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According to the Government Accountability Office, over the past five years people on the terrorist watch list, also called the No Fly List bought guns more than 850 times. This is a Secret List kept by the federal government that has no rhyme or reason as to who gets on it and no known way to get off it. Remember, this is the same secret list that the late Senator Kennedy was listed on for a period of time, preventing him from flying on commercial airlines.

In addition to the No Fly list MAIG is also calling for closure of the imaginary Gun Show Loop Hole and a repeal of Tiahrt Amendments which require the FBI to destroy records of approved background checks performed on gun purchasers within 24 hours.

www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/members/members.shtml

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Senator Gillibrand and Representative McCarthy have introduced the Gun Trafficking Prevention Act of 2009. Ostensibly designed to prosecute gun traffickers, the bill would also deny the Second Amendment to anybody on the so-called terror watch list. The legislation is supported by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, New Yorkers Against Gun Violence, and the Brady Campaign.

The number of unique names on the U.S. terror watch list totals 400,000, newly released FBI data reveals. The Washington Post reported that during a 12-month period ending in March of this year, 1,600 people were nominated daily by the U.S. intelligence community to be put on the list due to ‘reasonable suspicion.’

In July, 2008, the terror watch list contained well over a million names, according to the American Civil Liberties Union.

“Members of Congress, nuns, war heroes and other ’suspicious characters,’ with names like Robert Johnson and Gary Smith, have become trapped in the Kafkaesque clutches of this list, with little hope of escape,” said Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office in July, 2008. “Congress needs to fix it, the Terrorist Screening Center needs to fix it, or the next president needs to fix it, but it has to be done soon.”

Obama did not fix it. Instead, as noted below, his attorney general and two Congress critters from New York are well on their way to making sure over a million Americans are stripped of their constitutional right to own firearms.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Any municipality has the right to ban firearms, because a municipality is a corporation. It is protected by the first amendment to set additional rules within its own social construct.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Any municipality has the right to ban firearms, because a municipality is a corporation. It is protected by the first amendment to set additional rules within its own social construct. It cannot forbid citizens who do not live in the city, or who leave the city, from having weapons, but it can prevent them within the city the same as any corporation would be able to within their own jurisdiction, a right given to them by the first.

I think this is an essential right. If a collective society wants no arms within it, then that is its right. Everyone else is free to leave such a society.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
geezer,

peaceably assemble is not just for protests, the common interpretation is that you, as a group, have the right to form your own society with its own rules.

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Originally posted by Geezer:


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Many institutions allow a restraint of 2a by mutual consent, such as public schools, corporations, religious groups, etc.

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That's because restricting firearms is unconstitutional, not illegal.

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Owning slaves is illegal. Making it unconstitutional was just to stop states from making it legal.

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The first amendment does not apply to to a private business, but also doesn't apply to a library...

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