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"The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. It is now evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US. Using Leape's 1997 medical and drug error rate would add another 216,000 deaths, for a total of 999,936 deaths annually. Our estimated 10-year total of 7.8 million iatrogenic* deaths is more than all the casualties from all the wars fought by the US throughout its entire history. Our considerably higher figure is equivalent to six jumbo jets are falling out of the sky each day."
—Gary Null, PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD; Debora Rasio, MD; Dorothy Smith, PhD, "Death by Medicine", March 2004 (plus 1-Million annual aborticides in USA)
http://.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm

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"Obama is a radical Communist. He's going to destroy this country, and we're either going to stop him, or the United States of America is going to cease to exist."
-Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, candidate for president in 2008
www.archive.org/details/ObamaInauguralMashup/
http://loyaltoliberty.blogspot.com
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Paranoid schizo.

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ObamaCare to make Private Health Care ILLEGAL!

It’s Not An Option

By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY

Congress: It didn’t take long to run into an “uh-oh” moment when reading the House’s “health care for all Americans” bill. Right there on Page 16 is a provision making individual private medical insurance illegal.

When we first saw the paragraph Tuesday, just after the 1,018-page document was released, we thought we surely must be misreading it. So we sought help from the House Ways and Means Committee.

It turns out we were right: The provision would indeed outlaw individual private coverage. Under the Orwellian header of “Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage,” the “Limitation On New Enrollment” section of the bill clearly states:

“Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage,” the “Limitation On New Enrollment” section of the bill clearly states:

“Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day” of the year the legislation becomes law.

So we can all keep our coverage, just as promised — with, of course, exceptions: Those who currently have private individual coverage won’t be able to change it. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers.

www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3138

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Individual health insurance coverage that is not grandfathered health insurance coverage under subsection (a) may only be offered on or after the first day of Y1 as an Exchange-participating health benefits plan. ”

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What you failed to notice is the phrase "except as provided"... and didn't read further. This is on page 19:

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Individual health insurance coverage that is not grandfathered health insurance coverage under subsection (a) may only be offered on or after the first day of Y1 as an Exchange-participating health benefits plan. ”

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What does THAT mean? It means that private insurance which is offered subsequent to the passage of the bill must meet certain minimum requirements, particulalry NO EXCLUSIONS FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. In other words, private insurers will no longer be allowed to cherry-pick and will no longer be allowed to kick people off the rolls if they file a claim, unless fraud is involved.

Get your friggin' story straight, ya maroon!

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What you failed to notice is the phrase "except as provided"... and didn't read further. This is on page 19:

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Individual health insurance coverage that is not grandfathered health insurance coverage under subsection (a) may only be offered on or after the first day of Y1 as an Exchange-participating health benefits plan. ”

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What does THAT mean? It means that private insurance which is offered subsequent to the passage of the bill must meet certain minimum requirements, particulalry NO EXCLUSIONS FOR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. In other words, private insurers will no longer be allowed to cherry-pick and will no longer be allowed to kick people off the rolls if they file a claim, unless fraud is involved.

Get your friggin' story straight, ya maroon!

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Banning sick people is how insurance companies make a 95% profit margin, paying out only 5% in claims, and paying executives like Warren buffett $30-billion/year tax-free salary.

Now all private insurors will go out of business ASAP. Hospitals in Massachusettes are already suing State of Mass for only paying 60-cents on the dollar.

A doctor told me he would lose money if he performed a colonoscopy in the hospital. So he doped me unconscious like Michael Jackson and didn't do the procedure, refused to give me my test results, and refused to bill the govt insurance in TN. I was his only TNCare customer, and he didn't want to lose whatever insurance payments he was getting for NOT treating anybody. Then govt TNCare cancelled me and my wife, when we are uninsurable by private insurors, which we can't afford anyway, and employers refuse to provide medical benfits.

As for govt medical care in the military, I've been waiting 12 years for an appointment at the VA hospital. All vaccine records were "lost" for all Gulf War 1 soldiers. My wife was butchered by military doctors in "medical school experiments" run amok, and can never have kids as a result. Her VA disability pension was stolen by VA, Congress and White Houses, as perped against 95% of all disabled retired veterans.

THAT'S what Hussein Obama Soetoro and Billary Clinton Blythe Rockefeller want for everyone... besides themselves of course.

As for the "quality" of private medical treatment and private insurance, I was in extreme pain every day for 12 years, with doctors telling me there is no cure, until I met a Hells Angel who told me her grandmother cured rheumatism FMS and arthritis with apple cider vinegar and honey. 24 hours later I was cured for $15 for a year's supply, so long as I take it 3x every day. But doctors will be disbarred if they tell their patients about it. Good for pets too.
www.bragg.com

You dont need a doctor to cure you of most diseases, including cancers. That's why Prince Charles and the elite go to holistic NDs and only eat organic.

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Ron Williams - Aetna - $24,300,112
H. Edward Hanway - CIGNA - $12,236,740
Angela Braly - WellPoint - $9,844,212
Dale Wolf - Coventry Health Care - $9,047,469
Michael Neidorff - Centene - $8,774,483

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So he doped me unconscious like Michael Jackson and didn't do the procedure ... Then govt TNCare cancelled me and my wife, when we are uninsurable by private insurors...As for govt medical care in the military, I've been waiting 12 years for an appointment at the VA hospital....

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As for the "quality" of private medical treatment and private insurance, I was in extreme pain every day for 12 years, with doctors telling me there is no cure

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You dont need a doctor to cure you of most diseases, including cancers. That's why Prince Charles and the elite go to holistic NDs and only eat organic

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That's why Haliburton was paid to build debtor death camps for Hussein Obama Soetoro.

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As for govt medical care in the military, I've been waiting 12 years for an appointment at the VA hospital.

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...and paying executives like Warren buffett $30-billion/year tax-free salary.

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[sarcasm] Oh, THANKS Kwicko! [/sarcasm]

Now I have diet soda in my nose and on my keyboard and screen!

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Meanwhile, I'm paying 8 bucks a pack of smokes to support our debt and we're all paying 4 bucks for a loaf of bread.

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Meanwhile, I'm paying 8 bucks a pack of smokes to support our debt and we're all paying 4 bucks for a loaf of bread.

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1) That's why I quit. Fuck 'em. They don't collect shit from me if I don't play.

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Originally posted by rue:

"It's also mind control, as proven with US troops in WW2 who got free smokes, then 80% of US troops refused to shoot at enemy soldiers, even in self defense."

Yeah, because who would want soldiers that actually, you know, SHOOT at the enemy --- !!?? Better to give them tobacco to turn them into mind-controlled lap-dogs ! Then they can win the war and, uhhmmm ... ... no wait ! Then they can LOSE the war and ... uuhhhhh ... ...

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Kids Learn That Killing Is Fun at the Army's Lethal New Videogame Recruitment Theme Parks in Shopping Malls
www.alternet.org/world/113079/

US Soldiers Started to Shoot Us, One by One: Survivors describe yet another wedding massacre
www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0521-01.htm
http://americansniperpoem.blogspot.com

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