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Arguably, rebellion in Scotland didn't end until 1747. It happened much as PN describes.

Karl Marx predates Fabian Socialism, but it's certainly an off-shoot.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well, I don't know about more contentious, It's arguably more about resistance to English occupation and rule.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I knew most of that, PK, but not the difference between the United Kingdom and Great Britain.

I have friends who are downright offended when we call them "English", as they come from Scotland or Wales. I have others who don't want to be called "British", but rather "English". Most Americans, I think, don't know the difference.

I also didn't know that part of Ireland is independent of Great Britain, that's interesting. Thanx for the info; I learn something new every day and it widens my horizons. Always good to have our horizons widened!

By the way, I couldn't sit through Braveheart; if nobody noticed, virtually ALL of Gibson's movies make the absolute most of gore and violence. He lives in a black-and-white world I cannot respect. I did watch the entirety of Rob Roy, which was about the same subject, and believe it to be by far the superior movie.

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Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt:
I am sorry that all these people interested in actual historical facts are "ignant". And I'm sorry that as a Irish-Scot (a.k.a. Celtic) descendant I don't know about Scotch-Irish. Or the fictional country of Ire. Although I know exactly what bull-chips is. Oh, and Rhodesia is now called Zimbabwe.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Originally posted by Aliasse:
Hi Niki, I often read your comments and you seem like a passionately compassionate (!) and broadminded person, but - Jesus, did you really not know about the Republic of Ireland? No offence, really, but as a British person, LMFAO!

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Originally posted by Aliasse:
Hi Niki, I often read your comments and you seem like a passionately compassionate (!) and broadminded person, but - Jesus, did you really not know about the Republic of Ireland? No offence, really, but as a British person, LMFAO!

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Really, you have never noticed that she is ignorant of most things? Broadminded? You Brits aren't a very perceptive bunch....either that or you are spending way to much time in those damned pubs.

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Originally posted by CatPirate:
Pirate News your right on. The Peacekeeper white washes "Jolly Ole England" with her Norman veiw of things. The true English are the Welsh who where sold out by their leaders hundreds of years ago. They had been pushed to the west by the anglos then saxons the descendants of germanic tribes. Who were later conquered by the bastard children of Romans, Gauls, and Franks. They are called Normans. The southern English the Romano British children accepted defeat. They miss good ole Rome that is why they went catholic before the Normans showed up with their big swords. King Willy conquered and his grandson King Henry II made a country. This is when the Robin Hood story kicks off with Henry's queer son Richard and John. Then the Magna Carter is written. The end of tyrants and the beginning of law. Then the Virgin Queen pops up later and starts England as a Nation. She had her private pirates called the Royal Navy. Who molested merchants ships headed from Africa to the Carolinas. Most of the workers never reached the new world due to the sailors of the Royal Navy. After the African men had pleasured the blue eyed devils from Liverpool they dumped them in the Atlantic for shark bait. Which to this day the sharks hunting grounds still travel the old trade paths from Africa to America. Now the Scottish made deals to rule over themselves like in the movie Braveheart. Now what happened in Northern Ireland is later with Cromwell a true english men of today's stature. Cromwell was pure evil. Not a lime or a proggie, must be murdered. They killed most of the farmers and their families in Northern Ireland. Then put their Scottish Toads on their land to manage the fields. The few of the catholic irish from the north ended up hiding with the black irish in western Ireland. This is where some of the Spanish Armada crashed after the storm in the english channel that saved England from being conquered by King Philip of Spain. He was catholic and wanted Queen Elizabeth the proggie off the thrown. Between one and three generations the Scotch Irish realized the limes had duped them again. They immigrated to the southern colonies. This is where the mason connection is with the south. Look at the British flag. King George's cross is over the scottish x flag and the welsh flag. United Kingdom of Great Britain all kingdoms are under King George. The Conferderate Battle Flag or Rebel Flag has the X symbol. Now also the Texas forefathers are from the Virginia, Carolinas, and Tennesse. There ya go. The Alamo. Now alittle back The Patriot is very historically accurate. Brits invade Charleston then Camden falls they are pushed across the Pee Dee River [South and North Carolina Borders] the mericans to Cow Pens. The low land Patriots where not as tuff or harden as the mountain men of the Smokies and Blue Ridge. Then the British Army is stunned at Kings Mt outside of Charlotte NC. Major Tarlington a real person from Liverpool by the way was killed there. Now the Royal Army is not beaten but bloodied. They moved back to Greensboro the Guilford Courthouse battle the house in the Patriot movie. The Brits hurt, hungry, and running low on ammo run to Yorktown. Where GW and LaFayette with free black men are waiting. The Brits cut off on all sides the James River is Blocked by the French Navy. They saved the day believe it or not. The Royal Navy headed back to New York. The Royals thought we would pay taxes to pay for the French and Indian War. Which GW kinda started at Mckees Rocks in PA when he killed Duquesne of France while working for the Virginia Fur Company. Another story for another day. The English thought that the South would be friendly to the English because they where in trade with them while as the North was in competition with the British in trade and goods. GW owned the country side and the Brits controlled the cities of the north a stalemate. So hey will end the rebellion by heading south and defeating the other half of the colonies. Big mistake the Scotch Irish of
the South hadn't forgot why they left Ireland. And poor Irish catholics sucking on raw taters got the fungi brought in by the limes died in the millions from starvation. When America offered free indigo [rice no 1 crop at that time] or wheat nope them evil limes said it would effect their commodity prices. The royals ya gotta to love em. That is your true English History. Maybe alittle out of order but truthfull none the less. These people have crooked teeth, big ears, and put vinegar on fries give me a break.

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*shakes vinegar on chips; enjoys*

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*shakes vinegar on chips; enjoys*

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I love vinegar (& salt) on chips - but I don't think I agree with any other use of it... Only on chips.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
why am I double posting???? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt:
Believe me, I don't have to TRY to make fun of you. And I don't put any American fruit on my "English" muffins because I'm NOT a Pom. And our cows are just as sane as any other citizen.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Isn't that one of the best things about the Internet, that we can learn about each other and the stuff that wasn't taught in school.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
I'm glad you're not a sockpuppet.

Empires die hard, that's all I can say.

I'm going to ask a few people and see just how unique my ignorance is, because I'm pretty sure I'm not alone. Like I said, Americans are astonishingly ignorant of the world.

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