Anusol for the monkey....... by AURaptor

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
citizen, it's clear w/ every post you make , you show your ignornce on US politcs. This has ZERO to do w/ McCain or any of his alleged " propaganda ". McCain GAVE no propaganda, and it's one reason he lost the election. He ran too NICE, and everyone, from both sides, agree.

It's clear you didn't even look at the video. It was from 2004, not 2008. You have no idea of what you're talking about. All you do is take what I say, flip it on its head, and repeat it back. McCain wasn't and never WILL be the leader of the GOP. Just as Kerry was never the LEADER of the Dems, they both were simply defacto winners of their party's election process. But your simplistic view of the US political process falsly assumes that anything anti Democrat HAD to come from McCain. Hell, McCain was the Liberal NYT's choice back when his campaign was failing because the Left saw McCain as who he was, a RINO.

Please, do yourself a favor and stop simply reacting to post in which you have no business posting.

Ahh, personal insults, the last resort of someone proven wrong.

Give it up, you've got no case. The fact you can't bring up a counter argument to what I said, or any real facts, indicates you know it too

.

Also McCain's campaign made a big song and dance about how it's all ACRON's fault. IF you'd been paying attention, you'd have noticed that...

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:31 AM

ELVISCHRIST

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citizen, it's clear w/ every post you make , you show your ignornce on US politcs. This has ZERO to do w/ McCain or any of his alleged " propaganda ". McCain GAVE no propaganda, and it's one reason he lost the election. He ran too NICE, and everyone, from both sides, agree.

Oh, horseshit. Sitting there and smiling while people yell "terrorist!" in response to any mention of Obama isn't "playing nice".

Don't tell me that my ship is coming in...
Time's running out the door you're running in.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:40 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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AuLapdog wrote:

...you show your ignornce on US politcs.

And once again, when Lapdog resorts to insulting another's intelligence, he utterly fails.

Lapdog, your "ignornce" is showing.

Again.

You have no case.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:48 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
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citizen, it's clear w/ every post you make , you show your ignornce on US politcs. This has ZERO to do w/ McCain or any of his alleged " propaganda ". McCain GAVE no propaganda, and it's one reason he lost the election. He ran too NICE, and everyone, from both sides, agree.

Oh, horseshit. Sitting there and smiling while people yell "terrorist!" in response to any mention of Obama isn't "playing nice".

Don't tell me that my ship is coming in...
Time's running out the door you're running in.

No one yelled " terrorist " That story was a myth, fabricated by a Liberal reporter. And it was at a Palin, not McCain rally. Get your fairy tales straight if you're gonna use them here.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:52 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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LORDRaptor wrote:

...you show your ignornce on US politcs.

And once again, when Lapdog resorts to insulting another's intelligence, he utterly fails.

LORDRaptor, your "ignornce" is showing.

It's not an insult if it's true.

citizen clearly did not look at or comment on the video link posted. - FACT

McCain wasn't using " Rovian " tactics, what ever the hell those are suppose to be, during the campaign. So, any claim that a criticism towards the Left wing Dems came from McCain during the campaign is patently false.

He clearly has no clue what he's talking about. That makes him IGNORANT.

I didn't even say he was stupid or suggest he had a lack of intellect. I simply said he was uninformed. And YOU folks are ignorant of what a " personal insult " really is. Which is amazing, since you hurl them at others so damn often.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:55 AM

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Which is amazing, since you hurl them at others so damn often.

Yes, I routinely blow up at Rue, Signy, and Chris, yelling at them and typing in all caps, calling them things like "FUCKING DUMASS!!!" and "Cunt-face".

That sounds just like me...

Oh, wait - that was YOU doing that.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:56 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

No one yelled " terrorist " That story was a myth, fabricated by a Liberal reporter. And it was at a Palin, not McCain rally. Get your fairy tales straight if you're gonna use them here.

To clear up your inornce (ignoence? ignominius?):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/mccain-does-nothing-as-cr_n_1
32366.html

Both videos seem to show you are wrong, but you'll no doubt say that I have no case

.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:02 AM

ELVISCHRIST

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
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citizen, it's clear w/ every post you make , you show your ignornce on US politcs. This has ZERO to do w/ McCain or any of his alleged " propaganda ". McCain GAVE no propaganda, and it's one reason he lost the election. He ran too NICE, and everyone, from both sides, agree.

