Going to Missouri anytime soon? by 6ixStringJack

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Going to Missouri anytime soon?

POSTED BY: 6IXSTRINGJACK
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Friday, March 20, 2009 2:42 AM

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-c
huck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

I know it's a little PN, but somebody showed me it today. I never went to this site before, but when I saw prisonplanet I thought of PN right away.

You know I wouldn't be surprised if this was happening now. I'm just wondering if you think this is real?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, March 20, 2009 3:05 AM

SERGEANTX

I was involved with several of these groups when I was in Missouri last winter. So, I'm officially a terrorist. Awesome.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, March 20, 2009 4:17 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I need to find a "I'm a Terrorist - I Voted for Ron Paul" bumper sticker.

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Friday, March 20, 2009 4:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Maybe it's time for a bumper sticker that either side could get behind the slogan....

Wouldn't that fuck them up? Both sides...

I will make it on cafepress....

Stay tuned.

~6

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, March 20, 2009 5:13 AM

CANTTAKESKY

I think it is real. I believe that is the direction the country is going in.

I know at least one person in the political science field who believes that Al-Qaeda and "right-wing militias" worked together on the OKCity bombing, and that they will collaborate again on a future terrorist attack. Once that association becomes mainstream, it is just a matter of time for the association to expand to groups that defend the 2nd Amendment and other Constitutional rights.

Seen V lately, anyone?

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Dr. Horrible Karaoke

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Friday, March 20, 2009 6:16 AM

FREMDFIRMA

It's absolutely real.

It's not even new, this particular scary little brochure was passed around to law enforcement well over five years ago.
http://www.welfarestate.com/pamphlet/

And for those who, like me, think Mister Jones is a bit off his nut, here's independant verification of the story at hand.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/mar/14/fusion-center-data-dra
ws-fire-over-assertions/

One of the things striking me as particularly offensive right now is that the mere act of reading BOOKS is considered suspect, cause these bastards are currently on a frenzy to obtain peoples reading lists to add to the little profiles they keep - and you can bet your ass Amazon and the rest are just slobbering all over themselves in eagerness to comply in exchange for "favorable" treatment amidst the current rumors of alphabet goon collusion with the SEC to benefit or harm corporations based on political "reliability".

Fahrenheit 451, here we come.

Personally I think the bastards waited too long, and their own lack of respect for future generations by treating them as subhumans has allowed folks like me to ensure that our side will retain sufficient population to allow skill and knowledge to subvert ignorant numbers for at least three generations to come - because the power of knowledge is far stronger than the poison of ignorance.

"Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit"
- Philip Pullman; The Subtle Knife

On a more personal note, Jack ?
Synanon/The Seed/WWASPS is done for, someone cut their throat while they weren't paying attention by causing their intake systems (Pathway Family Centers) and thus financial lifeline, to collapse here in Michigan and Ohio.

The first domino has fallen, and I think you of all people know all the unspoken implications related to it.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, March 20, 2009 6:29 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Maybe it's time for a bumper sticker that either side could get behind the slogan....

Wouldn't that fuck them up? Both sides...

I will make it on cafepress....

Stay tuned.

~6

It's already out there:

"I love my country, but I fear my government."

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

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Friday, March 20, 2009 6:51 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-c
huck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

I know it's a little PN, but somebody showed me it today. I never went to this site before, but when I saw prisonplanet I thought of PN right away.

You know I wouldn't be surprised if this was happening now. I'm just wondering if you think this is real?

Like Frem said , it's not only real , it's also old news...

Things are just getting 'curiouser and curiouser'...

The further along we go , the more 'PN' our reality becomes...

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=37392

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Friday, March 20, 2009 6:56 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Crap... Im screwed then.

lol

Big Government

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Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Funny how nobody argues that this is happening... then again, I didn't hear anything from the regular "I Love Big Brother" crowd either.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Saturday, March 21, 2009 4:56 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Ron Paul Girl Aimee Allen was on Infowars radio Friday. She was almost murdered by 3 "muggers" with crowbars, who targeted her specifically. They beat her in the head and she almost died. The 3 girls threw down their purses and told the "muggers" to take the money, but they just kicked it away and laughed. They only beat Aimee. Cops said there was no point of investigating, sicne it was just illegal aliens from Mexico.

Now she only plays non-political music. She also used to pick on the CIA.

