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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:01 AM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

I was reading an article on CNN today that questions whether the Tea Party might be racist. I think there are absolutely racist elements within the Tea Party. However, as misguided as I feel the Tea Party has become since 2007-2008, I think some of the racist accusations levied against them (and in the past, the republican party) may be misguided.

One frequent complaint I hear is that racist litarature, signage, etc portrays Obama as a monkey, which is a racist stereotype. However, I recall identical material being produced about George Bush.





This being only a speck of a sampling of what was out there. Lots of monkey stuff for bush, if you look for it.

The problem, as I see it, is that when you fail to strongly denounce racists in your company, then everything you do is seen through the filter of racism. So, in order to regain lost credibility, the Tea Party (and the Republicans who have coopted it) need to denounce the racists in their party rather than denying that such people exist.

This is in much the same way that the Muslim community gains acceptance with the common man when it strongly denounces the extreme violent factions of their faith.

--Anthony





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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:07 AM

KANEMAN


Man, i thought this was an invitation to join one.......

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:23 AM

NIKI2

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Well spoken, Anthony. I hadn't seen the depictions of Dumbya as a monkey, but now that I have, claiming such depictions are racist becomes irrelevant.

And I agree wholeheartedly that although there are racists within the Republican and Tea Party politics, they don't make up the entire movement. I think that part of the problem is that those who finance and are attempting to co-opt the movement for their own agendas have been shown to be racist, and/or to be involved with racist organizations.

I definitely believe the Republican and Tea Party movements appeal more to those with (conscious or subconscious) racist mentality than the Democratic Party, but I think a LOT of progress could be made if they were spoken up against. It has actually surprised me that this isn't so; although there are instances where racists have been removed from or barred from Tea Party gatherings, they aren't as numerous as I would like.

I think part of it might also be that when racism is utlized in speeches, etc., it is one of the things that is overlooked by RWAs...the thing about filing cabinets and being able to hold two contradictory opinions at the same time. Perhaps when speakers say things that are overtly racist (such as the call for return to Jim Crow las), the crowd doesn't see them for what they are and just applauds because the speaker is someone they view in a position of authority.

Certainly the extreme unwillingness to call out people like Rush Limbaugh for their obviously racist statements speaks to the unwillingness to challenge their own authority figures. It continually blows my mind tha Limbaugh can say the most outrageous things, things which should be a black eye for Republicans or Tea Partiers, even those few who do speak out against him are quickly brought in line and apologize. That's very telling, for me.

I think huge strides could be made in recruiting for both Repubs and Tea Baggers if the racist aspect were called out.


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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:24 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


and, Nix, of COURSE you dont see the racists in your own group (libs, progs).


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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:54 AM

FREMDFIRMA


this one is my favorite


but it really is unfair to compare bush to a monkey because a monkey is smarter, and will figure out it cannot get the banana out of a jar without letting go of the banana and doing something else, which bush never did and obama does not seem to learn either, you have to get the troops out of someone elses country if you want them to stop shooting at you.
so i dont think any of our leaders are even as smart as a monkey is and that is really sad.

-frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:05 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
and, Nix, of COURSE you dont see the racists in your own group (libs, progs).





And you DO see the racists in YOUR group?

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:45 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
and, Nix, of COURSE you dont see the racists in your own group (libs, progs).




Wulf, Of course she doesn't see any in her own party. Did you not get the memo...only white people can be racist. Not the NAACP, Black Panthers, or any of the groups with a racially descriptive name that permeate the democrat party...She is as blind as they come. I told her before to look in the mirror. But this is what happens when you get your news from MSNBC and sit around all day circle jerkin with like minded asshole idiots.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:50 AM

WHOZIT


OH THANK GOD YOU GOT THAT CLEARED UP!! I think I'll send a donation to the "New Black Panther Party", got there adress?

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:52 AM

NIKI2

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Silly Mike, of course he doesn't! I clearly said there are racists in both parties, but you notice he glossed over that in favor of a snark. That's all you can hope for, too.

for your desperate need to see/read only what you want to. Go back to WulfWorld, dear, yu can't make an argument against someone if they already agreed on your point.

To repeat, in the hopes it gets through: There are racists on both sides. Show me an example of the Right criticizing one of their own for racism, and maybe we'll have something to talk about.