Oh, horseshit. Sitting there and smiling while people yell "terrorist!" in response to any mention of Obama isn't "playing nice".

Don't tell me that my ship is coming in...
Time's running out the door you're running in.

No one yelled " terrorist " That story was a myth, fabricated by a Liberal reporter. And it was at a Palin, not McCain rally. Get your fairy tales straight if you're gonna use them here.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

Wrong, and wrong again.

Watch the video:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/mccain-does-nothing-as-cr_n_1
32366.html

Look at the second video down, the one where McCAIN is the one at the rally, not Palin. Listen to the crowd when he asks "Who is the REAL Barack Obama?" The response? "Terrorist!"

Get your facts straight before you start talking your usual line of hardcore partisan bullshit.

Don't tell me that my ship is coming in...
Time's running out the door you're running in.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:04 AM

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

Look at the second video down, the one where McCAIN is the one at the rally, not Palin.

But that's not how LAPdog's fairytale goes...

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:05 AM

America loves a winner!

I heard 'treason', at the end of one Palin clip, is all. Which is understandable, as Obama did falsly state that we were bombing villages and killing civilians, as though they were our sole targets. Obama knows better, and knew better, even when he said those words. He's a liar.

On the McCain clip, it's clear that McCain does react to, again ONE rally attendee.... he reacts with a frown, not a smile. And then he comments about 'angry insults ', which is a clear indication he's NOT condoning such displays.

Again, I'm right. Thanks for posting.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:06 AM

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AuLapdog wrote:

No one yelled " terrorist " That story was a myth, fabricated by a Liberal reporter.

There you are, caught red-handed once again in yet another lie. Or do you prefer to call them RapFacts™? Either way, you're full of shit. It happened, it happened at a McCain rally, and it's on video.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:09 AM

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Again, I'm right. Thanks for posting.

How do you figure? YOU said that "NO ONE" yelled terrorist. Quite clearly, someone did. You now claim it was "one person" - but you said "no one" did it, that it was all a fairy tale and that it NEVER happened.

Are you lying now, or were you lying then?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:10 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Which is amazing, since you hurl them at others so damn often.

Yes, I routinely blow up at Rue, Signy, and Chris, yelling at them and typing in all caps, calling them things like "FUCKING DUMASS!!!" and "Cunt-face".

That sounds just like me...

Oh, wait - that was YOU doing that.

Yeah, 'cause you're pure as the wind driven snow and have never once tossed around any insults.

I've moved on, put such things in the past. It's clear you and others have not.

Selah

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:15 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
he reacts with a frown, not a smile.

And EVERY OTHER part of you post was WRONG! heh heh, you are so a loser, AWCrappy.

Dogpile on the liar! Dogpile on the liar!

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:16 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
citizen clearly did not look at or comment on the video link posted. - FACT

No, I just have an idea what proof is, and that it isn't a quote from some other guy who happens to agree with you.

If I'm not swayed by your say so, I'm not going to be swayed by the say so of someone who told you what to think.

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He clearly has no clue what he's talking about. That makes him IGNORANT.

People who can't argue against a statement, and prefer to call their opponent ignorant, have already lost. FACT.

Still haven't proved your case. Of course it would be a lot easier to do so, if you had one...

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:16 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Again, I'm right. Thanks for posting.

How do you figure? YOU said that "NO ONE" yelled terrorist. Quite clearly, someone did. You now claim it was "one person" - but you said "no one" did it, that it was all a fairy tale and that it NEVER happened.

Are you lying now, or were you lying then?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

Never once lied, either time. McCain never "smiled" at the utterance of anyone saying " Terrorist " , and I'd never seen that clip before. So I couldn't have been lying.

It's more likely that such folks werre Liberal plants, there to make the GOP candidates look bad, and knowing they'd be heard on camera. After the initial false report of threats to Obama " allegedly " heard at a Palin rally in Florida, were found to be untrue. Easy enough to smear your candidate, when all you need is ONE lone shouter in a crowd to put the other 1000's in a a bad light.