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So this Missouri State Police report by Jewish ADL/SPLC is designed to incite assaults on Ron Paul supporters. Or to scare the heck out of cops who take an oath to the US Constitution. Mission Accompliced.

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Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:59 PM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
It's not even new, this particular scary little brochure was passed around to law enforcement well over five years ago.
http://www.welfarestate.com/pamphlet/

I don't see much to have a problem with. I suspect Christian Identity isn't a reference to people who identify as Christian, it's a reference to the white power group "Christian Identity", who pretty much belong in the same breath as Neo-Nazi's and the KKK. The rest are ways of spotting terrorists and possible motivations. All those things can be a sign of an extremist or terrorist, remember that Timothy Mcveigh saw himself as a "defender of the constitution", and his defence led him to kill 168 people, including 19 children. It circles Lone Individuals and Animal Rights, but I don't see a problem with that either, Mcveigh was a lone individual, and some Animal Rights groups are violent.

It's like if you were to describe an extremist Muslim terrorist group. Wouldn't a list that includes "quoting the Qur'an" and "Strict adherence to Muslim dress" be a cogent part of that description? But that wouldn't mean all people who quote the Qur'an or wear Muslim dress are terrorists, would it?

I suspect that this pamphlet is meant to act as bullet points to a more comprehensive briefing, not to say that all people who defend the constitution are terrorists. I just think with so much else to legitimately get upset about, bringing up a fairly innocuous pamphlet is likely to tarnish any real points of worry.

I was reading in the paper today about this dwarf that got pickpocketed. How could anyone stoop so low?

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Heh... show me a person in American politics who defends the constitution and I'll show you a lone individual.

I say throw them all out and start over. So do a lot of Americans. That's the whole purpose of these kinds of things. Get the thug cops to protect the hand that feeds them.

Notice how everyone is getting laid off and Obama makes a special appearance to celebrate 25 cop rookies who got their jobs back?

As long as we can print money, we will have no shortages of jobs in the police force.

I'd feel a lot better if it were local funds supporting cops, rather than Federal funds which come with plenty of this garbage.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:54 AM

FREMDFIRMA

As Hero is so fond of insinuating, what better way to make a living in a police state than to be part of the police ?

You'll never go hungry, that's for sure.

Of course, that doesn't mean you sympathies have to lie there, Jack - remember what I said about O'Brien.

Sometimes the best way to munge up the works is to be part of the works.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:16 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Heh... show me a person in American politics who defends the constitution and I'll show you a lone individual.

I say throw them all out and start over. So do a lot of Americans. That's the whole purpose of these kinds of things. Get the thug cops to protect the hand that feeds them.

Notice how everyone is getting laid off and Obama makes a special appearance to celebrate 25 cop rookies who got their jobs back?

As long as we can print money, we will have no shortages of jobs in the police force.

I'd feel a lot better if it were local funds supporting cops, rather than Federal funds which come with plenty of this garbage.

'Local cop' Arpaio in Arizona is under Federal investigation for enforcing the law , accused of 'racial profiling' for having the audacity to make illegal immigrants serve their time before being sent back south...

As you know , Ron Paul is that lone individual in Washington who consistently advocates Constitutional government...So his supporters are 'politically profiled' and singled out as 'lone individuals' , who happen to likely number in the millions...

On the subject of printing money , it's not 'we' who are doing that , it's 'them'...

Opposing that monopoly will get you 'profiled' also...

And , since they've 'bought' their own cops , expect an ever-stronger mission to turn those cops against folk who favor Lawful Money , rather than Monopoly 'money'...

"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."
-- James A. Garfield - (1831-1881) 20th President of the United States (1881)

Captured By The 'Debt Spider' :

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22273.htm

" It riles them to believe that we perceive the Web they weave..."

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:53 PM

KWICKO

Quote:

As long as we can print money, we will have no shortages of jobs in the police force.

And apparently Oakland needs a whole bunch of new ones. Seems several of their old ones got theyselves killed.

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

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Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:19 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Yeah, I been following that...

What with the Riders case (think RAMPART, on a smaller scale) and the outright execution of Oscar Grant, on tape, no less - the Oakland PD's not been too warmly recieved by their victi.. err, "protectees" as of late.

And I find THIS bit especially jarring.

Quote:
They did not say why officers pulled over Mr. Mixon to begin with, but said it appeared to be a routine traffic stop.

