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Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Plane not stolen - it was owned by the guy who crashed it into the building, Joseph Andrew Stack.

And reading his manifesto, he sounds like the kind of right-wing, home-grown domestic terrorist that Homeland Security was warning against. Wouldn't be a bit surprised if he turned out to be a tea-bagger.

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As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws......



The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

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I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.
I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it will take nothing less.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Regardless of whether he was a Tea Partier or not, some of the Tea Party sites are implying this is a good thing - the beginning of their big revolution.

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Hey, Kwicko, where is this building? Hwy 183 right? What's the nearest cross street?

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Regardless of whether he was a Tea Partier or not, some of the Tea Party sites are implying this is a good thing - the beginning of their big revolution.

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Haven't been able to find any of this by googling 'tea party plane crash'. Got any links? Most comments seem to be Tea Partiers expecting that the liberals will blame them for the crash.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Hell, I don't disavow this guy at all.

Hes the first, but probably wont be the last.

Just a shame he wasted himself on this.

As to the IRS and the CIA... couldnt care one bit.

THEY are a huge part of the problem with our home, and the sooner they learned that they need to get stepping right out the door, the better.

Yeah, of course... the Tea-bagging comments have started...

But let me ask you this.. isn't it BETTER that those so called "teabaggers" are trying to say that what he did was wrong? Cus just imagine what would happen if folks started seeing what he did as being RIGHT?

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
But let me ask you this.. isn't it BETTER that those so called "teabaggers" are trying to say that what he did was wrong? Cus just imagine what would happen if folks started seeing what he did as being RIGHT?

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Kwick,

Its really simple.

No outsider fucks with us.

We handle our own shit. Even if it means against those that are in "power".

You dont come to my home, as a stranger, and hurt my family.

At the same time, if you are a drunken bastard hurting us... you pay as well. If need be, we will replace you....

(yes, being vague IS a hobby of mine, thank you very much)

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

That's why I've been workin years and years on reweaving the fabric instead of tearing rents in it, cause if it rips too far, all the wrong people wind up payin for it.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

So yeah, I am concerned, cause there's not ENOUGH patchwork to handle a really big tipover, and look at history, specifically the french revolution, and the points made about skimming the top layer of assholes off, over and over again, without something better ready to go, you're only gonna dump the assholes we got for a NEW set of assholes no better and probably worse, over and over again, see ?

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Hell, I don't disavow this guy at all.

Hes the first, but probably wont be the last.

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But let me ask you this.. isn't it BETTER that those so called "teabaggers" are trying to say that what he did was wrong? Cus just imagine what would happen if folks started seeing what he did as being RIGHT?

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/02/18/stack.letter.pdf

Parts of this are almost poetic.

"But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change."

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Hell, I don't disavow this guy at all.

Hes the first, but probably wont be the last.

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But let me ask you this.. isn't it BETTER that those so called "teabaggers" are trying to say that what he did was wrong? Cus just imagine what would happen if folks started seeing what he did as being RIGHT?

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Whatever salient points he may have had - when he tried to burn his wife and kid to death, he earned membership in the "Fuck off, I'm glad you're dead" club.

And if you see what he did as right, well... same club.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Kwick,

Its really simple.

No outsider fucks with us.

We handle our own shit. Even if it means against those that are in "power".

You dont come to my home, as a stranger, and hurt my family.

At the same time, if you are a drunken bastard hurting us... you pay as well. If need be, we will replace you....

(yes, being vague IS a hobby of mine, thank you very much)

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Ream me if you like, but I don't feel a bit fucking sorry about the matter, and I've said over and over again when you put the damn squeeze on folk as hard as has been done lately, they start thinking of doing shit like this.

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Thankfully, it sounds like the nut case who did this was the only one to die.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:


Hes the first, but probably wont be the last.

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A trusted source has told this office that the FBI knew Austin was going to be attacked today and had dispatched officers from its Dallas headquarters yesterday afternoon to be in place for today’s incident.

The source claims that a confidential memo was circulated yesterday detailing that a building in Austin was going to be the target of an attack today. He was told this by an informant who works in the Dallas FBI office.

Four FBI agents hurriedly left the Dallas office yesterday to be ready and on the scene for the aftermath of the incident, according to the informant, who was shaken when he saw events unfolding today and put two and two together.

The fact that pilot Joe Stack changed his manifesto at least 27 times before the final version suggests that he had been writing it for days and this could have been what tipped off the FBI in the build up to the attack.

The claim dovetails with reports we are receiving from Austin residents that the FBI were immediately on the scene after the plane crash and were filming both the building and eyewitnesses.

A separate witness told KXAN News that there were Hazmat teams and fire trucks in place across the street before the plane struck the building.

Infowars reporters who spoke to neighbors at Stack’s house, which he had burned down before crashing the plane, expressed surprise at how quick emergency services responded to the fire. One neighbor, named Elbert, said that emergency crews arrived five minutes after he made the 911 call.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Plane not stolen - it was owned by the guy who crashed it into the building, Joseph Andrew Stack.

And reading his manifesto, he sounds like the kind of right-wing, home-grown domestic terrorist that Homeland Security was warning against. Wouldn't be a bit surprised if he turned out to be a tea-bagger.