There's nothing I'd put past the Demunderground/ moveondotorg types. Nothing.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:19 AM

America loves a winner!

citizen -

and you've still not watched the video, have you ?

The case is clearly made, but since you continue to ignore the facts, it's pointless to even try to carry this on any further. Until you have an intelligent thing to say per the video link I posted, continue to fight with yourself.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:25 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

It's more likely that such folks werre Libeal plants, there to make the GOP candidates look bad,

So it was...The Libeals!!!!
And here I always thought they werre mythical, being an evil plant species & such.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:28 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"... then Senator Dodd led a fillibuster ... Is statement True or False?"

FALSE

No bills moved out of the committee in 2003 - 2004, so there could be no filibuster.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:37 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
citizen -

and you've still not watched the video, have you ?

I have, actually. Again you prove yourself wrong.

You have no case.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The case is clearly made, but since you continue to ignore the facts, it's pointless to even try to carry this on any further. Until you have an intelligent thing to say per the video link I posted, continue to fight with yourself.

Yes, of course, in your world I suppose a highly edited one sided republican propaganda piece would constitute fact.

Besides, I don't care about the video. I never mentioned the video. I never mentioned the Republicans or the Democrats. What I was talking about had little to nothing to do with either of them. It's not my fault if you are incapable of seeing any statement except in terms of "agrees with me, Republican, GOOD", "disagrees with me, Democrat, BAD!".

I really don't care about your silly propaganda piece that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. I wasn't discussing which political party was at fault, I was pointing out factual inaccuracies in your argument. For instance insinuating that Fannie mae and Freddie Mac were lending to bad customers, when in fact no one ever bought a mortgage from them, good or bad. They didn't sell mortgages to end customers, geddit? Or insisting that ACORN was pressuring banks in to bad loans, when they were arguing AGAINST predatory lending. Not once did I mention the Republicans or the Democrats. Not once did I try to lay the blame at either of their feet. Unlike true unthinking lock step partisans, I don't think either of them are to blame, I think they BOTH are.

But instead of actually reading and understanding what I said, you have to devolve it down to some combat of partisan talking points.

Until you can break your programming, and leap out of this US and THEM attitude, where you have to break every argument down into pro-Republican, or pro-Democrat, then it's pointless talking to you. Go have your angry partisan argument with someone else, because I'm not interested.

Shit, either I'm entirely ignorant of US politics, or I'm deeply democrat, you really can't have it both ways. If you're going to insult me, at least keep those insults consistent ya fool. Contradicting yourself with your own insults just makes you look deeply silly.

If I was really as ignorant as you say, you wouldn't need to insult me to invalidate my argument. You refute yourself.

You have no case.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:45 AM

America loves a winner!

So you've still not seen the video, huh?

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:48 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So you've still not seen the video, huh?

So you still can't come up with an argument or any facts, huh?

You have no case.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:53 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

""Fannie Mae wrote more mortgage dollars from 2006-2008 than they had collectively in their entire history from 1938 to 2006". Karl Rove

Is statement True or False?"

FALSE

Fannie Mae (and Freddie Mac) loans peaked in 2003 and dropped afterwards.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:54 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Not Signy...or Rue. Heck, I even predicted it, although it happened a year or two sooner than I thought it would...

Yeah...but you didn't know what you were talking about. Being right for the wrong reasons is not relevant.

I'm not a compass just because I happen to point north.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Yeah...but you didn't know what you were talking about. Being right for the wrong reasons is not relevant.

I'm not a compass just because I happen to point north.

Actually plenty of economists were saying things weren't so rosy. The same thing happened prior to the 1929 Wall street crash. No one wants to listen when they're plummeting past the 15th floor.

"all good so far!"

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:12 PM

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Never once lied, either time. McCain never "smiled" at the utterance of anyone saying " Terrorist " , and I'd never seen that clip before. So I couldn't have been lying.

You quite clearly stated that it was a "liberal fairy tale" and a "myth". So now that it's been clearly proven to be a real, you weren't lying because you hadn't seen it? Your best defense is that it wasn't a lie if you're ignorant and have no idea what you're talking about? You were wrong, again. Dead wrong. As usual.

