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Lyme Disease

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Saturday, June 12, 2010 3:11 PM

DREAMTROVE




Just got bitten by a tick in an area in the catskills that turns out to have the highest incidents of lyme disease >50% of bites. Any advice?

Thanks


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Saturday, June 12, 2010 11:59 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

See a Doctor right away.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Sunday, June 13, 2010 1:02 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


DO NOT eff with the L-D. Ticks are trying to take over the globe with that stuff... at least the wooded part. Dr. pronto.

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Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:39 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


They're right...we've hd a big problem out here with it, and both the deer tick and black-legged tick can carry Lyme. They don't always, and odds are you're okay, but see the doc anyway. If you found it and got it off quickly, your odds are better. I've been bitten more times than I can count by both kinds, and never got Lyme, but better safe than sorry!

Lyme is a really difficult disease to deal with, and caught early can be most successfully treated.
Quote:

Lyme disease is caused by the bacterium Borrelia burgdorferi and is transmitted to humans by the bite of infected blacklegged ticks. Typical symptoms include fever, headache, fatigue, and a characteristic skin rash called erythema migrans. If left untreated, infection can spread to joints, the heart, and the nervous system. Lyme disease is diagnosed based on symptoms, physical findings (e.g., rash), and the possibility of exposure to infected ticks; laboratory testing is helpful in the later stages of disease. Most cases of Lyme disease can be treated successfully with a few weeks of antibiotics.
It's nsty stuff. And ticks can also carry several other diseases.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


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Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Indeed.

Lyme disease doesn't always produce the bull's-eye rash, and it is SO much harder to treat once the infection has been in your system for a while (requires MONTHS of IV antibiotics in some cases). Hopefully the doctors there are smart enough to order a prophylactic (preventative) course of antibiotics. This is one of those cases where antibiotics can never be over-prescribed, IMHO.

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Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:24 AM

DREAMTROVE


Thanks for the kick in the ass. Doc gave me some antibiotics and told me what to watch for.

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Sunday, June 13, 2010 1:47 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Eat odorless garlic tablets and drink colloidal silver TODAY. Perhaps OTC oxytetracyline from Farmers Co-op, or doxycycline from foreign mail order pharmacies.

Lyme disease began across the river for Fort DIEtrick bioweapons lab...

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Sunday, June 13, 2010 4:59 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Lyme disease began across the river for Fort DIEtrick bioweapons lab...


I wish he was kidding - but there's some pretty decent evidence that supports Lyme as possibly a bio-agent that got loose and mutated into a stable form.

-F

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Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:15 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Frem, you got links on that? I mean, links that are not from rense or alex jones or PN....

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Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:12 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"drink colloidal silver TODAY."

Hello,

The finest in drinks that turn you blue.

I'd recommend against proposing treatment unless you're also equipped to deliver advice on side-effects and dosage.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Monday, June 14, 2010 4:59 AM

DREAMTROVE


Anthony,

I would agree, except that I would put it on the other end: don't take advice that doesn't come with fair warning, without looking it up first. If you don't have the background, find someone who does, not necessarily a doctor. Fortunately for me, I have the background. I got some doxy from the doc, it's pretty toxic stuff, but now the recommendation is take a megadose up front so you don't have to take it long term.

On colloidal silver, I don't get it, it doesn't make any sense to me, chemically, and biologically, evolutionarily, I don't see where humans would have become dependent on colloidal silver.

As for spyrochetes as a bioweapon, I agree with "links?"

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Monday, June 14, 2010 8:51 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Well shit, given that I am pissed as hell at prettymuch the universe in general, lemme explain a lil something that might clue you in on why I'd know this - I done already *admitted* I was C-6/CuckooBird, and involved in some of the dirty business coming out of Ft Meade across the street from my "official" unit, a rather unremarkable dead-end supply company which had a rep as a dumping ground for square pegs.

