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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 6:53 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


We staved off Fiorino and Whitman. That means less outsourcing and Brown (not that any of us are thrilled with the choice) will do a better job than Whitman ever could. Pelosi stayed in easily, and now they'll have a different speaker to be the focus of everyone's hate. Didn't like her in power anyway.

I still giggle over Whitman's ad saying "Anything was possible here thirty years ago", which Brown used in HIS ads because thirty years ago HE was governor, hee, hee, hee.

We lost about what I thought we'd lose, but kept some of the nutwings out. Reid defeated what's-her-face and Murkowski is most like to win in Alaska (I don't care if she's a Republican, she's a more sensible one than Miller!). They kept O'Donnell out; "calling her loss a 'symptom of Republican cannibalism.'" No, dear, it's a symptom of your nutbagism. That weirdo Paladino went down in defeat. They were the worst, so I'm grateful they lost.

So I'm content. The next two years will be pretty awful, but with any luck Americans will wake up in 2012 and do it all over again. Taking the House means little. They can't do much with the Senate still in our hands and Obama there to veto. So the Repubs and Tea Party will spend the next two years doing bogus investigations, trying to undo healthcare, and blocking everything as usual, so it'll be virtually the same stalemate it was for the last two years.

Now we get to watch the celebrating RWAs here get disappointed by all the neophites they put in office and the Republicans doing what they always do: tax cuts for the rich, spending on the military-industrial complex, deficit going up even worse, etc. That should be amusing. Please DO run Palin in 2012, that would be GREAT!

Have fun with your partying; I'm not even slightly crying, or hurting, or whatever you expected. I know why it came out the way it did, and that people voted out of fear, not common sense, and will pay the price, sadly. It's just an election, there will be plenty more.


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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 7:00 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


So long as this morning's projections turn out true and we keep Buck out of the senate, I'll be happy.
It's very strange to me that 75% of voters would be against the bill to redefine "person," but only 49% would be against a guy who backs that bill - a monster who accuses rape victims of having buyer's remorse. Where does that make sense?


Just because something can't be explained doesn't mean it becomes yours.

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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 7:08 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I'll cross my fingers for your Buck, Rose. That sounds like one of the crazier ones. I'm glad the bill didn't pass!


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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 7:08 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Only losses I'm even remotely disappointed about are Russ Feingold and Alan Grayson. Otherwise, I'm not too broken up either.


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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 7:17 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, damn, too bad about Grayson. Was to be expected, he was too outspoken, but I will miss him. Shame about Feingold, too. My sympathies.

Too bad about Bachman, too, but we're used to her whackiness; maybe in 2012 your folks will be sick enough of her to wake up. One can hope...


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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 7:35 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Yeah, nobody I've heard from locally is pleased about Bachmann's victory. Shame that reps aren't chosen through statewide elections because she'd have gotten completely smashed a la Christine O'Donnell if that were the case. But for whatever reason, she appeals to the nuts in the 6th district.

Good thing I don't live there anymore.


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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 8:02 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Well, I'm annoyed over Grayson, but I rather doubt we've seen the end of him, time will tell.

Spent most of my time with the monitors chasing down the endless GOP chicanery around here, in the last handful of years we've found but ONE case of fraudulent/illegal election activity on behalf of a Democrat, and just over thirty from the other side, which tells me all I need to know, especially when all those bizarre statistical anomolies always, always go in one direction - for more fun n games, check the Missouri voter registration logs, cause someone is votin cemetaries for sure.

I can't really hand out the details, but most of the recent bullshit echos the really blatant kinda crap which went on in 2009 and put that fucker Bing in charge of detroit (that being the only case against the Dems in years and years), but this time it was coming from that pissant who wanted to depose Dingell.

My primary role in this was somewhere between goalie and flyswatter, crushing external attempts to access and manipulate the GEMS database in realtime, which is going to come back to haunt some people (Talkin to YOU, Steele) since they didn't even bother to spoof the IPs - and they are most certainly logged.

While my vote might not have counted for much, I spent this election making sure YOURS did, something I perhaps felt important no matter how futile our political process really is.