Oh, and as usual, if you don't like the message, attack the source. "The person yelling was a liberal plant!" Yeah, because certainly no Republicans thought Obama was a terrorist, or ever tried to portray him as such...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:46 PM

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Yeah, 'cause you're pure as the wind driven snow and have never once tossed around any insults.

Yeah, I have. But in your own words,

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's not an insult if it's true.

And truth be told, you ARE an idiot. Or, if you're not, I'm not lying when I call you that, because I didn't know for a fact that you weren't.

Life's more fun when you run it according to RapLogic™.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 2:36 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Life's more fun when you run it according to RapLogic™.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

Another convert.

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Friday, February 20, 2009 7:44 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by rue:
""Fannie Mae wrote more mortgage dollars from 2006-2008 than they had collectively in their entire history from 1938 to 2006". Karl Rove

Is statement True or False?"

FALSE

Fannie Mae (and Freddie Mac) loans peaked in 2003 and dropped afterwards.

As you're the only one who responded to my 2 questions I say thank you. I don't have the time to investigate this on my own, but if you're correct, then Rove is just lying? Either Dodd led a fillibuster or he didn't, and the same with the Fannie Mae numbers. I wouldn't be surprise either way, but I am sick of all the attempted revisionist horseshit from both sides.

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Friday, February 20, 2009 7:51 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I am sick of all the attempted revisionist horseshit from both sides.

The eff-up was no one sides fault; there's enough blame for everybody.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, February 20, 2009 8:43 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I am sick of all the attempted revisionist horseshit from both sides.
The eff-up was no one sides fault; there's enough blame for everybody.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

There's enough BLAME for everybody, but is there enough ROPE for everybody?

And Jongs, it's rarer than hen's teeth, but you and I are just about in complete agreement on a number of things the last few days. Actually, I've probably got more faith in the Republican party right now than you do.

Rove lied? What are the odds... That's *almost* as shocking as finding out that Blagojevich lied and was on the take. ;)

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 20, 2009 8:55 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

And Jongs, it's rarer than hen's teeth, but you and I are just about in complete agreement on a number of things the last few days.

Yeah, it's been goin' around.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, February 20, 2009 8:56 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And Jongs, it's rarer than hen's teeth, but you and I are just about in complete agreement on a number of things the last few days. Actually, I've probably got more faith in the Republican party right now than you do.

That should paint a clear picture to you of what the last election season did to me. But from you, I'm a bit surprised. Don't fret though, your Dems ain't going anywhere for a long time. Enjoy it.

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Friday, February 20, 2009 8:59 AM

DREAMTROVE

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Mike
We won, you lost. Deal with it.

Sorry to be annoying, but I'm really annoyed.
It's not a team sport. You didn't win, Obama won.

As or Obama himself, at the moment, the man seems incapable of doing good, or obeying the law. Rap is right again, America has been had.

At the moment my ire is about Stem Cells. Bush never supported them, between his big pharm and fundamentalist retards, he had special interests making him the son of a b*tch that he is.

Obama on the other hand said "week one" and then "next week" and then "next tuesday" and now it's been a month, and he's given us a "soon" and a "maybe not." Meanwhile, he's being pressured heavily by industry, academia, his own govt, FDA, NIH, his own party, and the opposition party, yeah, I mean the republicans, to reverse the Bush ban already. And he won't do it. What's his f^&king problem?

So, in addition to the war in afghanistan which he's sending more troops to, spending more money on (oh, everyone should watch Ron Paul's speech the other day on the cost of American Empire, and why its sinking our economy) and we're still in Iraq, and now Obama's saying "maybe not in my first term" as far as getting out of Iraq goes. The Iraqis want us gone, they've made that perfectly clear.

And then there's the non-budget spending bills that all y'all gonna pay for forever. Oh, and the latest, I heard he's waffling on the buy america clause, which he just signed into law, he told some group of businessmen that there were ways around it, contract to an american firm and subcontract overseas, something like that. Who is this guy? I'm thinking of retracting the "he got overrun with clintonistas" to thinking maybe he was their trojan horse all along. I get that he hates Hillary. Oh, and there's a nice piece of work, she's doing her part to start a war in Korea.