See, I knew the crypto guys pretty well, well enough that I got to laughing my ass off when a couple little old ladies firebombed the 902nd MI building and thus wiped out the legacy and archive info partaining to the massive (and illegal) database the NSA's been keepin since 1981, they should know, them fuckers are the ones that built it for them - that's seperate from the phone call database, mind you.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/20/AR2006
102001641.html


And now you know why I laugh derisively everytime these assholes get called on spying on their supposed protectees and promise they'll never, ever do it again, kinda like they did in 1976 - they *always* do it again, hell, they never stopped, and I damn well knew about it, in case ya didn't know, they're also the ones behind a lot of other freaky, crack brained shit, like CenterLane and StarGate, and were the asshats behind TALON and spying on anti-war protestors too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Intelligence_and_Secur
ity_Command


And like I say, people talk, even and especially when they ain't supposed to, a lot of them guys had been "in the business" since the 1950's, since the deeper they were into it, the more trusted they were, since once your own hands are dirty it becomes harder and harder to blow the whistle without implicating yourself - but me, I was an up and coming black bagger, involved with the enhanced aggression project, and tapped to get sent down to Nicaruaga as an observer, teachin the Contras how to play rough(1) - so I was one of "them", and when these old codgers got in their cups at the blacklist club, more or less a secure shack where they could knock back a few without any outsiders in earshot, they'd talk, it was the closest thing to group therapy they were ever likely to get.

So yeah, I knew about Plum, and Detrick, Pine Bluff, Beale, RMA, Aberdeen, all the places they continued to do that work long after they pretended it was "over and done" in 1973, they had ongoing projects even then, as late as 1989 to my knowledge and according to one very well sourced book, as late as 2000, involving weaponised Anthrax - something which did bite us on the ass when Dr. Philip Zack yoinked some of it and started mailin it to folk, although for a multitude of reasons they were keen on blamin anyone *but* him.

Anyhows, you wanted links, ok, sure, here ya go.
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14708
Quote:

1975: PIADC begins feeding live viruses to "hard ticks," including the Lone Star tick (never seen outside Texas prior to 1975). The Lone Star tick is a carrier of the Borelia burgdorferi (Bb) bacteria, the causal agent of Lyme Disease. The first cases of the illness are reported in Connecticut, directly across from the facility. Current epidemiological data conclusively demonstrate that the epicenter of all U.S. Lyme Disease cases is Plum Island. It is theorized that deer bitten by infected ticks swam across the narrow waterway separating the island from the mainland.


This is useful background too.
http://ftrsupplemental.blogspot.com/2007/02/history-of-lyme-disease-as
-bioweapon.html


The bullshit story that they torched all the stuff in 1973 is laughable as well.
http://gsn.nti.org/gsn/nw_20090618_8179.php
Quote:

The 9,220 samples -- which included the bacterial agents that cause plague, anthrax and tularemia; Venezuelan, Eastern and Western equine encephalitis viruses; Rift valley fever virus; Junin virus; Ebola virus; and botulinum neurotoxins -- were found during a four-month inventory at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Md., according to Col. Mark Kortepeter, the center's deputy commander.


Your so-called protectors at work, folks, with Captain Trips in a bottle all safe and sound, what with their usual incompetence is just a matter of time - your tax dollars at work, neh ?

Consider THAT the next time they get caught in some bit of spying on or otherwise harrassing their so-called protectees, that bein us, and promise with little contrite looks to never, ever, do it again...

-Frem
(1) And that was when I bailed, the whole Contra thing was already twitchy and we had no exit route or contingency arrangements, which struck me that anyone gettin on that plane wasn't comin back - so me and the other guys from LEAP decided to cut loose and go freelance.

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Monday, March 23, 2020 8:35 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Lessons From Lyme Disease: Six Reasons The CDC’s COVID-19 Failure Was Predictable
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marybethpfeiffer/2020/03/13/lessons-from-
lyme-disease-six-reasons-the-cdcs-covid-19-failure-was-predictable
/

Many Lyme Disease Cases Go Unreported. A New Model Could Help Change That.
https://news.columbia.edu/news/many-lyme-disease-cases-go-unreported-n
ew-model-could-help-change

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