Oh, and just for shits and giggles, there actually IS someone around here to whom one vote is not meaningless, Yousef Rabhi.
http://www.annarbor.com/news/county-commissioner-candidate-projecting-
a-one-vote-win
/
http://www.annarbor.com/news/yousef-rabhi-gains-1-vote-in-recount-offi
cially-wins-washtenaw-county-board-race-by-2-votes
/

I like to mess with him about it, but he takes it well, being a pretty nice guy and not half bad at his job.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 8:19 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, Frem, nothing new there. The Repubs are really good at the voting thing; making a huge stink all the TIME about fraud on the other side, but being the best fraud/intimidation masters in the universe.

Hey, talking points WORK, real or not. And they truly are great at using every trick in the book...gotta give 'em that...

Hope we haven't heard the last of Grayson, he's been fun!


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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 8:29 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
That sounds like one of the crazier ones.


He really is. It's appalling to me that the vote is as close as it is. A lot of national outlets are still saying it's too close to call, but locally they're saying Bennet will keep his seat. Since the only place not fully reported yet is the most liberal district in the state, it looks quite hopeful.


Just because something can't be explained doesn't mean it becomes yours.

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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 9:33 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Good! We need as many sane ones in government as the times will allow.

And out here, Gavin Newsome took Lt. Governor. That's another victory!


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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 12:10 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
While my vote might not have counted for much, I spent this election making sure YOURS did, something I perhaps felt important no matter how futile our political process really is.



Thank you.

Re the "one vote" really counting, I think when something is truly close like that, there should be a run-off.

Other countries have run-off voting. First round, you vote for who you really want. Second round, you vote for the lesser of the two evils that are at the head of the line.

If we want to encourage voting and make votes REALLY count, we need to institute run-off voting.

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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 12:13 PM

CANTTAKESKY


P.S. I am sad to see Grayson go too.

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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 6:08 PM

DREAMTROVE


Oh, and Carly Fiorina is an incompetent crook. She bankrupted HP and committed some fairly serious felonies. I thought she was lucky when they just fired her instead of arresting her. In politics, of course, this means she should run for office!

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Wednesday, November 3, 2010 7:25 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Good! We need as many sane ones in government as the times will allow.


You said it!

Earlier today Bennet was officially declared the winner. I breathe sighs of relief. My state hasn't wholly gone to hell.

Looks like Washington and Alaska still haven't been called. Crazy, I was thinking the race here would drag the longest.


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Thursday, November 4, 2010 1:14 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


The elections went pretty much the way I expected, however thankfully only 32% of Tea Party candidates were successful.

I did get one surprise. I predicted my Congressman, Chet Edwards would win reelection. They've been trying to smear him as a wild-eyed liberal/near-Marxist for years now, and have even resorted to redrawing district lines to get him out. He's about as moderate as you can get and still be a Democrat. Not only did he lose, it was by a very wide margin, something like 62% going to Bill Flores. I'll be willing to bet he doesn't get ten terms the way Chet did.



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Thursday, November 4, 2010 1:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Oh, damn, too bad about Grayson. Was to be expected, he was too outspoken, but I will miss him. Shame about Feingold, too. My sympathies.

Too bad about Bachman, too, but we're used to her whackiness; maybe in 2012 your folks will be sick enough of her to wake up. One can hope...



No, Grayson wasn't too " out spoken ", he was too bat shit crazy and too much of a sociopathic liar. And the voters saw right through his bullying, arrogant ways.

Feingold. Far past time for that clown to be sacked.
Part of the problem has been removed from D.C.

Bachmann is a pillar of light and reason in th world of politics. Don't know what you have against a strong, intelligent woman holding office. Sad indeed.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Thursday, November 4, 2010 1:57 AM

KANEMAN


How can you be content. You live in a moon-bat haven that has 35 million people, but somehow sends the same idiots to Washington..over and over again. Your state is in financial crisis, homosexuals run the streets naked, you ban pets while embracing weed, any two mammals can be wed...yet you are content. Do you know you sound like a fucking idiot to anyone that knows...well, anything.

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Thursday, November 4, 2010 2:48 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
We lost about what I thought we'd lose...So I'm content.


You'll be even more content in 2012...