Sorry, just had to vent. I heard there's a liberal group out there suggesting impeachment. If they do, I'll grant that democrats have balls. Republicans sadly have demonstrated that they do not, for 8 years, which is why they're all gay.

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Friday, February 20, 2009 9:06 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Rap is right again

"Again?"
Dream, you don't need that new med if it produces this kind of reaction, dude.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, February 20, 2009 9:44 AM

FREMDFIRMA

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There's enough BLAME for everybody, but is there enough ROPE for everybody?

THAT's the spirit!

And yes, legalize marijuana (and by default, hemp) and there certainly would be!

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I heard there's a liberal group out there suggesting impeachment.

Oh indeedy, more than one - if we're talkin about the SAME one though, they were calling for it the day he was even sworn in, over the 2nd Amendment, on the grounds that if someone who's sworn an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution then espouses it's violation immediately thereafter has no business in that office at all.

But they ain't democrats, and democrats ain't liberal anymore than republicans are conservative.

The word you're looking for, is sociopathic.

If everything else they tell you is a bloody obvious lie, then why take them at their word on ANYTHING, up to and including their party platform and goals ?

Again, get your shit together, now is your ONLY real chance for many years to ambush them in congress, and at the top, while one of em is down and bleeding and the other is clueless about the threat - if anyone HAD listened to me months ago we'd have the jump on this.

Or... you could sit back and believe really hard in the hero myth and pray for someone to save you, uh huh - remember imma Maltheist who's of the idea that the kind of "saving" that would come from THAT direction would be Sol-Prime goin supernova.

Me, I figure if we don't do it now, we *deserve* the results - hell, i'm of the opinion that most of us already do.

But to doom future generations to it, who had no stake in it's creation or say in stopping it ?
Unforgiveable, and will count against anyone who stays their hand, staining their karma forever.

It really is do or die time folks, and the clock is ticking.

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, February 20, 2009 10:23 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Yep, time to make it right.

I have no intention of leaving a massive debt to my child, or to her children. Just as I have no intention of leaving a plundered earth, or a system which REQUIRES such debt in order to function at all.

HOWEVER....

There is something to be said for "savings" and "investment".

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

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Friday, February 20, 2009 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

THAT's the spirit!

That was irrational, not to mention, un-sportsman-like.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, February 20, 2009 12:02 PM

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That should paint a clear picture to you of what the last election season did to me. But from you, I'm a bit surprised. Don't fret though, your Dems ain't going anywhere for a long time. Enjoy it.

It may surprise you, but I *loathe* the idea of one party in charge of all branches of government. I *applaud* having the Executive and Legislative Branches fighting it out tooth and nail, because it's more likely to ensure that if something gets passed, it's something that was really needed, not some bullshit that just got rubber-stamped.

I rather enjoy the idea of a split Congress - one party controlling the House, the other controlling the Senate. It would force them to start working WITH each other and WITH the few third-party/independent members, and quit pissing around so goddam much on partisan bullshit.

I, of course, am under no such constraints.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 20, 2009 12:11 PM

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Sorry to be annoying, but I'm really annoyed.
It's not a team sport. You didn't win, Obama won.

DT, you can be as annoyed as you like, but it won't change much of anything.

The line you quoted of mine is one I borrowed from AuLapdog, one of his favorites of the past few years. "We won, you lost. Get over it." or "Deal w/it."

I was snarking him by pointing out that he is now on the losing side of that statement.

Of course, it might be argued that we are ALL on the losing side...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 20, 2009 12:12 PM

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THAT's the spirit!

That was irrational, not to mention, un-sportsman-like.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

Six, seven...Go to hell, go to heaven.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 20, 2009 12:18 PM

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Again, get your shit together, now is your ONLY real chance for many years to ambush them in congress, and at the top, while one of em is down and bleeding and the other is clueless about the threat - if anyone HAD listened to me months ago we'd have the jump on this.