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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:00 AM

NIKI2

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Ignoring the ridiculous troll among us, and in further response to your crack, Wulfwind, I'm not the only Dem who calls out racist remarks by other dems:
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In criticizing a column by Leonard Pitts, Robert Meier (Letters, June 29) correctly notes that not all racists are or have been in the Republican Party. In fact, in the past, many racists were Democrats. But Meier neglected to mention that after the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964 many of the Southern racists in the Democratic Party suddenly became Republicans. Because of that shift, Republicans have had a lock on the South since then.
Kinda says something about who they identified with, don’t it?

As for calling out racism, I believe I have heard Jesse Jackson, Rev. Wright, and Al Sharpton ALL called out for their racist comments
Quote:

Jackson sharply criticized presidential hopeful and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama for “acting like he’s white” garnered comments such as: “Holy crap, who the hell does J.J. think he is to make a statement like that!. What white people cant see what right and wrong is? To call a black man white should be a huge insult to any black man. What is this, the new "thing" to say in order to degrade a black man? Start calling a black man white, or better yet why not just call him cracker. I think it is time for J.J. to step down and get out of his so called social position in life where he is portraying himself as some role model to the people of this country. Clearly he is a racist towards white people and is no role model when he is clearly a hypocrite. He was all for Imus to lose his job over knappy headed ho. I'm all for Jesse Jackson to lose his job he does not deserve it.” and “I would just like to point out how racist Jesse Jackson is saying someone is "acting white". As a "white person" I find it insulting to stereotype someone to get on the news. Shame on Jesse Jackson.”
That on TPM Muckraker, pretty solidly democrat-slanted.

Obama called out Wright:
Quote:

Barack Obama angrily denounced his former pastor for "divisive and destructive" remarks on race”, “I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday," Obama told reporters at a news conference Tuesday.“


For the record, I hate Jackson, Sharpton AND Wright for their racism, which is abundantly clear in all of them. I decry loudly anyone, dem or repub, who brings racism to the table. Sorry to disappoint...


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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:06 AM

MINCINGBEAST


I cuddle racists, but would point out that there's a world of difference between portraying a white guy as a monkey, and a black guy as a monkey. The latter has a history of unflattering comparisons and negative racial attitudes. It was once widely accepted that blacks were monkey-esque.

I don't think the Tea Party is racist as an organization, any more so than the Dems or Repubs; I thinks Dems need a villain and a way to spur life into their party.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:12 AM

HKCAVALIER


Jeez,

Um...just because Bush was likened to a monkey, doesn't nullify the racist overtones of depicting Obama as a monkey. "Monkey" is a commonly used pejorative for a black person. If someone drew a picture of Bush as a raccoon, it would be purely surreal, but if someone drew a picture of Obama as a raccoon, the racist humor would be quite obvious. Bush eating watermelon with a big grin on his face? Peculiar. Obama eating watermelon with a big grin on his face? Racist.

Obama depicted as a snarling wolf? Y'know, not particularly kind, but not racist. Hillary Clinton depicted as a snarling wolf? The misogyny is obvious. Bush, Obama or Clinton drawn as rats in an alleyway? Just odd. Netanyahu drawn as a rat in an alleyway? Hella racist! Exaggerate the inward tilt of Bush's or Obama's or Clinton's or Netanyahu's eyes? Just poor draftsmanship. Exaggerate the inward tilt of Yukio Hatoyama's eyes? Racist.

Has everyone lost their minds? I'm really not understanding much of what gets posted on this forum these days.

(ETA: thanks, Beast, you've restored my faith in humanity--whether you like it or not!)

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:15 AM

MINCINGBEAST


HK is racist.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:19 AM

WULFENSTAR

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I find it all funny, aksually...

You want equality, you want to be able to truly say that things are equal?

M.Obama as an ugly monkey.

But noooooo! That would be raciss! That would be wrong! Instituional racism and racial memory and all that...

lol

The day racism in this country truly will be over is when we can laugh at these things.

But for now, its alive and well... kept that way by well meaning, but stupid libs/progs... and real racist bigots.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:23 AM

RIVERLOVE


92% of Blacks support Obumbler = no racism there!

Holder won't prosecute Blacks accused of voter fraud and/or intimidation = no racism there!

No, only my white 89 year-old grandma attending a Tea Party rally with her Mah Jong group is a racist.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:26 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Yep..

Nothing to see here sheeple... move along...

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:37 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"Um...just because Bush was likened to a monkey, doesn't nullify the racist overtones of depicting Obama as a monkey."

