 20's', as it was called, was a time of considerable economic upswing. The Great Depression lasted through the decade of the 30's, up until the start of WW2.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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I was speaking of Tina Fey, not Matt Damon - I believe you will find that Matt Damon was ASKING if she believed that Dinosaurs roamed the earth with man. Also, I think that perhaps he said what he said BEFORE Tina Fey.

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Rue ,

To what do you attribute those numbers to Clinton's policies. What specifically did he DO which impacted the economy. Please.

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Chris, not only am I asking for facts to back up "her" claims, your post reminds me once again that rue is a chick

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Actually Auratpor’s got a point. Rue’s argument about the economy has always been to scream that it’s bad until it goes bad, and then she says, “See. I told ya!!!” And so rue takes enormous pride in the fact that she can compare 2001 and 2009 and finally, after 10 years of screaming about the economy, she’s finally right. But if you compare 2001 to 2008…

In 2008 unemployment was 4.9%. And the DOW was in the 12000s.

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The whole world's in such flux, it's ridiculous to say that the economy is good or bad... is the tide in or out? Is it colder or warmer than usual? Are there more gamma rays today than yesterday?

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