H


"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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Thursday, November 4, 2010 6:20 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Oh, @#!*% , too bad about Grayson. Was to be expected, he was too outspoken, but I will miss him. Shame about Feingold, too. My sympathies.

Too bad about Bachman, too, but we're used to her whackiness; maybe in 2012 your folks will be sick enough of her to wake up. One can hope...



No, Grayson wasn't too " out spoken ", he was too bat @#!*% crazy and too much of a sociopathic liar. And the voters saw right through his bullying, arrogant ways.

Feingold. Far past time for that clown to be sacked.
Part of the problem has been removed from D.C.

Bachmann is a pillar of light and reason in th world of politics. Don't know what you have against a strong, intelligent woman holding office. Sad indeed.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."



We in Wisconsin did our part to expell Finecombed, as well as Kagan. How could the rest of you let us down?

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Thursday, November 4, 2010 8:36 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Bachmann is a pillar of light and reason in th world of politics
You guys slay me, you're so hysterical (in both meanings of the word)! Just to remind you: Boxer was among the few who voted AGAINST the Iraq war...there's your strong, intelligent woman.
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You live in a moon-bat haven that has 35 million people, but somehow sends the same idiots to Washington..over and over again. Your state is in financial crisis, homosexuals run the streets naked, you ban pets while embracing weed, any two mammals can be wed.
Oh, gawd, that one's even BETTER. If that's so, how come so many millions want to move here? The best part is, you guys hate us so much you'll never move here. Thank gawd for small favors!

And yes, Whitman was a disaster. I'm sure glad they put her up, tho', just like O'Donnel and Angle, she was our best ticket to win!

I'm a born-and-bred Californians, I've never wanted to live ANYWHERE else, and I am definitely content that it'll start getting better now. Remember Whitman saying "Anything was possible thirty years ago"? Thirty years ago Brown was governor; it's been downhill ever since, with Reagan, Nixon, and now the Govenator. It's about time things turned around. Actually, Ahnold wasn't too bad, except for how he raped our education system. He didn't stand in the way of most green legislation, our smog has gone way down and WE'VE still got a moratorium off our Coast, among other things. We'll be okay in CA. You're just jealous.

As to 2012, I'll definitely be content then, too. By then your "uncompromising" Tea Partiers will have pissed the country off so badly, the pendulum will swing again, as it always does.


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Thursday, November 4, 2010 8:44 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Nah...

Nix is suffering from the disease of liberals.

A belief that they are better and all together perfect.

An arrogance and self-delusion... usually reserved for the seriously crazed. Think of a freak in some mental instituion, wearing a paper crown, talking to themselves.

Safety scissors are the order of the day.

Just let them be. Keep an eye on them of course, but they are about as important.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Thursday, November 4, 2010 10:25 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Hey, Wulf...read your own posts. You best me in "An arrogance and self-delusion" by a mile.

By the way, I'm still loving it:
Quote:

I spent a gazillion dollars and still lost the race

Many candidates spent big on this election. Many lost, a few won and some didn't even show. Republican Meg Whitman dropped $142 million of her own money on the California governor's race. That's thought to be more than any other individual has ever spent on any single political race in U.S. history.

That's substantially more than the $102 million spent by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg in 2009, and over double the $65 million spent by presidential contender Ross Perot in 1992.

For Whitman, the former eBay CEO, her personal spending amounted to $46.91 per vote. That still wasn't enough to beat challenger Jerry Brown, whose entire campaign spent about $7 per vote.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/news/1011/gallery.spending_electio
n/index.html?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin


Hee, hee, hee; California couldn't be bought...this time around.

By the way, someone sent me this today, which made me smile...it's you to a "T"
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"Violence Geeks”: a strong sub-culture of dysfunctional people who are dangerously obsessed on violence.

The modern definition of “geek”: a person turned inward, poorly socialized, who felt so little kinship with their own planet that they routinely traveled to the ones invented by their favorite authors, who thought of that secret, dreamy place their computer took them to as cyberspace -- somewhere exciting, a place more real than their own life, a land they could conquer, not a drab bedroom in their home.

Geeks tend to be fanatics (whether it be science fiction, gaming, electronics, computers, comics or something else). More than that, they are obsessed and fixated on something to the point of exclusion. They use their obsession to turn away from society and not to be part of it. But there’s more to it: pain. and confusion. Their obsession is a way to run away from both emotions.