Hello,

I think this is a place where context becomes important, and that context is not in the color or race of the subject. It is rather in the mindset of the commentator. Monkeys may have been once universally attributable as an epithet to a specific race, but that is no longer the case. The imagery is used nowadays to refer to someone as being foolish or dumb or backwards. We can see this is the case when the imagery is aimed at people who are not of the historic target race.

Identical imagery used on two presidents can not be assumed to mean opposite things. The full context has to be taken into account. Otherwise, we are the ones applying the racial stereotypes to the imagery, and not the artist. We are saying that the same thing in the mind of the Bush satirist could NOT have been in the mind of the Obama satirist. But what if it was? What if both satirists had not only the exact same imagery, but also the exact same message?

Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.

Now, I freely admit and condemn the racist elements in the Tea Party, which was a party I once respected. I wish such elements would be called out and denounced. Such racial bias is one of the things making a monkey out of the whole movement.

--Anthony

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:45 AM

KANEMAN


I AGREE THIS ISN'T EVEN DEBATABLE. One party is nothing but a collection of racial groups looking out for their own. The other is a group of main stream Americans talking about liberty and freedoms for ALL.....Hilarious how brain washed some of you tards are. How your brains work is amazing. I wonder how you have not accidentally killed your dumb asses yet.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:52 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I find it all funny, aksually...

You want equality, you want to be able to truly say that things are equal?

M.Obama as an ugly monkey.

The day racism in this country truly will be over is when we can laugh at these things. But for now, its alive and well... kept that way by... real racist bigots.




Like the kind of people who refer to black women as ugly monkeys?

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:57 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:


Holder won't prosecute Blacks accused of voter fraud and/or intimidation = no racism there!



Actually, that case was dropped by Bush's DOJ well over a month before Holder came into office as AG. You're not too bright, or you would have picked up on that by now, since it's been on the news everywhere except FauxNews.

So why DID the Bush DOJ drop that case? Racism? Or were they trying to hide something larger in the way of voter fraud?

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:58 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
I AGREE THIS ISN'T EVEN DEBATABLE. One party (the Republicans) is nothing but a collection of white people looking out for their own. The other (the Democrats) is a group of main stream Americans talking about liberty and freedoms for ALL.



Fixed.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:00 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Kwick and Nix should really start dating.

They have the exact same beliefs, and are unwilling to see past them. Going so far as to defend their system, when their system is indefensible.


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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:04 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"Like the kind of people who refer to black women as ugly monkeys?"

Hello Mike,

This is a good example of when the context is informative. Once you know the speaker's opinions on the issues, it's easy to interpret the intention of his commentary.

--Anthony

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:08 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Kwick and Nix should really start dating.

They have the exact same beliefs, and are unwilling to see past them. Going so far as to defend their system, when their system is indefensible.




Hey, maybe we could double-date with you and Kaney, since you and he seem to share the exact same beliefs!

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:25 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:


Holder won't prosecute Blacks accused of voter fraud and/or intimidation = no racism there!



Actually, that case was dropped by Bush's DOJ well over a month before Holder came into office as AG. You're not too bright, or you would have picked up on that by now, since it's been on the news everywhere except FauxNews.

So why DID the Bush DOJ drop that case? Racism? Or were they trying to hide something larger in the way of voter fraud?

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.



You wouldn't know this because you're a retard, but within just the last few weeks a DOJ prosecutor-turned-whistleblower testified before the Civil Rights Commission how ERIC HOLDER's DOJ has a CURRENT policy of not charging Blacks involved in cases of voter fraud and intimidation. Nothing to do with Bush, but since you are just so stuck on stupid with Bush I'll let it slide.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:29 AM

NIKI2

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Well, let's see...how is it racist for people to vote for Obama, first off? Secondly, is there any chance Blacks voted for Obama because they liked what he had to say, rather than because he was Black? I'm sure the majority of the poor voted for him, too, and women as well.

As for "voter fraud"...I believe that was actually "voter REGISTRATION fraud", which means that anybody who registers fraudulently can't vote anyway unless they're a valid citizen...some had names like "Mickey Mouse" and so forth. There was no actual "VOTER fraud". In fact, in articles they refer to it as "vote gathering organizations"--organizations don't "gather" votes, they gather voter REGISTRATION.

