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Lord Monckton: Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty in Copenhagen
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:01 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:38 PM
PHOENIXROSE
You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:15 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." -Ted Turner, founder of CNN News who was paid $3-billion salary in one day, Bilderberg Secret Society http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:01 AM
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:33 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:02 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:40 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Disgusting example of brainwashing for stupid sheeple. Only a moron would fall for CNN's scam.
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:43 AM
Quote:The ONLY thing I like and find amusing about the bullshit "birther" thing is that it infuriates the Obama worshippers to no end.
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:29 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:I say what the fuck, keep it up!
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:35 AM
BYTEMITE
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:54 AM
GINOBIFFARONI
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: I love the Palin for 2012 signs people are already making. I'm looking forward to seeing who the frontrunner for the Dems will be so I can make "oh fsck, the world ends either way" jokes. It's only fair if I'm allowed to be a 9-11 nutjob, that some people are allowed to be birthers. I agree that the birthers should get to speak, just like how we don't repress any unpopular opinions here. I'm grateful for that. I'll also say that I don't identify left or right, so if the 9-11 business is left-wing, it's not everyone, or even a platform of the left, just like birthers don't represent everyone on the right. I promise that I will try not to be too douche-y about my 9-11 skepticism, and recognize that sympathy is needed for the 3,000-ish people killed on 9-11 and their families. Lastly, I think that more than left or right, we should invent more accurate political labels. I made a flow chart. Right Wing: Holy-Hell-Crazy → Ooookay → Fancy-Schmancy Edumacation → Educated Conservative → Fiscal Conservative Moderates: Right-Wing Moderate → Corporate Shill → Status Quo ← Completely spineless ← Left-Wing Moderate Left Wing: Some Programs ← Educated Liberal ← All Programs ← Rabid Extremist ← Whoa ← 0.o????! (NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY)
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:The ONLY thing I like and find amusing about the bullshit "birther" thing is that it infuriates the Obama worshippers to no end. I think somehow you are confusing fury with mockery. We're not furious with those people.... we think they are hilarious idiots. "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: I don't know if you watch Supernatural, I rather like the show... but anyway in a recent episode one of the main characters goes 5 years into the future, to witness the apocalypse... and Sarah Palin is President http://io9.com/5372660/on-supernatural-we-get-a-taste-of-sarah-palins-america
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:10 PM
DREAMTROVE
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:31 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:43 PM
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:48 PM
Quote: Right Wing: Holy-Hell-Crazy → Ooookay → Fancy-Schmancy Edumacation → Educated Conservative → Fiscal Conservative Moderates: Right-Wing Moderate → Corporate Shill → Status Quo ← Completely spineless ← Left-Wing Moderate Left Wing: Some Programs ← Educated Liberal ← All Programs ← Rabid Extremist ← Whoa ← 0.o????!
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:52 PM
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 5:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: I thought the bigger problem was with the Fiscal Conservatives, being above edumacation, but not neo con, which is closer to moderate... But I had to put them somewhere. I was playing that for laughs, so I was using stereotypes both parties would find funny.
Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:47 PM
RAHLMACLAREN
"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: I don't know if you watch Supernatural, I rather like the show... but anyway in a recent episode one of the main characters goes 5 years into the future, to witness the apocalypse... and Sarah Palin is President http://io9.com/5372660/on-supernatural-we-get-a-taste-of-sarah-palins-america Love Supernatural, and laughed my ass off at that part. The more the Republicans talk about putting her up for the nomination, the more I start thinking that maybe the Mayan calendar conspiracies ARE true. 2012 could be the end of the world - if Palin is elected President! If not the end of the world, certainly the end of America. Mike The percentage you're paying is too high-priced While you're living beyond all your means; And the man in the suit has just bought a new car From the profit he's made on your dreams
Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:42 PM
Monday, October 19, 2009 2:25 PM
Quote:"Obama is an immigrant." -Gov Bill Richardson (D-NM), Obama cabinet, speaking in Spanish at the Democratic National Convention
Quote:BORN IN THE USA? Meet fierce blonde behind Obama eligibility lawsuits Soviet Union survivor: President spits in face of every U.S. citizen. She's the fierce blond attorney behind Obama eligibility lawsuits, a successful dentist with two offices, a second-degree black belt and a mother of three boys who speaks five languages. Dr. Orly Taitz, a woman with a vibrant smile and an ebullient personality, has not always enjoyed an independent life filled with promise and ambition. She was born and raised in Kishinev (also spelled Chisinau), the capital of the Republic of Moldova, a country in Eastern Europe that was formerly part of the Soviet Union. Drawing on her experiences under a communist regime, she told WND she is determined to do her part to stop America from following in the all-too-familiar footsteps of her former homeland. Life under communism She described her life in a communist nation: Markets were bare, people had no desire to work and the government forced young children into slave labor. "We'd stop at the store, and the food stores were