But let's start with pain. Not fitting in hurts. While one can say that geeks are constantly bombarded with weird looks, uncomfortable reactions and fast changes of subject, realize that adults are a whole lot nicer to someone who is different than kids. Much of a geek's pain is based on memory of, rather than current misbehavior of, others. Yes, there is incredible pain in being poorly socialized. But instead of helping them overcome the past and adjust to the present, a geek's obsession promotes continuation of that pain.

Geeks also being 'turned inward' becomes important. On the surface, it's a paradox. How can you be turned inward when you're obsessed with something outward? One answer is that when you're obsessed with something, you never have to look at yourself.

Second, despite its seemingly outward focus, an obsession is based on internal orientation. If you understand a physics analogy, an implosion is usually followed by an explosion. The obsession is like the explosion that follows the implosion. You don't get to the point of obsession until you've been turned inward for a very long time.
It looks like a weird paradox, being inwardly oriented while being obsessed on something external. However, realize that a big problem about being inwardly oriented is that you run the risk of running into things about yourself you don't like while you're there. And this is where we encounter the coping mechanism of the geek. You take all your extra energy and fixate on whatever the obsession is so you DON'T have to see those parts of you. The obsession takes up all your time and energy so you don't have to see yourself. But at the same time, those paradigms that create, promote and sustain a lifetime of pain and confusion still drive you.

Putting that in plain English, it gives you a way to cope with the pain of how you think, without having to change ... how you think.
Whatever their particular obsession, geeks use them as a way to escape the chronic pain of being social misfits. They escape from this world into whatever they fixate upon. Their fixation takes them away from the problems of having to deal with unacceptable thoughts, feelings and emotions. Safely ensconced in their obsession, the pain of being an outcast dwindles. But more than that, their obsession takes them away from the confusion and anger that the cement airplane they call 'reality' doesn't fly.

There is a lot invested (via time, energy and emotion) into even the most dysfunctional world view. People actively reject information that is contrary to how they think the world should behave.

And along with that comes a LOTof anger. Anger that the world doesn't behave the way it's supposed to. This is common in all kinds of people. And some act on it, while some don't. Geeks, who are generally extremely passive, are NOT necessarily 'mellow.' In fact, if you scratch the surface, you'll often find a bubbling cauldron of generalized anger at people and the world. A lot of the anger comes from the fact that their version of reality doesn't fly very well. But instead of running diagnostics and repairing dysfunctional paradigms, thought processes and developing social skills, the geek does two things.

First, he fixates on something that he believes is controllable. This can be something where the 'rules' are not only clearly defined, but also are consistent and fixed (e.g., computers and electronics). OR it can be something where the parameters are established by others, but -- whatever happens -- those rules remain consistent within that narrow framework (e.g., gaming, science fiction, fantasy, role playing, etc.) What these 'other worlds' have in common is that they are consistent and understandable even if the rules are made up. This is where the geek retreats from the outside world.

Second, he makes the choice to move into a 'world' populated with people similar to himself (i.e., social misfits). Together they create a self-isolating subculture. And this subculture serves as both a refuge from society AND reinforces the geeks' dysfunctional paradigms. You don't have to 'change' if -- where you hang out – that kind of thinking is 'normal.' Just because the geek surrounds himself with a small group of like-minded people doesn't mean he isn't still dysfunctional. He remains incapable of interfacing with society as a whole. But now, he has found an excuse not to do anything about it.

A geek's obsession can become more real than reality. In fact, the time spent 'out in society' often becomes 'less real' to such a person. Think of things like jobs, social interaction, family and other trappings of society as something the geek has to endure between the times of engaging his obsession. Generally speaking, he's only 'half there' during such times. (BTW, did you just see another coping mechanism sneak by?) In a very real sense, the geek only 'comes alive' while engaging in his obsession and related fantasies

Geeks come in many different flavors. Most of them are harmless, poorly socialized, obsessed people trapped in their own heads. They are confused about how to interface with the rest of the world and in a lot of pain because of a lifetime of lacking effective coping skills.