How quick we are to forget how Dumbya handled "voter fraud", by punishing those who didn't pursue it "diligently enough", even when there was nothing there to find.
Quote:

The latest scandal rocking the Bush administration has its provenance in the issue of alleged "voter fraud." The original intention to fire 93 US attorneys and the eventual dismissal of seven of them was largely based on questions of political loyalty. The apparent litmus test for said loyalty was the willingness or lack thereof for prosecuting cases of so-called "voter fraud." Those who showed promise for prosecuting so-called "voter fraud" were considered "loyal" to the Bush Republican regime, and those who didn't, were not.
Quote:

If Attorney General Alberto Gonzales clings to his job much longer, he may end up as the only remaining employee of the Justice Department. By resigning on Monday, Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty joined Gonzales's chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson; the department's White House liaison, Monica Goodling; and Justice official Michael Battle, who oversaw the dismissal of federal prosecutors, on the list of Gonzalesites who've left the building. At this point, the number of U.S. attorneys dismissed for political reasons still exceeds the number of Justice officials who've left because of their involvement in dismissing those attorneys or dissembling about it, but the ratio is tightening.
Remember all that?

There’s a cute thing the Repubs do...they talk “voter fraud” as opposed to “election fraud”. If you check, the instances of PROVEN Republican election fraud are myriad, whereas ACORN’s supposed “voter REGISTRATION fraud” didn’t change any votes. Why investigate something that had no effect on the election?

In the 2008 election:
Quote:

These days, the old west rail hub of Las Vegas, New Mexico, is little more than a dusty economic dead zone amid a boneyard of bare mesas. In national elections, the town overwhelmingly votes Democratic: More than 80 percent of all residents are Hispanic, and one in four lives below the poverty line. On February 5th, the day of the Super Tuesday caucus, a school-bus driver named Paul Maez arrived at his local polling station to cast his ballot. To his surprise, Maez found that his name had vanished from the list of registered voters. For Maez, the shock was especially acute: He is the supervisor of elections in Las Vegas.
2004 Election:
Quote:

- A fired US prosecutor levels new charges – accusing leaders of his own party, Republicans, with criminal acts in an attempt to block legal voters as “fraudulent.”
- In 2004, a GOP scheme called “caging” ultimately took away the rights of 1.1 million voters.
- Republican Secretaries of State of swing-state Colorado have quietly purged one in six names from their voter rolls – ten times the average state’s rate of removal.

Quote:

Because many voters may not know that their names have been flagged, eligibility questions could cause added confusion on Election Day, beyond the delays that may come with a huge turnout.
In Alabama, scores of voters are being labeled as convicted felons on the basis of incorrect lists. Michigan must restore thousands of names it illegally removed from voter rolls over residency questions, a judge ruled this week.
Tens of thousands of voters could be affected in Wisconsin. Officials there admit that their database is wrong one out of five times when it flags voters, sometimes for data discrepancies as small as a middle initial or a typo in a birth date. When the six members of the state elections board — all retired judges — ran their registrations through the system, four were incorrectly rejected because of mismatches

Where was Dumbya to investigate all these, and far, far more that showed up at the time.

2004 Election:
Quote:

Charles McGee, the former executive director of the New Hampshire Republican State Committee, and Allen Raymond, a GOP consultant, pleaded guilty to federal charges stemming from their involvement in the jamming of telephones on Election Day, Nov. 5, 2002. Democrats' computer-generated calls to get out the vote were blocked and thus voters did not receive the intended message due to illegal action by some in the Republican Party [...]
There are literally tons of stories out there about Republican election fraud. Their cries of “voter fraud” of Democrats is, yet again, as useful to them as “reverse racism!”, but no more rooted in fact. Check out these on http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Voter_Registration_Fraud_Clearinghouse
Quote:

