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Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:46 AM

ANTHONYT

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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/06/09/dnt.sylvester.costner.o
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Hello,

Let us hope it helps in time.

--Anthony



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Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:47 AM

BYTEMITE


We started talking about this a little bit here as well:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=43645

Last three or so posts.

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:51 AM

BYTEMITE


Anyway, yeah, it is a pretty good idea, really. The pollution in the water column and the surface area is pretty vast already, so even just pumping at slightly more than the well is leaking out will really only prevent the spill getting bigger until you stop the leak. And it'll still be a while before that entire volume can be addressed. But it's something.

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:06 AM

NIKI2

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Yes, the discussion started in another thread. But Byte brought up some good points, so I'm going to duplicate it here

Byte:
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INTERESTING. It's not an impossible idea, oil and water have different densities which is what a centrifuge does, basically separates different density material, and oil and water are immiscible, which makes it much easier.

There are a few potential problems, maybe.

1) Organic debris (aka stuff killed by oil). Anything swimming around the oil field is going to be dead, lot of it will sink, but at 200 gallons a minute, some of it may get sucked up into the machine. No real problem for the centrifuge, fish and water are both denser than oil, so it's the oil that's going to separate out. But I don't know what the intake or outtake is, debris might get stuck in there.

2) 3% oil concentration is still toxic. Better than it was, but...

3) What do they do with the oil once it's separated out? Do they have to stop and clean out the oil in whatever they have to catch it? We're talking a huge volume of oil. They'll need to streamline this, to keep downtime at a minimum.

4) Corrosiveness of sea water on metal. I have no idea what they've done here to protect the sensitive parts of the machines.

Niki:
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Costner’s idea sounds interesting; at least the Coast Guard is testing it out, here’s hoping it works and they use it. As for where to put the oil, the obvious answer is those tankers BP has thus far not employed. I’d assume they had some plan for where to put the oil anyway; no sense separating it if you have no place to put it, eh?
Byte:
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Well, you'd hope, but I've seen a lot of excellent technology like this get stuck on something small and stupid no one thought of. When you have a pumping capacity of 200 gallons per minute, it's unlikely you have a large enough volume reservoir to test the full capacity of the system, and you're not going to go out to the ocean, dump a bunch of pollution in an area, then test it out at full capacity. I also doubt that any of their test runs dealt with this sheer quantity of pollution and where to store it once it's separated.

If the separator can separate salts for the water (which it might be able to), they might have done that, and tested and sampled to see how clean the resulting water was... There's just not a lot I know about their system. But like I said, it is actually a good idea.

That brings us up to date.



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Thursday, June 10, 2010 7:17 AM

KWICKO

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Every little bit helps. Suck one gallon of oil out of the Gulf, and it's one fewer gallon that can stick to the marshlands or a bird, or suffocate a fish.

As always, it's not enough, but it's not "NOTHING", either.

Mike

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:51 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Provided they are legally allowed to keep and sell the oil, there's several folks very interested in a bit of "speculative salvage" over this, and some of them own tankers insured by the same company that insured the rig, who are all for anything that reduces the damage and potential payout, so there's possibilities here - you make it WORTH somethin to em, you'll see every corp in town jumping on that ball.

The ones I am watchin are a buncha folks who usually build furnaces (they plan to build their own variation on costners toy and put about eight of em on the boat) and a tanker captain out of Corpus - they said if they can pull it off, they're gonna try and get media attention on it, and run the Jolly Roger up the mast when they drop the hoses and start pumpin.

"There be gold in that there water, black gold, and we be takin it, Arrr!"

Shit, were it not for sorting a big legal hassle right now, I'd be tempted to go with em!

-F

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:20 AM

BYTEMITE


Haha, salvage?

You know, considering how damned boned their entire economy probably is, and how there's no way any anything that BP could pay could ever make up for that, that isn't such a bad idea.

They might want to be careful about the Jolly Roger though, people take that seriously and I think ships are technically allowed to sink anyone who flies it.

But sneak in, pretend like you've got every right to be there, siphon some stuff up, head out... Collect some of your damages early, sure, why not? Just wear Hazmat and SCBA.

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:58 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
We started talking about this a little bit here as well:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=43645

Last three or so posts.




Yeah, that'd be me,who brought it up. Props on the follow up too!

Wish it hadn't taken so damn long, but better late than....

Guess this means they sorta work, huh? Let's hope so.






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