Props to Cheney for FINALLY admitting that Bush ordered TORTURE! by AURaptor

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I think Repubclians should hang onto their core values-

Illegal immigration (good for big business)
War profiteering (good for big business)
Torture, warrantless wiretapping, and no habeas corpus (good for big goverment)
Encouraging bad banking practices and credit-card gouging (good for big business)
Cutting taxes (good for deficit spending)
Throwing money at the rich (good for big business)
Throwing money at the pharmas (good for big business)

Yanno, they shit on peeps morning noon and night, and once every four years they drag out some delusional poor sod like Joe the Plumber (who, it seems might leave the GOP) for some faux populism. Perosanlly, I think the Repubs should stick with that winning strategy.

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:07 AM

RIPWASH

Illegal immigration is more of a PLUS in the Democratic column. More people they can con into voting for them, the better

War Profiteering done under both parties, I beleive

Torture, etc . . . . wiretapping especially, done under both parties.

Encouraging bad banking practices . . . you mean like under the Clinton Administration with encouraging banks to extend loans to folks they wouldn't have given loans to in the first place?

Cutting taxes . . . I sure would like to pay less taxes, wouldn't you?

Throwing money at the rich - Dems have enough rich people on their side, too, yanno.

Throwing money at pharma - even Rue admitted (ir at least indicated) that government money-throwing at pharma is a good idea under nationalized healthcare.

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Mal: Could be bumpy.
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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:13 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yanno, they shit on peeps morning noon and night, and once every four years they drag out some delusional poor sod like Joe the Plumber (who, it seems might leave the GOP) for some faux populism. Perosanlly, I think the Repubs should stick with that winning strategy.

Yanno, Joe The Plumber was just a guy who lived in the house where Obama was doing one of his walking tours. He raised a real concern for many Americans, namely income re-distribution, which sounds a lot like (to us rednecks) socialism. You Dems made such a fuss over him, having him investigated and all, that he became a pseudo-hero for the Right. Too bad he turned out to be a first-class moron, an idiot who cannot articulate a cogent thought. Too bad the fucking retards running McCain's freak show campaign chose to run with Joe The Plumber as some sort of person to rally around.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:15 AM

America loves a winner!

Sig, you continue to have exactly perfectly bacwards. The LEFT wants:
Illegal immigration, to stuff the ballot boxes and hoer inflate the welfare state.

Stealing from the producers to give to the slackers, whose only " job " is to vote for big gov't , Alliance loving, scum into office.

Giving more rights to the low life animals who want to slaughter us for not believing in their made up bullshit of a religion.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:27 AM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
this country will be lost, forever.

Just see me!
(Map To The Stars Chrissy)

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:42 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Sig, you continue to have exactly perfectly bacwards. The LEFT wants:
Illegal immigration, to stuff the ballot boxes and hoer inflate the welfare state.

To WHAT?!

Also, can someone please explain to me how all these illegals are supposedly "voting"? And is illegal immigration more prevalent now than it was 8, 12, 16, 20, or 24 years ago?

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Stealing from the producers to give to the slackers, whose only " job " is to vote for big gov't , Alliance loving, scum into office.

Two things:

1) I had no idea you were actually in public office. So THAT's how you did it - you were backed by the Alliance-loving scum vote! Figures, since you're such an Alliance-loving scumbag authoritarian yourself...

2) Are you talking about stealing from people like me, who work 40+ hours a week to "give" to people whose only "job" is going to board meetings and golf vacations? 'Cause I really do hate that brand of socialism...

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Giving more rights to the low life animals who want to slaughter us for not believing in their made up bullshit of a religion.

I'm with you on that one. I think the christians in this country have far too much power already - we sure as hell don't need to give them the power to torture on top of that, just because of their made-up bullshit of a religion.

Mike

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:43 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
this country will be lost, forever.
Just see me!
(Map To The Stars Chrissy)

The laughing Chrisisall

Our nation won't truly be lost until everyone has a GPS unit.

Mike

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Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:31 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Illegal immigration is more of a PLUS in the Democratic column. More people they can con into voting for them, the better

Because illegal immigrants form such a large part of the vote?

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War Profiteering done under both parties, I beleive

Not really. Have you SEEN Halliburton's stock prices under Bush?

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Torture, etc . . . . wiretapping especially, done under both parties.

No.

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Encouraging bad banking practices . . . you mean like under the Clinton Administration with encouraging banks to extend loans to folks they wouldn't have given loans to in the first place?

