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I laid out a scenario with Niki, by which we could just collectively start our own "ignore" feature, and simply refuse to even acknowledge the troll. Not "refuse to engage" or "refuse to argue" or "refuse to be drawn into his name-calling", but REFUSE TO EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE'S HERE OR THAT HE POSTED ANYTHING. We just carry on with the conversation like he never even said a word.

Just a thought. But I think we'd have to get a whole bunch of people signed on for it to work.

Otherwise, just keep snarking the living shit out of every single thing the troll posts in RWED. Or in any of the other areas, for that matter.

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Remember this is more environmentally friendly that fumigating.....

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Did Billy Mays spray himself, then?

yeah, I know... not funny. Sorry guys.

Kwicko, I won't even be bothered to acknowledge egregiously silly posts. I'm doing my own form of "ignore", and that really IS to ignore!

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Rather pointless without a complete failure-to-acknowledge, something ya don't seem constitutionally (pun intended) capable of.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Rather pointless without a complete failure-to-acknowledge, something ya don't seem constitutionally (pun intended) capable of.

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We must plead guilty as charged.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Okay, maybe not the whole fifth; maybe just a pint. ;)

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
I have cash{y} money that neither you nor Niki (especially Niki!) could ignore the Rapster.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
That outdoes Hitler singing the Jeffersons theme, Gino. I bow to you.

Now I have to go get a new keyboard!

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The most prolific and outspoken Conservative is back, giving you an opportunity to debate and spar with him on issues. Isn't that really why you're here in the first place?

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Originally posted by rue:
"Then I hear the opposite side, again based on "truths" held by opposing views, and somewhere in the middle lies the truth."

That's not necessarily true. It's also how people can get 'triangulated' into falsehoods.

We live in a real, physical world, and there is such as thing as real facts. 2+2 will always be = 4, no matter how many people dispute it.

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Originally posted by rue:
"Then I hear the opposite side, again based on "truths" held by opposing views, and somewhere in the middle lies the truth."

That's not necessarily true. It's also how people can get 'triangulated' into falsehoods.

We live in a real, physical world, and there is such as thing as real facts. 2+2 will always be = 4, no matter how many people dispute it.

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Yup. If someone is going to continue to insist that up is down, there's never going to be a middle ground.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Bingo. When you're talking to somebody who will claim that 95% of Americans pay no taxes at all, and will CONTINUE to claim that in the face of all logic, facts, figures, reports, etc., then there isn't much room for discussion.

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And when that same person comes back more than a year later claiming, "Yup, I sure won that argument; I showed you all!" - well, there's not much left to say, except to look at said person, twirl your finger around your ear, and make the cuckoo sound at them, because they clearly are not living in the real 'verse.

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I can engage with conservatives and have substantive conversations. They're entitled to their own opinions; they AREN'T entitled to their own facts.

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How do you even begin to try to have a rational discussion with someone who fervently believes, for instance, that Obama is an avowed socialist who is determined to destroy this country, and then cites as proof the government giveaways to Wall Street and the auto and insurance industries? Where does THAT conversation start?

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Story; I refuse to do the “hit him with both barrels” tactic; it just starts the very flame wars we are trying to curtail. And ignoring completely makes no difference, they will continue no matter what we do. Our way of making fun of the efforts can also serve as a way of saying “this person may not be serious”, so anyone who might come in has the opportunity to look for themselves and, perhaps, recognize the tactic he is using, rather than think it’s an honest debate and become engaged.

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i disagree. I think the mere fact of aknowledging his asinine posts with the jokes emboldens him.

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Better to just truely ignore him. He is the type driven by the attention - deprive him of it, and the appeal is gone - and hopefully the troll with it.

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I understand not wanting to go the both barrels route, but ignoring without actually ignoring is still giving him what he craves, thus exasperating the problem.

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Did somebody say evolution ?

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I think the mere fact of aknowledging his asinine posts with the jokes emboldens him. Better to just truely ignore him. He is the type driven by the attention - deprive him of it, and the appeal is gone - and hopefully the troll with it.

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We'll just have to agree to disagree; I don't think ignoring has any effect whatsoever, nor do I think IgnoRaptor will have any effect. I prefer the latter; my right.

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I don’t want to be involved in that, and from what I heard from others, it is something which made this an unpleasant place to be. For people like Mike and I, and anyone who joins us, it is a way of not letting ourselves be provoked into actually responding, and at the same time recognizing that there is someone here who does not want to debate. There IS no chance of debating, as others have said and provided examples of.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Jongsstraw, if it makes you feel any better... I live most of my life with people who are ALWAYS three steps ahead. Spoke out in groups where everyone looked at me with a combination of pity, indulgence, and embarassment... and I squirmed inside. Been thru many times when what I felt most passionately about... I learned was misinformed. People all around me say shockingly insightful things, as if Well, everybody knows that! And I wonder... gee... How come everyone is so smart except ME?

Sigh.

Well, I go with the best I got.

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That 'hot wind' has the attitude of a rapist.

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That 'hot wind' has the attitude of a rapist.

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You're right BTW.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Jongsstraw, if it makes you feel any better... I live most of my life with people who are ALWAYS three steps ahead. Spoke out in groups where everyone looked at me with a combination of pity, indulgence, and embarassment... and I squirmed inside. Been thru many times when what I felt most passionately about... I learned was misinformed. People all around me say shockingly insightful things, as if Well, everybody knows that! And I wonder... gee... How come everyone is so smart except ME?

Sigh.

Well, I go with the best I got.

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All he's doing is trying to find a button he can push to get you into the mix with him, without regard to reality or facts.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Having the flaws in your "brilliant plan" chopped to shreds by a kid not old enough to shave is damned embarassing, but a wonderful learning experience in how ones own viewpoint of the world can blind them even to the obvious.

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