Frem, I actually DID listen to you on this, and fully support the idea. I'll be backing third-party candidates in the next round of local and state elections. I almost don't even care which third party they represent (note I said *almost*) - as long as they're not a Democrat or a Republican, they're going to get a long listen from me. If I find someone I can actually believe in, I'll not only support them, I'll work for them (and I have worked on a few campaigns in the past).

This past election season, my number one goal was to get the Republicans out of power. Now it is to make sure the Democrats are right behind them with the boot in THEIR ass!

There's no politician who's going to be our shining knight on a milk-white steed. WE have to do it for ourselves, and we're going to have to kick an awful lot of ass on the way to DC.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 20, 2009 12:20 PM

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Frem,

Nah, I was just reading about a group of Obama supporters, assuming they really are, who are claiming he's gone back on every promise. True, I think a lot of people heard what the wanted to hear, most of the Obama platform sounded pretty neocon myself, so people who voted for him and expected something else were being delusional, but on certain issues they had a point. He hasn't been johnny on the spot re: secret prisons, getting out of iraq, dealing with the deficit, or reversing bush's executive orders, patriot act, things which he actually did say on the campaign trail.

Right now, it's looking like Bill Clinton is being president through his goon squad, and if that's the case, well, we're all fucked.

Chris,

Actually, it's that when Rap was defending the US executive branch, he sounded absurd. Now he's attacking it, probably because there's a democrat in there, but he's making a lot of sense. I think the sour truth is that the executive branch has gotten a makeover, but it's restricted to image. I don't see a lot of policy reversal. The real reversal here is probably Rap and not me, a party loyalty issue. In case you haven't noticed, I've never been a big with the party loyalty.

Or national loyalty. If America sinks, I abandon. I'm busy picking out my lifeboat, worry about a destination later. Have fun with rearranging the debt chairs ;)

Oh, and thank for all the fish.

Personally, I'm pretty sour on the subject at the moment. I've had a lot of bad breaks, one of them being my foot, and losing my medical insurance, a bad combo, along with losing my savings, and my business folding. Just say I don't see Obama as a savior. I kinda see him as George W. Bush v. 2.0.

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Friday, February 20, 2009 12:31 PM

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He hasn't been johnny on the spot re: secret prisons,

I thought he had gone after those?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Friday, February 20, 2009 12:37 PM

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Just say I don't see Obama as a savior. I kinda see him as George W. Bush v. 2.0.

Then why ain't RAPpy ecstatic?

Oh..I guess it's the Dem thing.

The foot a bad break? Or did ya luck out with a hairline? Either way, feel better, bud.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, February 20, 2009 1:23 PM

FREMDFIRMA

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That was irrational, not to mention, un-sportsman-like.

My way is very unsportsmanlike...

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This past election season, my number one goal was to get the Republicans out of power. Now it is to make sure the Democrats are right behind them with the boot in THEIR ass!

Exactly.

Step by step, we can put em down - but I really wish the partisan whiners would shut the fuck up and realize their own pet asswipes were, and are, part of the problem every bit as much.

In fact, I worry about those people - who will, even if we pull this off, resort to supporting the same assholes, with the same agendas, just repackaged by their favorite propaganda engine and appealing to whatever their pet hatred of the week is.

And because of that, their ignorance, their fear, intolerance and stupidity, their glaring weaknesses which they refuse to address...

Those people, because of these simple facts, and how willing they are to follow the directives of a tyrant who knows how to stroke em, are more than the would-be tyrants themselves, a THREAT to us - cause without em, a would be tyrant is nothing but one more loudmouth in a world replete with em.

Understand this, pokin the angry monkey is all fun and games here, but at some point you are going to have to address the VERY REAL THREAT such people pose, and you ain't gonna be able to do it with logic, reason, or appeal to their humanity.

Do you understand this ?
Are you prepared to deal with that ?

Those are questions you better ask NOW, or there's just no point in trying.
Cause me, I got a DAMN short hand for threats of that nature.

So you'd best think it all the way through, where this can and will go if we *do* happen to succeed in removing the global elite, and those shitheels do everything in their power up to and including sabotage, violence and terrorism, to put the scumbags back in.

And you've by now realised the futility of trying to negotiate.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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