Palin: Let's go to war with Iran! by Niki2

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Palin: Let's go to war with Iran!

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:57 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Byte mentioned this, and it's a good point. This woman, so beloved by the right, just suggested we go to war with Iran--pretty amazing. Yemen too, I'm sure.

It's not new for her, however; she's used it to score points since before the election. Then:

Now:

Quote:
Palin indicated that his chances of winning would dramatically change if Obama simply declared war on Iran:
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WALLACE: How hard do you think President Obama would be to defeat in 2012?

PALIN: It depends on a few things, say he played — I got this from Buchanan — say he played the war card. Say he decided to declare war on Iran or decide to really come out and do whatever he could to support Israel–which I would like him to do. That changes the dynamics of what we can assume will happen between now and three years. Because I think if the election were today, Obama would not be elected.

WALLACE: You’re not suggesting that Obama would cynically play the war card?

PALIN: I’m not suggesting that, I’m saying if he did, things would dramatically change if he decided to toughen up and do all that he can to secure our nation and secure our allies. I think people would shift their thinking a bit.
Palin appears to be fine-tuning her position on Iran. Late last year, Palin mistook Iraq for Iran when she suggested that the U.S. has to crack down on Iraq to prevent nuclear war in Iran. In 2008, Palin appeared to claim that the U.S. needs to “win” the non-existent war with Iran.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/07/palin-war-ira/

One of the responders to that article said it better than I could: "Sarah Palin is a deranged money grubber and a witless ninny. The fact that so many “religious” people support her speaks to the utter bankruptcy and moral rot of their ideologies."

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:02 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

http://adultthought.ucsd.edu/Culture_War/The_American_Taliban.html

Quotes from the The American Taliban

Either you Are with the terrorists, or ... you Are with the terrorists

Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:13 AM

CHRISISALL

I usually wouldn't suggest this, but Sarah needs some waterboardin'.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:15 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Uhhh, doesn't one have to have a brain for waterboarding to do any good? And given she's got nothing to say as it is, what could she possibly have to say that waterboarding would accomplish? Just askin...

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:21 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I usually wouldn't suggest this, but Sarah needs some waterboardin'.

The laughing Chrisisall

She can always waterboard herself

Either you Are with the terrorists, or ... you Are with the terrorists

Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:38 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
And given she's got nothing to say as it is, what could she possibly have to say that waterboarding would accomplish? Just askin...

Please Niki, you want me to believe that YOU believe waterboarding is to get information of some kind??
Too funny.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:46 AM

BYTEMITE

Back on topic, and lets not waterboard anyone, thanks...

Yikes. Okay, so I know drumming up support for a War with Iran is something both parties are after, what with Obama and that "intelligence" we have about Iranian weapons that sounds like the same bait they used for Iraq.

I'm still trying to understand, she's not saying that these are the reasons we should go to war, but rather that she thinks Obama going to war would improve his chances?

I don't think we know her reasons for supporting a war with Iran, or rather, we do, but she hasn't said either the ones that would be used to push a war with Iran to the public or the real reasons the government might declare war.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:59 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Definition of taken out of context.

Wow.

The T.Rex they call JANE!

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:07 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Definition of taken out of context.

As an expert on such, you would know better than anyone.

And it's nice to see you remain consistent - turning tail from all the other active threads you are getting your ass kicked in.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:44 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Definition of taken out of context.

As an expert on such, you would know better than anyone.

And it's nice to see you remain consistent - turning tail from all the other active threads you are getting your ass kicked in.

The point was made. You seem obsessed w/ the view that somehow what I said was disproven, when clearly, it was not.

As to the specifics of THIS thread, look at exactly what Palin said....

"... how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars "

Now the subject line reads -

Palin: Let's go to war with Iran!
That's no where near what she said.

Then the TPM ( who ever the hell that is ) graphic states -
Palin declares war on Iran
Um....no, she didn't.

This video is almost 1 1/2 yrs old. On the eve of the 2008 elections, Palin is talking about the wars we were and still are fighting over there. Then she mentions the STRATEGY with dealing with Iraq and Iran. The Iranian Gov't was and is heavily influencing the insurgency in Iraq.

Nothing she said should be viewed in any way as being controversial. What I suspect is being done here is an attempt to take old , dated quotes from Palin and sidle them up w/ more recent remarks she's made. It should be no surprise as to who is behind all this, and for what purpose.

The Left is scared of Palin. Not just her , but her message. And it shows.
Very telling, is how the video quickly cuts out at the end, so as to keep her comments being heard , in context, as they were spoken.

The T.Rex they call JANE!

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:51 PM

BYTEMITE

AU's right here, and I guess it shouldn't be surprising. I know better than to lift my head up whenever I hear about some politician saying something that sounds abysmally dumb, because it's usually the result of someone spin-doctoring. These people know better than to say something directly incriminating.

Still, unless Sarah Palin has changed her mind, it does seem to suggest she would support a war with Iran, and giving more support to Israel, which are things I disagree with. Israel has a right to exist, but the way we're going about helping them is making the entire region think they're being threatened, and we need to work on peace talks more between Israel and Palestine than we do need to help Israel make the whole thing more tense. And a war with Iran is a bad idea with our current economy, plus I really don't buy our intelligence about Iran and their nuclear program.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:53 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Rap

"... shore up the strategies we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars ... "

We're at war with Iran ?

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Silence is consent.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:58 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
What I suspect is being done here is an attempt to take old , dated quotes from Palin and sidle them up w/ more recent remarks she's made.