empty," she said. "I remember we had to stand in lines for hours in the cold. We were in a bus, going home and suddenly we'd see a line. We wouldn't even know what they were selling, but we knew something would be there – some food. We'd stand for two hours to buy maybe a pound of salami or a half a pound of butter." As a young child, Taitz asked her father why the market shelves were empty. "In America, they have everything," he would tell her. "The stores are full." Her father explained that Americans were interested in working and received paychecks based on their productivity. However, in the Soviet Union, farmers were part of a socialist system of collective farming and were compensated equally – regardless of output. He told her, "If a farmer is bright and hard working, at the end of the month, he will get 100 rubles. And if the farmer is a lazy bum and he does nothing, he gets the same 100 rubles." Taitz told WND, "People had absolutely no incentive to do anything. They had no incentive to work. The best doctors were getting maybe 150 rubles. That's why the standards for medicine were so low." She said that, much like President Obama's proposed brigade of youth organizers, the Soviet Union used children for slave labor. "They would put us on trucks, and we would go to the countryside," she said. "We were told to go and pick tomatoes." Parents were not allowed to homeschool their children. They were forced to enroll them in government schools. From the age of 6, all children were required to become young communists. "You had to send your child to school, and your child had to be a member of the young communists," Taitz said. "There were no children who were not members. You had to do it. If you were one of the best, you become a member of the Communist Party. It was constant brainwashing." She continued, "There was no choice, and people resented that. They were scared to speak up." Most children were sent to communist youth camps, but Taitz' parents wouldn't allow her to go. Instead, they gave her stacks of math, physics and chemistry textbooks to study while her friends were away at camps. "My parents didn't want me to be in those camps and be subjected to communist brainwashing," she said. "They wanted me to think for myself. I learned to read by myself, and my parents sent me to competitions in math, physics, chemistry and biology. I would sit and work with pages of problems, and I loved to compete." An empty existence Practice of religion was restricted in the Soviet Union. Churches were closed and repurposed as museums of art. "You had to be an atheist," Taitz said. "No one could go and pray. You weren't allowed to mention any religion. A lot of priests, ministers and rabbis were sent to Siberia, so people were scared. They didn't celebrate any religious holidays; they just didn't exist." She said alcohol abuse was rampant and caused the destruction of many lives. "One of the reasons they had such a serious problem with alcoholism was because there was nothing in people's lives. There was no God, no religion, no choice. You had to conform and comply." During her years living in the Soviet Union, Taitz said friends would constantly talk about finding ways to break away from the system. "They would tell me, 'This person was very inventive and built a hot-air balloon to get out from East Germany to West Germany, or somebody was able to swim across the border,'" she said. "There were always stories about how people escaped the regime." With only one TV station in Kishinev, Taitz said reporters spewed communist propaganda. Escaping a totalitarian regime In 1981, when she was 21, her uncle managed to escape to Israel. He sent her family papers that allowed them to join him there due to their familial relationship. When Taitz arrived in Israel, she was stunned to discover a free-market society with full stores. In the Soviet Union, there were no fruits or vegetables in the winter. Her family survived on canned foods, bread and pierogis, or dumplings stuffed with various ingredients such as cheese and potatoes. "I remember when a lady who came to Israel from the Soviet Union went to the store and asked, 'When will we have tomatoes?' She was thinking, maybe March or April," Taitz said. "The clerk looked at her and said, 'Probably in an hour.'" For a woman who had lived under a communist regime her whole life, freedom was a new concept she had only imagined after listening to her father's stories. "It was a completely different feeling, a free feeling," she said. "There were political parties, and you got to choose whichever one you wanted. In the Soviet Union, there was only one." She lived in Israel for several years and attended the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Taitz met her future husband, a man living in California who visited his family while she was a practicing dentist in Israel in 1987. Only a couple of months after their introduction, he proposed marriage, and she accepted. Her father was reluctant to let his daughter go, but he eventually relented. "I was scared. Coming to the U.S. was a big step," she said. "I went to a new country and married a person I hardly knew. I was very scared. So, I came, and right away we drove to Las Vegas." Still jet lagged from her flight, Taitz was nearly falling asleep as she arrived at a chapel in the center of the Las Vegas strip. "We paid to have a limo driver act as our witness, and the minister married us," she said. "We got some pictures and sent them to my parents to let them know I wasn't living in sin." entist, lawyer, broker and mother Because Taitz had foreign dental training, she was required to take dental board exams to practice in the United States. When she took one of her last tests, she was pregnant with her first son. "I was seven months pregnant with a big belly," she said. "It was pretty tough." Taitz passed the dental boards, and her practice grew substantially. She now has two separate dental offices in Mission Viejo and Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif. Two dentists work in Taitz' offices each week to assist patients. With a successful practice and a growing family, Taitz decided to enroll in law school at William Howard Taft University. She took distance courses and studied from home in the evenings. "I just got books and tapes and studied until I passed the exams," she said. "I passed the California bar, and it is said to be one of the more difficult ones in the nation. When I passed, there was only a 50 percent passing rate." With