Ah yes, the good ole (illegal) "Routine Stop" - as in lets fuck with the black guy for DWB, if they had any real excuse they woulda given it.

And as for a previous record for assault with a deadly weapon, having been charged and tried for the same for an act of pure self-defense, and having to clobber the public defender and fire him when he tried to take a dive, using that to vilify the guy doesn't fly with me, especially since the parole board let him walk.

"Extensive criminal history" my ass, care to bet there was only the one charge, or they're counting minor shit like traffic tickets and typical juvie bullshit ?

The warrant thing doesn't fly neither, cause I would lay good odds the ink on it wasn't even dry when the coroner rolled the body away, likely they wrote it up as Parole Vio, ex post facto, cause you'll note they dance around saying what it was FOR - and if they DID have a warrant outstanding, they would not have been making a "routine stop" now would they ?

As for him packin - in that neighborhood, if you AIN'T armed you're a dead man walkin, the law tends to ignore the ugly realities of the world it has created for us, by the long held vilification of self defense and trying to exercise your rights.

Somehow I severely doubt his "assault rifle" was anything of the sort, since if it *WAS* full-auto, or in any way an illegal variation you can bet your sweet bippy they'd be crowing to the rafters about that too.

This is the usual brand of post-death vilification, is all it is.

They pulled this guy over to fuck with him for DWB, and for whatever reason he figured his chances of winding up dead were high enough that he decided to double down and go for broke - when he drew iron on them in the first place, the man KNEW he was gonna die, thems the rules when you stand up to the blue suit mafia and everybody knows it, they *will* kill you at that point no matter what the law and procedure says.

And so he decided to go down swinging and take some of em to hell with him, a practice which is unfortunately gonna become more and more common as the police get more militarized and aggressive.
(and use that very fact to excuse it)

You're welcome to dispute my take on it, as this is mere speculation without facts as mere peon non-cops are unlikely to be privy to - but before you do so, consider well the few times I've called an event like this in advance, and how often that calling has been correct, chapter and verse.

This was a case of "yuk,yuk, hey bubba, let's fuck with the ******!" blowing up in their face when the target decided he wasn't gonna take that shit any more.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Monday, March 23, 2009 4:23 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

"This was a case of "yuk,yuk, hey bubba, let's fuck with the ******!" blowing up in their face when the target decided he wasn't gonna take that shit any more."

I wonder how long its going to be before this starts happening on a regular basis?

and then what?

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Monday, March 23, 2009 4:35 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Oh, and by the by...

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20090322/LOCAL/303229940/-1/LOCA
L11

So if you guys are thinking of carrying your gold/cash someplace safe in the near future...Make damn sure your lights work, and stay at the speed limit.

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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:50 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Wulf, it's ALREADY happening on a regular basis, it's just not all that newsworthy and often suppressed cause the powers that be don't want folks getting... ideas.

And as for Asset-Theft (forfeiture) and related abuse, that story don't hold a candle to Tenahah, Texas and many other venues quite well known for this shit.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-texas-profiling_wit
tmar10,0,6051682.story

And it doesn't even begin to scratch the surface on just how deep the abuse of asset forfeiture goes.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_n4_v25/ai_14171968

I know yer pissed and frustrated, and you wanna DO something, but your skills need a bit of honing before you strike out on your own, and I have been thinkin about it on your behalf.

http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml
Get yourself a camera, and get in touch with your local IndyMedia division, and pick up some on the job training in how and when to push the limits without getting clobbered, arrested or dead - and find someone who can do a better job than me of teaching you how to verbally humiliate and ridicule the powers that be in a manner that not only enrages and frustrates them (leading them to expose themselves even further) but also makes them less able to scare folk into doing their bidding - cause for a fact, no one fears a laughingstock.

While your at it though, take a deep hard look at your own internal prejudices and question them good and hard, never assume you know what you know.

Find yourself a nicely corrupt local politician and editorialise them in the local paper, bonus points if you manage to grill them in person, and triple that if you can reduce them to sputtering rage without getting bodily thrown out on your ear.
(make sure to get it on tape for posterity!)

Accomplish THAT, and we'll talk about the next step.

And never, EVER underestimate the power of scorn and ridicule, because properly fostering it against the powers that be, that is what in the end will break them, cause when no one will obey their orders anymore, they got NOTHIN.

Clear enough, grasshopper ?

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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