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Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:10 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


In a country whose education standards used to be the best in the world, we've reduced it to one of the worst. Yes, money doesn't fix everything, but it makes a helluva difference to the ability of educators to offer proper class size and a well-rounded education:
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As state and local funding for education dries up, schools around the nation are asking their communities to help them maintain their services and programming.

Many are increasing their use of volunteers, while others are boosting their fundraising efforts. Some are even turning to online auctions to boost reserves.

Arizona's Higley Unified School District, for instance, relies on a volunteer corps of 3,500 area residents to help make up for a $10 million loss in funding over the past two years. [while at the same time, think of the millions (billions?) being tossed into the "papers-please" law and the stress it will put on Arizona's police officers!]

"We aren't able to financially afford the support staff we need," said Melinda Anderson, Higley's volunteer coordinator, who was hired last year to boost participation in the suburban Phoenix community.

Anderson has added more than 1,000 volunteers to the rolls since she joined the 3,500-student school system last November. She's worked to recruit a wide range of volunteers, who include retirees, police officers, a former professional football player and social workers.

What's missing for back-to-school? 135,000 teachers
These volunteers can be found planting trees, helping youngsters cross the street and watching over them in the lunchroom and library. They also tutor children, assist teachers in the classroom and work with the clerical staff answering phones and filing.

This summer, a group of high school and college students helped the district upgrade its technology.

In other school districts, the plea is for cash, not volunteers.

In San Marino, Calif., for example, the school district avoided having to pack 39 students into a classroom thanks in large part to $3.4 million in donations from the community, a large jump from the usual $1 million in contributions. [So we've created a country where rich people's kids even get the advantage over others...so much for "public education".]

The wealthy district, which educates 3,200 children, raises 40% of its budget from donations and land taxes. The big boost in fundraising this past spring helped offset a cut in state aid of more than $2,000 per student in recent years.

Parents and residents are willing to donate because they don't want the top-rated district to cut programs, such as athletics and arts, said Gary Woods, superintendent.

"We refer to ourselves as semi-private," he said. "We have to go to our citizens to bail us out."

Other schools have come up with creative ways to raise funds, including turning to online auctions. BiddingForGood, for instance, says it ran 1,100 auctions during the 2009-2010 school year, up from 820 a year earlier. The average proceeds are $14,500, of which the company takes a 9% cut.

PS 158, in New York City's tony Upper East Side neighborhood, has raised nearly $63,000 from the four online auctions it's held since the spring of 2009.

I'm really grateful to see volunteers stepping into the gap, but education is something we PAY FOR out of our taxes; it shouldn't require further donations/efforts on the part of citizens!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off





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Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



There's more than enough $$ going into education. Only , it's the teacher's unions which are sucking up and diverting the $$ before it gets to the students. It's called misappropriation of funds, and our school systems are knee deep in corruption and graft.




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Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:26 AM

BYTEMITE


Maybe. For every teacher who teaches straight from the handbook for their grade and probably IS willing to skim whatever they can because the pay sucks, there seems to be a sincere honest teacher who's at their wits end.

School administrators, officials in the school district, PTAs and the school boards, however... Yikes.

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Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:28 AM

KANEMAN


I would add that the creation of the Department of education began the down turn in our preformance..Coincidence? Not to a liberal. However, Reagan and Paul knew the problem in the 80's that is why Paul was the FIRST to support Reagan...Centralization....Oooops, did I use a dirty word? Centralization...Bad shit. Tea party gets it ...just ask that RINO in Alaska. I cannot wait for November...Remember Remember that Taste in November......

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Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:29 AM

MINCINGBEAST


Most folks blame educators for the outrageous cost of education; they seem to imagine an obese legion of union bureaucrats, doing no work, and receiving exotic renumeration. Some folks blame the kids. I'd rather blame the Muslims, or failing that, our assumptions about education.

We assume that education is a panacea for social woes; simply teach folks more, and they'll stop acting like folks, and start acting like mythical rational beings. Schools aim to transform all students into college students, and in most instances this is a poor fit. We ought to abandon this approach, and acknowledge that the primary value of school is day care and acculturation.

Come to think of it, prisons are rather expensive, too, but prison guards are less offensive than teachers.

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Wednesday, September 1, 2010 11:40 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Heh, look how much of that budget goes into surveillence and security instead of education for one!

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100831/SCHOOLS/8310346/1026/Appea
ls-court-sides-with-DPS-in-fight-over-privatizing-security


There's a good one, the current security firm is abusive and exploitive, not to mention expensive - and yet the damn district dumps em and then tries to hire fucking securitas, which is more or less wackenhut after they had to change their name since their own misconduct totally ruined it via involvement with private prisons (horror stories abound), war crimes, corporate espionage (ask some of the biz sites they guarded HOW those secrets got out!), oh and did I mention fucking airport security up so completely they got dumped and chased off BEFORE 9/11 ?

And so the choice comes down to one set of useless, abusive, expensive goons, or a worse one ?

How about NO goons, or a minimal force, instead of a buncha taser happy assholes who rape students under the back stairwells ?

But no, gotta have the cameras, gotta have the jackboots, gotta have "security" which has had either zero, or a negative, effect on school safety - but education, pffftth, y'all seem to think education is the POINT here ?

Go ask John Taylor Gatto about that one!

Anyhow, ain't the money, it's what they DO with it, besides, what does that education, even a degree, get you but a fuckload of debt when no one will hire you cause all the payin jobs have been friggin outsourced and the degree makes you a liability cause you're too expensive to hire...

But boy oh boy does the DEBT make em obedient, oh yes it does, gotta pay the bill, run that treadmill hamster, RUN!

You think it's about education, and it's not, it's about power and money, period.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, September 1, 2010 12:39 PM

KLESST


Teacher pay did suck about 20 years ago, now teachers are fairly well payed in most States considering they only work 9 months a year. They also have good benefits and retirement. It took them a long time to achieve fair pay but I think it's time we put the old poorly paid teacher whining to rest for a while. Most of the 14 million unemployed right now would kill for teacher wages and benefits.

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Wednesday, September 1, 2010 3:20 PM

FREMDFIRMA



That logic doesn't work when you take into consideration the insane amount of debt they have to go into in order to become legally qualified, and thus permitted, to teach.

Seriously, look it up - Doctors use the excuse of their educational debts as a justification for their price, but if you compare it, the disparity is quite brutal, and only recently has any effort been made to alleviate that mountain of debt behind every teaching degree because folk finally started realizing that the salary a teacher is paid will NEVER suffice to pay the loan back, not if you have to survive on it, too.

There's also some dispute about the "value" of that tremendous "required" education as it seems more a feeding-farm for the educational institutions than any real qualification for the job, and it presents a huge barrier to entry for teachers who already have the necessary skills.

I should freakin know, the first year our school had computer lit they handed the business teacher some old Tandy Model I's and some notes, so guess who (having had at home a Tandy CoCo MkII for months) wound up teaching the class, and teaching the business teacher what she needed to know ?

So once you account for that mountain of debt, teachers DO get paid jack shit, really, and most of that debt is just a "join the club fee" in much the same fashion as officers of old having to buy their commissions to prove they were part of the social elite.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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