Didn't happen. If you have evidence otherwise, bring it to the table. 'Cause rappy- who keeps making the same claim- has never been able to back it up!

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Cutting taxes . . . I sure would like to pay less taxes, wouldn't you?

It depends on what the taxes are spent on. I would willingly spend more if our government would get out of the empire business and focus on meeting our national needs.

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Throwing money at the rich - Dems have enough rich people on their side, too, yanno.

Unfortunately, too true: they tend to be just as heavily involved with banksters as the Repubs.

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Throwing money at pharma - even Rue admitted (or at least indicated) that government money-throwing at pharma is a good idea under nationalized healthcare.

There is a difference between throwing money at the pharmas and spending wisely. Bush forbidding the government to negotiate for better prices for Medicare Rx coverage... that's throwing money at the pharmas (Just like Obama is throwing $ at the banks.)

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Too bad he turned out to be a first-class moron, an idiot who cannot articulate a cogent thought. Too bad the fucking retards running McCain's freak show campaign chose to run with Joe The Plumber as some sort of person to rally around.

Palin? Same deal. I think the problem with the repub party is that they ARE trying to appeal to a bunch of no-neck know-nothings, and that is EXACTLY why they picked Joe and Sarah. But, if you need know-nothings to support your platform... what does that say about your platform?

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Stealing from the producers to give to the slackers, whose only " job " is to vote for big gov't , Alliance loving, scum into office.

The "producers" are the people who actually- yanno- produce something. Not speculators and CEOs whose only function, it seems, is to gouge the producers as much as possible.

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:10 AM

America loves a winner!

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Encouraging bad banking practices . . . you mean like under the Clinton Administration with encouraging banks to extend loans to folks they wouldn't have given loans to in the first place?

Didn't happen. If you have evidence otherwise, bring it to the table. 'Cause rappy- who keeps making the same claim- has never been able to back it up!

Backed it up several times, but you simply ignore it, so I don't even bother.

" You can lead a liberal to knowledge, but you can't make them THINK ! "

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:17 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

How about you refresh our memories and provide proof with links to actual FACTS (and not your famous brand of RapFacts™) ?

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:13 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Backed it up several times, but you simply ignore it, so I don't even bother.

You quoted Dodd or Frank saying blah-blah-blah... at a time when neither of them had any power. You quote the WSJ saying blah-blah-blah. All opinion. But you have not been able to show a single memo, nor a pattern of loan-making, nor a government regulation, nor a single instance of ANY bad loan being "forced" on banks that they didn't eagerly create themselves.

When did this happen? What dollar amounts were involved? What banks? Who was twisting the banks' arms? How did they do it? What memos, regulations, enforcement actions, or lawsuits were involved?

People IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY, here on this very board and elsewhere, have said that no such thing happened. Don't you think THE BANKS THEMSELVES- like Cuntrywide, Shittybank and Skank of America would be the first to blame to government for their perilous state IF THEY COULD????

All you keep doing is repeating the same stupid internet rumor over and over. As far as I'm concerned it will never be anything but an internet rumor unless you come up with actual FACTS: instances, examples, accounts, regulations etc. which prove your case. Not the same old blah-blah-blah opinion-pieces that you keep citing.

Oh, and BTW- it would be helpful to all concerned if you did eventually figure out there IS a difference between fact and opinion.

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:34 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by rue:
How about you refresh our memories and provide proof with links to actual FACTS (and not your famous brand of RapFacts™) ?

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Silence is consent.

As early as 2002, Bush was warning that there could be problems.

And it all comes together, here

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:38 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

And the repubican party that was IN CONTROL OF CONGRESS has no part in any of it at all ?

These are just more RapFacts™, your personal delusions beyond any shred of credibility.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:50 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Don't you think THE BANKS THEMSELVES- like Cuntrywide, Shittybank and Skank of America would be the first to blame to government for their perilous state IF THEY COULD????

Gosh rappy, maybe you should work for the banks! You're willing to make shit up... shit even THEY don't have the balls to peddle... just to shift blame to the Dems!

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:53 AM

ALIASSE

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:58 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by rue:
And the repubican party that was IN CONTROL OF CONGRESS has no part in any of it at all ?

These are just more RapFacts™, your personal delusions beyond any shred of credibility.

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Silence is consent.

In control, by only the slimmest of margins. There were obviously turn coats and cowards in the party ( Arlen Specter ? ) who played along w/ the Dems to get votes.

rue, kwickie, these are absolute, undeniable FACTS. You cannot dismiss them simply because they don't jive w/ your Left wing , NPR world view.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:05 PM

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rue, kwickie, these are absolute, undeniable FACTS. You cannot dismiss them simply because they don't jive w/ your Left wing , NPR world view.