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EmbeddableArt.com Company Profile

Embedded Art is a small independent software house, specializing in process control and automation. In its current form it represents the culmination of 20 years of experience in the software development consulting business. Founded by Joe Stack in 1983 (under the name of Prowess Engineering) in Southern California, the company thrived for 15 years until shifting focus to the Sacramento area to take advantage of growth in the Silicon Valley.

Now, 5 years later, the expertise of Embedded Art has landed in the Austin Area expecting to lend a hand to the growing high technology industry in South-Central Texas.

The concept behind the success of Embedded Art is that we provide the experience and muscle for addressing complex software engineering development tasks. Much of today's programming is a step-wise refinement of previous development projects. With 20 years of experience, we provide the expertise that can effectively navigate around many of the pitfalls that snare the unseasoned engineer (indeed, we've seen many of the same mistakes made again and again by the inexperienced).

Interstate Electronics Corporation

Project: IEC 9002 GPS-based Flight Management System
Define and analyze requirements
Implement a flash file system for pilot-defined route storage management (based on the Linear File Storage standard for PCMCIA flash memory)

Project: The IEC 9002 Navigation Database Update Processor, a Windows-based, off-line data reduction tool
Complete and supervise upgrades and modifications
Supervise release cycle and CMS process for product release

Project: IEC 9002 MCDU, an ARINC-739 compatible Multi-purpose Control and Display Unit
Design and implement a Windows NT-hosted development environment for the embedded target's RTOS and operational firmware
Implement the production unit's Built-in-Test Manager and Bootstrap Program Loader (which allows the flash-based firmware to be updated)

Project: GPS Satellite Simulator (Military & Commercial unit)
Design and implement firmware/software for process control

Project: IEC Military Plasma Display, an 80186/82720-based "intelligent" terminal boasting multi-mode text graphics display, ANSI Standard compatibility, multiple virtual screens, and downloadable display generation capability
Design and implement firmware to manage the display, keyboard, and communications hardware

http://web.archive.org/web/20030727044952/http://www.embeddedart.com/

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"Not one penny of income taxes goes to fund any federal program."
-President Ronald Reagan

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Say goodbye to freedom for private pilots at private airports

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"Crash + Fire = thermal expansion/contraction = imminent collapse."
-NIST statement on 9/11/2001 collapse of World Trade Center 7 that was never hit by a airliner

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Originally Posted by DMac00
AMERICAN HERO.

A bigger and better man than any of us...including myself. We are all just talk.

My current avatar is the first photo released publicly of Joseph Stack, American Hero

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

And what they DO, is retaliate.

I don't mean tit for tat, neither, you screw with a DS, you pull back a STUMP, if you're lucky - they generally gravitate towards something that "just ain't right" and make it their bitch.

The party responsible, all of their enablers, the social fabric that creates em and allows em to exist, their financial and legal support structure, the political environment they survive in, everything, anything, all of it - every weak spot, every flaw, they'll be there pounding a spike in, cussin and howling, and their own charisma pulls people into helping them.

From a mental aspect, it's like being hunted by a terminator.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

I disagree, Jongstraw.

You wanna talk entitlement problems, how bout that as an independant contractor, the Gov thinks it's entitled to more of my hard earned money than *I* get ?

You wanna talk about being wronged, how bout the insurance company which told me to piss off and die after a near fatal accident ?

People *DO* get fucked over by our systems, guy, that's an absolute, incontrovertible FACT.

Thing is, most folk have a limited, narrow worldview, and thus the options they can mentally "see" or conceive of are relatively limited, and when they get to the bottom of the barrel, when they've tried every bloody thing they can possibly dredge up from their consciousness and still they have no hope...

Then they either off themselves, sink into the escapist mire of drug abuse, have a total mental breakdown, or do something like this - often enough a combination of these things.

That doesn't make em evil man, it just makes em HUMAN.

Dude, that could be any of us, under the right/wrong circumstances, that's my POINT...

If you got pushed that far, if suddenly your whole damned world seemed a Kafkaesque parody with you as the butt of the joke, and all you had to look forward to was things gettin worse and worse - and you had someone to blame and a couple teaspoons of justification FOR that blame...

The denial you are makin there is the same bullshit excuse people throw at messed up kids, oh they were born evil, it wasn't OUR fault, WE didn't have nothing to do with it, OUR society isn't to blame... and that's what it is, that's ALL it is, just a fucking excuse.

An excuse to turn away, decry and deny any and all responsibility, make it not our problem, but it *is* our problem, even those of us who strive to the limit to not support or interact with that society still have to, because the other option is to refuse to comply, which gets you thrown under the prison if you cave, and very dead if you resist.

Think about how *I* feel having that massive tax bite, and then seeing it spent to murder folks I got no beef with, in a way that ensures the cycle of violence ?

Think about how *I* feel having deliberately and intentionally boycotted GM and their products for damned good reason and having that cash robbed from me to bail them out ?

No, I don't voluntarily support this society and system, but it's the only option I have while altering the social fabric at the source of it's creation in hopes of changing any damned thing on more than a temporary basis.

So don't make excuses, yeah, this guy is responsible for his own actions, and must face whatever hearafter and answer to them, but you can NOT lump the whole heap on him when you KNOW the system we all support, voluntarily or not, is exploitive and abusive in such a fashion as to drive folk to such lengths...

And that makes us, all of us, somewhat responsible too.

Whether we LIKE it, or not.

-F

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