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Keith Olbermann
Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:52 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:A national commentator's rant about federal inaction on the storm-ravaged Cheyenne River reservation has turned into a fundraising bonanza for the tribe in north-central South Dakota. As of Tuesday afternoon, an online fund established through the South Dakota Community Foundation had raised about $8,000 for the reservation, which had been paralyzed by a late January ice storm and blizzard that knocked out power and water to thousands. That was before MSNBC commentator Keith Olbermann got on his soapbox Tuesday evening. In what amounted to a 30-second editorial, Olbermann chided the Senate Indian Affairs Committee for not helping to facilitate assistance to the tribe, then offered the South Dakota Community Foundation's Web site as a way for viewers to help. The effect was immediate, Community Foundation president Bob Sutton said Thursday. He was attending a function in Sioux Falls on Tuesday evening, he said. His Blackberry was set up to buzz him with an e-mail every time someone made an online donation to the Cheyenne River effort. "Within the first 20 minutes, I had hundreds of e-mails on my Blackberry," he said. "It was unbelievable. I had to go out in the lobby and check it; I thought something was wrong because it just kept buzzing." At the start of the day Thursday, the fund had grown to $220,000. By Thursday night, it was more than $250,000. In the 15 minutes he spent talking to a reporter, Sutton said 16 contributions came in, ranging from $10 to $500, from all over the country. "We haven't done online fundraising here, so this is relatively new to us, a test case for us," Sutton said. "The result has been absolutely amazing." His organization had been asked by the St. Paul-based Bush Foundation to help raise money for the Cheyenne River tribe. In turn, another Minnesota nonprofit, Native Americans in Philanthropy, offered to help the South Dakota foundation set up an online fundraising presence. The Bush Foundation said it would match up to $25,000 raised, and the Northwest Area Foundation offered matching money up to $10,000. That means the Cheyenne River effort easily should clear $300,000, Sutton said. The money is a godsend, Cheyenne River Chairman Joseph Brings Plenty said. More than 2,500 utility poles were felled by the Jan. 22 ice storm, putting 14,000 residents in the dark with no power, heat, gasoline or running water. Though electricity has been restored to 95 percent of the reservation, the donated money is very much needed, Brings Plenty said. Many homes were damaged when old and decrepit water lines broke, ruining carpet and damaging floors and walls. Donated money will go to fix those, the chairman said. It also will pay for permanent generators in shelters, for mobile trailers to be used as emergency command centers, and for blankets and pillows. "It's definitely been a roller coaster ride. We're still in recovery at this point," Brings Plenty said. "But I really appreciate all the people who have stepped in. It's amazing. It actually started coming before any federal relief came in." Brings Plenty said his tribe hopes it can persuade Congress to update an old and crumbling water system because, "without the proper water infrastructure, we can't build new houses and new businesses. This is something we sorely need." The South Dakota Community Foundation collection will go to the end of the month, Sutton said. The check will be cut and presented to the tribe probably in early March, he added. The Bush Foundation will provide oversight to ensure that the donations go to emergency and disaster relief, Sutton said. "The tribe will decide how to spend that on emergency needs," he said. "But the Bush Foundation, their reporting requirements are very strong, very stringent. They'll make sure the funds are used for the purpose for which they are raised."
Quote:Because of an appeal during his special comment on health care, Keith Olbermann has helped raise $1.2 million for free health care clinics, resulting in new health fairs in Little Rock, Kansas City and New Orleans. "I propose tonight one act with two purposes," Olbermann said then. "I propose we, all of us, embrace the selfless individuals at the National Association of Free Clinics. You know them, they conducted the mass health care free clinic in Houston that served 1,500 people. I want a mass health care free clinic every week in the principle cities of the states of the six senators key to defeating a filibuster against health care reform in the Senate." Olbermann said he wanted "Sens. Lincoln and Pryor to see what health care poverty is really like in Little Rock....Sen. Baucus to see it in Butte....Sen. Ben Nelson to see it in Lincoln....Sen. Landrieu to see it in Baton Rouge...Sen. Reid to see it in Las Vegas." Wednesday night on "Countdown," Olbermann announced that, thanks to the generosity of "Countdown" viewers, a health fair would take place in New Orleans on November 14. This is on top of health fairs already planned for November 21 in Little Rock and December 9-10 in Kansas City. How did this idea come about? "We were looking for something to relieve the frustration so many people felt," Olbermann told the Huffington Post. "I thought of an insurance strike, but insurrectionist as that might sound, it would endanger lives. So Rich Stockwell, one of my Senior Producers, suggested that the Free Health Clinics group turns every dollar donated into five in services. Thus if we helped them stage clinics in the key cities, we'd get help to thousands of people, we'd relieve that sense of near-paralysis, and we might even put some pressure on those Democratic Senators who won't even commit to precluding a filibuster. So this one was Rich's." As for the re-brand of the Public Option as "Medicare for Everyone" — which Rep. Jim Clyburn attributes to the "Countdown" host — Olbermann said, "I'm sure that originated elsewhere but I think I might have been the first to put it out there nationally." "Get a Blue Dog to support the option and raise a million-two," he added. "I'm pretty happy with that Comment."
Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:03 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:27 AM
GINOBIFFARONI
Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:08 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:53 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
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Saturday, February 13, 2010 11:42 PM
RIVERLOVE
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: ..MSNBC-GE is owned by the homicidal US Military Industrial Complex.
Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:05 AM
MAL4PREZ
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: So, ClusterFox, what have you done lately? Just askin'...
Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:22 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: (FEDERAL INACTION ) on the storm-ravaged Cheyenne River reservation has turned into a fundraising bonanza for the tribe in north-central South Dakota.
Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:35 AM
ECGORDON
There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.
Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ecgordon: Anyone who believe FauxNews is fair and balanced will believe just about anything.
Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:44 AM
CUDA77
Like woman, I am a mystery.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by ecgordon: Anyone who believe FauxNews is fair and balanced will believe just about anything. Poll: Fox most trusted name in news Fox is the most trusted television news network in the country, according to a new poll out Tuesday. A Public Policy Polling nationwide survey of 1,151 registered voters Jan. 18-19 found that 49 percent of Americans trusted Fox News, 10 percentage points more than any other network. Thirty-seven percent said they didn’t trust Fox, also the lowest level of distrust that any of the networks recorded. There was a strong partisan split among those who said they trusted Fox — with 74 percent of Republicans saying they trusted the network, while only 30 percent of Democrats said they did. CNN was the second-most-trusted network, getting the trust of 39 percent of those polled. Forty-one percent said they didn’t trust CNN. Each of the three major networks was trusted by less than 40 percent of those surveyed, with NBC ranking highest at 35 percent. Forty-four percent said they did not trust NBC, which was combined with its sister cable station MSNBC. Thirty-two percent of respondents said they trusted CBS, while 31 percent trusted ABC. Both CBS and ABC were not trusted by 46 percent of those polled. “A generation ago you would have expected Americans to place their trust in the most neutral and unbiased conveyors of news,” said PPP President Dean Debnam in his analysis of the poll. “But the media landscape has really changed, and now they’re turning more toward the outlets that tell them what they want to hear.” The telephone poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.8 percentage points. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32039.html#ixzz0fWgO7DU1 Director: Bureau of Bigfoot Affairs
Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:54 AM
Quote:I bet some folks will make an argument that isn't far from that in substance...
Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:56 AM
Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:04 AM
Quote:Anyone who believe FauxNews is fair and balanced will believe just about anything.
Quote:That just means a lot of morons think that they are
Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Cuda77: That doesn't mean they're Fair & Balanced. That just means a lot of morons think that they are. Just because Avatar is raking in the money at the box office doesn't mean it's a good movie. It just means a lot of people around the world have gone to see it.
Quote: I bet if you looked at the data of that poll you cited, the vast majority of those who said they trust Fox would be registered Republicans. Know why? Because Fox is biased towards them! And that still doesn't answer the original question posed as to what good deeds like this Fox has done. What good deeds have they done lately? Who have they helped out besides their advertisers?
Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:29 PM
Monday, February 15, 2010 12:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Oh gawd I've GOT to quit laughing... It hurts too much! Is there ANY other single person here who can't see ClusterFox for what it is? Even if enjoyable, is there anyone deluded enough to "think" (I use the word advisedly) Crappy does?
Quote: I mean, he really, honestly believes there's no difference, that FauxNews IS fair and balanced, doesn't commit fraud, lie, that they've done "good deeds" (can't claim something if you can't back it up--you wanna diss someone for doing good works when comparing them to your right-wing blather machine, YOU gotta prove it), and that some of their pundits aren't completely out of their ever-lovin' heads (Beck comes to mind...)?
Monday, February 15, 2010 2:15 AM
AGENTROUKA
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You mean, the most trusted news on t..v ? Is that what it is ?
Monday, February 15, 2010 3:12 AM
Quote: Oh, FOX should be more like Dan Rather's " fake, but accurate" cBS ?
Monday, February 15, 2010 5:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Well, Mal, Quote:I bet some folks will make an argument that isn't far from that in substance... You nailed it pretty close, didn't you? Some things/people are just too boringly predictable.
Monday, February 15, 2010 7:52 AM
Monday, February 15, 2010 8:00 AM
Quote:wait for the beta site where the ignore becomes automatic.