• Alaska Fraud (Lt. Governor involved in ballot manipulation )
• Arizona Fraud (Sproul shows up as a top donor to Congressman Trent Franks )
• Arkansas Fraud (Allegation that Governor's wife obstructed black votes)
• California Fraud (Observers shut out)
• Colorado Fraud (Republican Secretary of State limits provisional ballots )
• Florida Fraud (Early voting problems, Jeb's gonna deliver )
• Kentucky Fraud (Possible money laundering)
• Illinois Fraud (Ballot errors)
• Iowa Fraud (Limited registration problems )
• Maine Fraud Alleged inappropriate conduct by Rockland's registrar of voters.
• Massachusetts Fraud (GOP encouraging illegal absentee ballots)
• Maryland Fraud (More problems with felon purges)
• Michigan Fraud (Student voters targeted, etc)
• Missouri Fraud (Diminishing ballot access)
• Minnesota Fraud (Canvassers to only turn in GOP registrations)
• Nevada Fraud ( Dem. registrations shredded )
• New Hampshire Fraud (College students targeted)
• New Mexico Fraud (Pro-GOP voting machine behavior)
• North Carolina Fraud Slowdowns due to Challenges
• Ohio Fraud (Blackwell's shenanigans, GOP voter fraud ops moving in, Challenges galore)
• Oregon Fraud (Dem. registrations shredded )
• Pennsylvania Fraud (Moving polling places at last minute)
• South Carolina Fraud (Play hide-the-polling-station)
• South Dakota Fraud (GOP members resign over absentee stink)
• Tennessee Fraud (Planted special Olympics fliers)
• Texas Fraud (Austin electronic vote problems, Gerrymander case not over)
• Virginia Fraud Nader Chief - recent Republican activist/campaign worker
• Washinton Fraud Missing Absentee Ballots
• Washington Fraud Missing Absentee Ballots
• West Virginia Fraud (Absentee phone scams/registrations destroyed?)
• Wisconsin Fraud (Milwaukee urban ballot shortages)

You can find each one by clicking on the names on that site. Check ‘em out, then complain to me about Holder.

Way too much time spent on this, but I'm so sick to death of the GOP using their cry of "voter fraud!" to deflect people from their own ELECTION fraud, which IS rampant, HAS been prosecuted, and is something which is tangible and real, not some registration bullshit.


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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:04 AM

FREMDFIRMA


you could also ask beverly at blackboxvoting about those kind of things and she would have a lot to tell you.
oh and speaking of whether or not bush is smarter than a monkey, it looks like he cant drive a boat any better than chew a pretzel.
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/president-george-hw-bushs-boat-f
idelity-iv-runs-aground/19553703

i think its par for the course since he didnt do any better with the ship of state either.

-frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:15 PM

HKCAVALIER


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Identical imagery used on two presidents can not be assumed to mean opposite things. The full context has to be taken into account. Otherwise, we are the ones applying the racial stereotypes to the imagery, and not the artist. We are saying that the same thing in the mind of the Bush satirist could NOT have been in the mind of the Obama satirist. But what if it was? What if both satirists had not only the exact same imagery, but also the exact same message?

Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.

H'lo Anthony,

I may be assuming too much context, but you are certainly assuming too little. And I don't think it's just a matter of intent.

Years ago on this board, I called Hero a "tar baby" intending it only as a description of how fruitless it was to debate the man--you would only be covered in foul smelling goo for all your trouble. He very coldly and triumphantly, of course, accused me of racism. I had no idea what he was talking about. Upon further investigation I discovered that "tar baby" was a commonly used racial slur. I was mortified (and disappointed, as I'd lost a useful metaphor). I apologized to the whole board.

I would hope that anyone who innocently compared Obama to a monkey would be similarly ashamed when he or she found out the full context of such a comparison in this country.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:23 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Heh...

I wouldnt do it so innocently.

But then, I know the time for playing nice, being classy, being PC, or a gentleman...

well... its long past.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:47 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Heh...

I wouldnt do it so innocently.




So, Anthony... You were saying something about needing to know Wulfie's context?

I think he just gave it to you.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:58 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Wulfwind, were you EVER? Not since I've been here, certainly, and I find it hard to believe you were ever capable of "playing nice, being classy, being PC, or a gentleman..."

Maybe you were nicer when your little tin god was in power? Dunno...but I'd have to read it to believe it, I'm afraid.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:26 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
you could also ask beverly at blackboxvoting about those kind of things and she would have a lot to tell you.
oh and speaking of whether or not bush is smarter than a monkey, it looks like he cant drive a boat any better than chew a pretzel.
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/president-george-hw-bushs-boat-f
idelity-iv-runs-aground/19553703

i think its par for the course since he didnt do any better with the ship of state either.

-frem

I do not serve the Blind God.



Actually, that was Daddy Bush, who, while he might not be a monkey's uncle, IS a monkey's daddy!

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:43 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"So, Anthony... You were saying something about needing to know Wulfie's context?
I think he just gave it to you."


Hello,

As I said, this is a good example of when the context is informative. Once you know the speaker's opinions on the issues, it's easy to interpret the intention of his commentary.

Not only do we all know that gentleman's position on the issue, but he giddily proclaims and reaffirms it for our convenience.

--Anthony

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