three young sons, Taitz volunteered at her children's school every Tuesday for 10 years and reserved evenings and weekends for her family. When her sons enrolled in Taekwondo classes, she eagerly joined them – earning her own second-degree black belt. With a strong desire to see the world, Taitz has traveled to 40 countries. In addition to English, she speaks Russian, Romanian, Hebrew and Spanish and has a strong understanding of German because her grandparents spoke the language. When she sold her California home, Taitz also earned her real estate broker's license to save on commission from the sale. She said she plans to renew it when the eligibility lawsuits have been resolved. Obama eligibility lawsuits During the recent election campaigns, Taitz paid close attention and grew concerned when stories about President Obama's birth simply didn't add up. She followed Philip Berg's eligibility lawsuit and several other similar complaints across the nation. On Oct 25, 2008, she sent an e-mail to Debra Bowen, secretary of state of California, urging her to verify Obama's citizenship status before the elections. "I wrote, 'I'm an attorney in Southern California, and I am greatly concerned about Barack Obama's eligibility,'" she said. Taitz told Bowen she believed Obama did not have a legitimate, long-form birth certificate proving that he was born in Hawaii. She argued that if a candidate lacked proper documentation of meeting the natural-born citizen requirement, that candidate should be declared ineligible to run. "She wrote back that there was no requirement for her to check eligibility," Taitz said. "I asked for a hearing, and I received a letter from her attorney that we would have one. But they lied and never scheduled one. It was appalling that the secretary of state was negligent, reckless, and didn't check eligibility." Frustrated with the response she received from Bowen's office, Taitz began writing letters to every newspaper she could find. In her letters, she explained why she believed Obama was not eligible and described flaws in the vetting process. "I wrote that Obama is not eligible to be president and that next time around, we can have Osama bin Laden on our ballots if the only thing one needs to do is write, 'I am eligible,'" she said. After she wrote the letters, a woman contacted her at her dental office and invited her to a meeting of 200 people in Garden Grove, Calif., to discuss illegal immigration and various political issues. She attended the meeting and met Pastor Wiley Drake, radio host of "Wiley Drake in Buena Park" and vice presidential candidate for America's Independent Party. Drake complimented Taitz on her speech and asked her to join him on his radio show. When she agreed, he asked how he could help her pursue the eligibility case. "I said, 'From what I understand, Berg's case was not heard on the merits because they stated that he doesn't have good standing as an ordinary citizen. You are a vice presidential candidate for America's Independent Party. If you agree to be a plaintiff, we will do well." He said, "Let's do it." Alan Keyes, the party's nominee for president, agreed to join the lawsuit as a plaintiff. Chairman Markham Robinson added his name and brought another attorney, Gary Kreep, on board. They filed a writ of mandamus in Sacramento on behalf of Keyes, Robinson and Drake and requested that California's electors be barred from signing the Certificate of Vote until documentary proof of Obama's citizenship was produced. As WND reported, the California court ruled that Bowen "has no 'ministerial duty' to demand detailed proof of citizenship from presidential candidates." ... Taking her case to Supreme Court he said with no explanation, the court denied her lawsuit. "I could not understand why in the world they denied it," she said. "So I decided to go straight to the U.S. Supreme Court. On Dec. 11, I flew to Washington and filed the case the next day – the last working day before the meeting of the Electoral College." Originally, she filed with Justice Anthony Kennedy, and he denied it. She resubmitted it to Chief Justice John Roberts, and he distributed it for conference. "On the Jan. 20, the case was on the docket, and everybody could see it," Taitz said. "Then, right after the inauguration, on Jan. 21, it disappeared. It was as if somebody was trying to please Obama by erasing the docket." Taitz has stepped up her fight, approaching Justice Antonin Scalia during his appearance in Los Angeles and hand-delivering documents to Chief Justice John Roberts at his appearance at the University of Idaho. She also presented Roberts with the WND petition, consisting of 3,300 pages of names – more than 325,000 at the time – of people demanding the Supreme Court hear the Obama eligibility case. Taitz updates her Defend Our Freedoms blog with information about her cases. Her latest challenge to Obama's eligibility is a Quo Warranto case submitted to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, a legal standard that essentially allows citizens to demand on what grounds someone in authority exercises power. She has 10 state representatives and about 130 members of the U.S. military signed on as plaintiffs in the action. Reliving communism "It is interesting that when we go to court challenging Obama's eligibility, I experience such a déjà vu, like I am in the communist Soviet Union again," Taitz said. "I feel, my God, I am back in a totalitarian regime. I'm shocked by the total and complete idiocy of those judges who come up with such idiotic excuses about why they refuse to sign a subpoena – something so basic to their jobs – to get his records." Asked what motivates her continue fighting the eligibility battle, Taitz replied, "I feel that this man is arrogantly spitting in the face of each and every American citizen. I feel like he has just spit in my face. I take it personally that he is trampling on our Constitution and on our laws." continued... http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=94377
Monday, October 19, 2009 2:56 PM
CHRISISALL
Monday, October 19, 2009 3:13 PM
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Monday, October 19, 2009 9:13 PM
Quote:"Hello Minnisota. I'm practicing to run for president. I understand all I need is a freshly minted Hawaiian birth certificate." -British Lord Christopher Monckton
Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:08 AM
Quote:So if you hate Orly Taitz, you're an anti-semite!
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