Monday, February 15, 2010 8:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You mean, the most trusted news on t..v ? Is that what it is ? You're willing to admit, though, that "most trusted" does not necessarily equal "trustworthy", though, right? Nor does it mean "fair and balanced" or "without an ulterior agenda". Not to imply anything about any other network and their quality or lack thereof, but that simple fact is something you can accept, right? Because you keep using that "trusted" statement as an argument.
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:26 AM
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Quote:His conclusion: For their lack of vigilance and because they “did not prioritize,” President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are to be faulted for the attacks.[the "conclusion" is erroneous; he didn't "fault", i.e., blame, them for the attacks, he said they INVITED it by negligence) Provoked by former Bush and Rumsfeld speechwriter Marc Thiessen’s allegation that President Obama is “inviting” another attack, Olbermann noted that when President Bush was warned by the CIA that terrorists were targeting the United States and may be planning to use airliners, Bush replied, “All right, you’ve covered your ass now” and proceeded to do nothing about it. “Why is it OK in polite company to say Mr. Obama is inviting attack, but you still can`t say that Mr. Bush not only invited attack but he sent the night watchman home?” Olbermann asked.
Monday, February 15, 2010 11:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Where exactly is the lie?? We know full well now that there were plenty of warnings Dumbya chose to ignore, so how can anyone say Obama "invited" attack (because of what they themselves believe about his policies) when Dumbya DID leave us open to attack? Where's the lie? Slanted in some respects, I might give you, by pointing out the hypocrisy, but no out-and-out lie, no deliberate fraud; an opinion. Try again.
Quote: Obama's Jewish Polish advisor Zbigniew Brezinski founded AllCIAduh, hanging out with USAma Bin Laden in Pakistan (Village Voice 1981 when CIA agent Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro was illegally in Pakistan) "Regret what? That secret operation (the CIA backing of Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists) was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?" -Zbigniew Brzezinski, Le Nouvel Observateur, Jan, 1998 "I've learned an immense amount from Dr. Brzezinski." -Hussein Obama, 12 Sept 2007 youtube.com/watch?v=ASlETEx0T-I "I endorsed Obama." -Zbigniew Brzezinski, MSNBC youtube.com/watch?v=NCO7Pr7RJ7s
Monday, February 15, 2010 11:56 AM
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Monday, February 15, 2010 1:40 PM
Quote: It's partly BECAUSE of their manifest deceit that people were manipulated into the vicious anger that destroyed the town halls, believe Obama is a socialist, that there are death panels, etc., etc. Some they started, some they merely promulgated; the end result is things were stirred up or enhanced that are harming our country.
Monday, February 15, 2010 1:47 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Obama absolutely has his issues w/ the free, capitalistic system, and may very well be a socialist. You'd have to be blind to deny that.
Monday, February 15, 2010 6:08 PM
Monday, February 15, 2010 6:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Obama absolutely has his issues w/ the free, capitalistic system, and may very well be a socialist. You'd have to be blind to deny that. Dubya absolutely has his issues w/ the free, capitalistic system, and may very well be a fascist. You'd have to be blind to deny that. Oh, so YOUR statement above holds some weight IYO, but my version of the reverse absolutely wouldn't, eh? See how balanced you are, RAPtroll? The laughing Chrisisall
Monday, February 15, 2010 7:21 PM
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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Did you hear something? Sounded like static. Chris, are you hearing it? It's almost like those signals from space that turn out to be old radio broadcasts, coming back a couple years later, all staticky and weakened, fading in and out.
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:32 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:33 AM
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: SOME things are black and white... but a lot of times what we argue about here are shades of gray.. And the thing about shades of gray? Because, by their very nature, are in flux... you can NEVER apply them to people as a whole.
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:08 AM
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2:>I agreed about Dan Rather and said it was a valid point previously, but if you want to ignore that, go right ahead. How can you even conceive that the editing room would "accidentally" grab footage of a rally MONTHS BEFORE and edit into recent footage of a current rally. THAT is actual fraud, and blatant as well. It wasn't publicized as much, that's the only difference. But then publicizing FoxNoise's every fraud would be a waste; their gullible audience wouldn't hear because they only watch ClusterFox anyway.
Quote: There were other instances, I notice you didn't mention them. Like putting up footage in 2009 as "just in" of an event in 2008? Also "accidental"? Ridiculous.
Quote: Yes, there was genuine anger at the town hall meetings. But there was also immense disruption and disallowance of FREE SPEECH, or of the right of anyone there who wanted to listen to and ask questions of the representaives. Deny it if you will.
Quote:There's rationing of health care NOW, and honest to gawd death panels...every day stories emerge, FACTUAL STORIES, of insurance companies denying coverage which costs people their lives--unless it's made public, then they back-track and allow the coverage. YOU would have to be blind to deny that.
Quote:Your opinions on Obama are yours, and you're entitled to them. We'll just have to agree to disagree, because they're not my opinions.
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