In that sense, there's a lot to feel sorry about these guys. They really are lost in a confusing world that they don't understand. ). There's a lot of emotional pain, repression and anger in being a geek. But most of them spend their time safely pouring all their energy into whatever subculture they have gravitated to.

Violence Geek: Someone whose fantasy world isn't about reading the adventures of others. In his fantasy world, HE is Conan the Destroyer … about to unleash carnage and death on the evil world that hurt him. In fact, he's looking forward to it. All he needs is the right opportunity to give himself permission to go on a rampage.

Remember that anger, pain and confusion? While other kinds of geeks safely channel it into their obsession, this kind of geek's fixation IS violence. Unlike most geeks, these folks are actively looking to direct all that anger, pain and confusion outward. They’re just itchin' to find an excuse to come uncorked. They are fixated on the 'idea' of violence.'

At the same time, they are terrified of being victims of actual violence. They are an ugly blend of anger, aggressiveness, self-loathing, fear and paranoia. On the plus side, their fear keeps them in check. On the negative side, they are a case of mens rea addressed "To whom it may concern."

They are looking for that 'one, ultimate thing that is guaranteed to stop an attacker.' Here's the real hitch: And does it BEFORE the attacker can hurt them. In their fantasies, they come out of Ragnoraak unscathed, and not only without PTSD, but basking in afterglow.

The problem with violence geeks is -- as much as they go on about 'self-defense, and no matter how much they fantasize about heroic combat against hordes of slavering bad guys -- what they are looking for is revenge. After a lifetime of feeling inferior, a lifetime of backing down and a nearly pathological hatred of the idea that they are not ALPHA MALES, they're looking for payback. More specifically, they're looking for an excuse to 'go off' on someone.

That's what I meant by 'a case of mens rea ( guilty mind ) addressed to 'whom it may concern." While the guys who actually bullied them in school are long gone, they'll settle for anyone who even vaguely resembles their past tormentors.

Basically these guys are 'high centered' between their obsession with the idea of violence and their pants wetting panic of actually facing it. The sad thing is they are fixated on the juvenile concept that a "REAL man" has to be violent. Despite all their attention to the subject, everything is basically framed in the concept of a high school fight on steroids. They are best understood as a bunch of betas, pretending to be alphas -- but having no clue as to what it takes to be an alpha/leader.

They give themselves permission to become as emotional and obnoxious as possible. And they do this while expecting others to exercise self-control. These sort of people refuse to believe that they are being violent. (Of course, their definition of 'violence' seems to be "any level of force beyond what I am comfortable using to get what I want." Their yelling, screaming, poking, prodding self-rationalizing hissy-fit throwing behavior isn't violent. The other guy who slugs them for acting that way IS).

You won't read it, of course, but it sums you up beautifully, and more than matches some others here. Helped me understand a lot about you.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Thursday, November 4, 2010 11:03 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Well, I personally feel that the first part of that article was a biased and unfair attack of "geeks" that really missed the mark on quite a few things. Or at least I'll say that the geeks I socialize with and hang out with are not in any way like that article claimed.

But the second part is Wulf to a tee.


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Thursday, November 4, 2010 11:51 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Nah...

Nix is suffering from the disease of liberals.

A belief that they are better and all together perfect.

An arrogance and self-delusion... usually reserved for the seriously crazed. Think of a freak in some mental instituion, wearing a paper crown, talking to themselves.

Safety scissors are the order of the day.

Just let them be. Keep an eye on them of course, but they are about as important.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"




Dude - You're a LIBERAL?! Seriously?

You do realize that you fit every "symptom" you just listed, right?


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, November 4, 2010 3:40 PM

KANEMAN


You are content because you live in Cali...Cali is to pot-smokers what Pakistian is to Alfuckingqueda you hippie....What matters is the REST of America is pissed off at your Prez...But this time we have PA, Florida, and Ohio....say goodbye nigger lover...

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Thursday, November 4, 2010 5:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by kaneman:
You are content because you live in Cali...Cali is to pot-smokers what Pakistian is to Alfuckingqueda you hippie....What matters is the REST of America is pissed off at your Prez...But this time we have PA, Florida, and Ohio....say goodbye nigger lover...