"Undeniable FACTS" that you can't provide reputable cites for. Yes, I can dismiss them, because they're nothing more than your usual brand of pure partisan hogwash and bullshit. You accept them as "facts" because they jibe (look it up) with your right wing FauxNews world view.

Mike

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:21 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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There were obviously turn coats and cowards in the party who played along w/ the Dems to get votes.

Ah.... so it was the fault of those turncoat, cowardly Republicans, huh?

Well, why didn't you just say so?!?

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:28 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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There were obviously turn coats and cowards in the party who played along w/ the Dems to get votes.
Ah.... so it was the fault of those turncoat, cowardly Republicans, huh?

Well, why didn't you just say so?!?

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

Rappy will accuse you of twisting his words and taking them out of context in 5... 4... 3... 2...

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:49 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Or else he'll bail in 4.... 3.... 2....

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:18 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I guess talking about oral sex was more interesting than talking about turncoat cowardly Republicans!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=38260

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:20 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Ah.... so it was the fault of those turncoat, cowardly Republicans, huh?

Well, why didn't you just say so?!?

They played their role in this whole mess, there's no denying that. Which is why the party is in such shambles. They tried to be Dem - lite, and look where it's gotten them.

Just because the GOP leadership is in major suck mode doesn't mean I have to give up my core political beliefs. In fact, it means I need to step it up more. And that's why Cheney is so right. Limbaugh, and not Powell or McCain, is more in line w/ what American conservatives need to listen to, if there's any hope in salvaging this nation.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:46 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just because the GOP leadership is in major suck mode doesn't mean I have to give up my core political beliefs. In fact, it means I need to step it up more. And that's why Cheney is so right. Limbaugh, and not Powell or McCain, is more in line w/ what American conservatives need to listen to, if there's any hope in salvaging this nation.

Seems you've changed your tune in the last few months...

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AuRaptor also wrote:

McCain just won the election. Game over !

And you seemed like such a loyal McCain supporter back then!

Mike

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

" In fact, it means I need to step it up more. And that's why Cheney is so right. Limbaugh, and not Powell or McCain, is more in line w/ what American conservatives need to listen to, if there's any hope in salvaging this nation."

You go, girl ! Just keep on at it ! It'll pay off, I swear !

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And don't forget - Obama is an alien Muslim communist activist Christian who was born in Kenya and who also lost his US citizenship in Indonesia, and his birth certificate was faked by a vast conspiracy aimed at getting a Kenyan Indonesian in the US WH for the last 40 years.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:43 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Seems you've changed your tune in the last few months...

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AuRaptor also wrote:

McCain just won the election. Game over !

And you seemed like such a loyal McCain supporter back then!

Clearly, I lied.

McCain was / is / always will be a better choice than Obama. But that he lost to such a empty suit, and the mistakes in how he ran his campaign, clearly shows he wasn't what was needed to win.

How much time did you waste tracking down that post ? Seriously.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:47 PM

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How much time did you waste tracking down that post ? Seriously.

Less than five minutes. Seriously.

Mike

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Last time I checked, square miles don't vote.

If the GOP doesn't get a grip on ILLEGAL immigration, excessive spending by the Federal Gov't, and a few other key issues, then this country will be lost, forever.

Don't count on that any time soon. GOP/Bush had 8 years to do something about illegal immigration. After 911, with full support of all, they did nothing. Ooops, I forgot the McCain/Kennedy plan, supported by Bush, but which was abhorred by everyone else and easily defeated. I support a huge effort to reach out to Hispanics, who voted for Bush much more than they did for McCain. We lost their votes, we lost the Moderates, and fell to miniscule numbers of Blacks. Seems like the only one McCain had any appeal to was Sean Hannity, and all his bloviating didn't do squat for the election. Maybe the fact that he regularly trashed McCain prior to the nomination, came off as a bit hypocritical to fair-minded people. Also, isn't it about time that the retarded Republicans learn how to deal with the hostile Press? For 8 years they just sat there like crusted dung on your farm boots, barely ever challenging the dishonest media, rarely ever defending their President in the face of daily vicous attacks, ie, a complete abandonment of the leader of their Party.

Assuming Hispanics to be liberals may be a fragile argument. Although the illegal aliens do vote liberal because most criminals are Democrats, the Hispanic population has a very conservative, religious base. They are heavily weighted towards Catholicism. This would be in favor o the GOP.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:29 PM