Figures that you would think it unfair to hold her accountable for past quotes. But seeing how that's bitten you in the ass some many time (and oh so recently) it's hardly surprising.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:01 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Rap

"... shore up the strategies we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars ... "

We're at war with Iran ?

No.

The strategies we need over in Iraq and Iran.

The WARS , and there are 2, included Iraq and Afghanistan. It's such common knowledge, that Palin didn't feel the need to explain. In hindsight, and out of context, it is a bit confusing, but everyone knew what she meant at the time.

The T.Rex they call JANE!

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:07 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Maybe she should have said Afghanistan instead of Iran. Oops. Oh well. Perhaps with her one is as good as the other. But until she goes back to restate, I'm going to think that what she said was what she meant. You translation aside.

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Silence is consent.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
What I suspect is being done here is an attempt to take old , dated quotes from Palin and sidle them up w/ more recent remarks she's made.

Figures that you would think it unfair to hold her accountable for past quotes. But seeing how that's bitten you in the ass some many time (and oh so recently) it's hardly surprising.
"

Think. We never saw this quote until when ? Just after she made the remark about Obama and going to war w/ Iran. Why is that ? Sure, she made it well over a year ago, but it was and remains a throw away quote. ( Nothing's " bitten me in the ass, btw , but keep trying to divert attention away from the topic. I would, if I were in your shoes )

We damn near did get into armed conflict w/ Iran, if you recall, but thankfully, cooler heads prevailed.

However, revisionist history and a twisted political agenda is what is fueling this nonsensical non-topic.

The T.Rex they call JANE!

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:12 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Maybe she should have said Afghanistan instead of Iran. Oops. Oh well. Perhaps with her one is as good as the other. But until she goes back to restate, I'm going to think that what she said was what she meant. You translation aside.

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.

She said what she meant. STRATEGIES with Iraq and Iran. The 2 were synonymous, as the Iranian Gov't was funding the insurgencies in Iraq.

The T.Rex they call JANE!

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:21 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
AU's right here, and I guess it shouldn't be surprising. I know better than to lift my head up whenever I hear about some politician saying something that sounds abysmally dumb, because it's usually the result of someone spin-doctoring. These people know better than to say something directly incriminating.

Still, unless Sarah Palin has changed her mind, it does seem to suggest she would support a war with Iran, and giving more support to Israel, which are things I disagree with. Israel has a right to exist, but the way we're going about helping them is making the entire region think they're being threatened, and we need to work on peace talks more between Israel and Palestine than we do need to help Israel make the whole thing more tense. And a war with Iran is a bad idea with our current economy, plus I really don't buy our intelligence about Iran and their nuclear program.

or if Israel attack another one of its neighbors... again

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8507482.stm

Lebanese Prime Minister Hariri warns of Israel 'threat'

Lebanon warns of Israel 'threat'

Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri says he is concerned about "escalating" threats posed to the Middle East by Israel.

Mr Hariri told the BBC that Israeli planes were entering Lebanese airspace every day, and he feared the prospect of another war with Israel

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/02/20102417485958414
5.html

News Middle East
Israel's Lieberman cautions Syria

The Israeli foreign minister has cautioned Syria against drawing his country into another war, saying the Syrian army would be defeated and its regime would collapse in any future conflict.

Avigdor Lieberman's comments on Thursday followed accusations from the Syrian president a day earlier that Israel is "driving the region towards war, not peace".

Either you Are with the terrorists, or ... you Are with the terrorists

Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:13 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I usually wouldn't suggest this, but Sarah needs some waterboardin'.

The laughing Chrisisall

No.

I realize you're just joking, Chris, but I'm not for torturing ANYBODY.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:18 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Back on topic, and lets not waterboard anyone, thanks...

Yikes. Okay, so I know drumming up support for a War with Iran is something both parties are after, what with Obama and that "intelligence" we have about Iranian weapons that sounds like the same bait they used for Iraq.

I'm still trying to understand, she's not saying that these are the reasons we should go to war, but rather that she thinks Obama going to war would improve his chances?

I don't think we know her reasons for supporting a war with Iran, or rather, we do, but she hasn't said either the ones that would be used to push a war with Iran to the public or the real reasons the government might declare war.

Things aren't going very well for the Republicans lately - the tea-baggers and Obama's showing up at their luncheon and smacking them down aren't exactly the image they want. So they've decided they'll try to set Obama's agenda for him, and they've decided unilaterally that he's going to war with Iran.

They don't seem to realize that the U.S. has neither the materiel, the manpower, or the money to go to war with ANYBODY we're not already at war with. But paying for things and living in the real world have never been neo-con strong suits.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:20 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Definition of taken out of context.

Wow.

You seem to have expertise in that area.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:23 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Maybe she should have said Afghanistan instead of Iran. Oops. Oh well. Perhaps with her one is as good as the other. But until she goes back to restate, I'm going to think that what she said was what she meant. You translation aside.

***************************************************************

Silence is consent.

Fuck, maybe she thinks we should be at war with "the country of Africa"!

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:26 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

However, revisionist history and a twisted political agenda...

Again, those do seem to be your particular areas of expertise.

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:36 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Y'all ready to revise your opinion of my "Zealot" assessment yet, or should I just wait for her to open her mouth some more.

Seriously, the only way that lady could improve her image NOW is with four inches of duct tape right across her pie hole, in all honesty.

I shouldn't bitch though, since she's doin more damage to the GOP than I could hope for in my wildest dreams...

-F

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