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Cali is to pot-smokers what Pakistian is to Alfuckingqueda...


A libertarian paradise?


Every time Dreamtrove tries to insist that the tea-baggers aren't a bunch of racist assholes, all I have to do is hold up KKKaney here. And Wulfie. And Rappy.




The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

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I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Friday, November 5, 2010 3:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Feingold. Far past time for that clown to be sacked.
Part of the problem has been removed from D.C.

Oh, so you liked the bank bailout? 'Cause Feingold voted against it.

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Friday, November 5, 2010 3:23 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Anyone know how the Kamala Harris race is shaping up?

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Friday, November 5, 2010 3:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by SignyM:
Anyone know how the Kamala Harris race is shaping up?



She's well ahead, last I heard, and looks like she's been all but officially declared the winner.

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Friday, November 5, 2010 3:56 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Feingold. Far past time for that clown to be sacked.
Part of the problem has been removed from D.C.

Oh, so you liked the bank bailout? 'Cause Feingold voted against it.




He also voted against the wars and the Patriot Act, and he was the ONLY one who pointed out that the warrantless wiretaps were being recklessly abused, just as he said they would be when the program was exposed.

So OF COURSE the tea-baggers see him as part of the problem - he was getting in the way of their fascism.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

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Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


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Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Friday, November 5, 2010 5:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I kind of agree, Cuda; either the word has been bastardized to have a more general meaning or he's behind the times, 'cuz to me "geek" means a lot more than that...people who are fascinated with the inner workintgs of computers, for example, people who enjoy talking "geek stuff" to others, and more. But when it comes to Wulf, I think his description, psychologically, is right on.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Friday, November 5, 2010 9:34 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Yanno, I got a movie suggestion for all them mighty-whitey-righties, not that they'll watch it...

Just a little dose of where the end result of that kind of agenda leads, you might say.

Old british flick, circa 1984, called Threads
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads

THIS is the world your warmongering will create.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, November 5, 2010 9:41 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ay-yup! But it's a waste of time, they won't even click on the link.

Another they won't click on which is where they're headed if they got their way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

Gawd I loved that movie!!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Friday, November 5, 2010 9:43 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Funny how you loved V... when its us that V stood (and stands) for, Nix.



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Friday, November 5, 2010 9:44 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Ay-yup! But it's a waste of time, they won't even click on the link.

Another they won't click on which is where they're headed if they got their way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

Gawd I loved that movie!!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off






Surprised Wulf boy hasn't been plastering the board with YouTube clips of this today. But I fully intend on watching it tonight and taking absolutely nothing away from watching it except for "Wow, that sure was a good movie. I really enjoy watching it."


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Friday, November 5, 2010 9:48 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Funny how you loved V... when its us that V stood (and stands) for, Nix.



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"





Yeah. Keep telling yourself that boy.


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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:19 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, that's a great movie, just as a movie; I must have watched it five times when it came out. Won't watch it again for a while yet, don't want to know it TOO well. The idea of a despot using religion and nationalism to rule the people...just what the Tea Party would like to have!

I couldn't watch the Beck clip, just watching him makes me head for the bathroom, and the idea of him being V is, well, just


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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:26 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


It's not saying Beck is V. It's saying Beck is Lewis Prothero, "The Voice Of London". Surely you don't need to watch the clip to realize the staggering similarities between the two though Niki.


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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:42 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, well, THAT makes sense. You're right, no need to watch to see the similarities: Puffed-up egomaniac; remember the shower scene? Fits nicely.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:44 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


One more for Wulf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norsefire

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Moore predicted that the Labour Party would win the British general election of 1983 and would disarm all of the United Kingdom's nuclear capabilities. The story presents a post-apocalyptic Britain that has narrowly avoided an international nuclear war from 1988 on. As displayed during the story of Evey Hammond, although the United Kingdom did not suffer any nuclear attacks, the effects of full-scale nuclear war on other countries had severe effects on the environment, and thus on agriculture. This in its turn had a knock-on effect on the British economy, and mass riots broke out. As Evey relays to V, the protagonist, the government quickly collapsed and chaos overran the country.

The situation turned after several years (approximately 1992 in the story). From the madness of the violence came the ultra right-wing Norsefire regime: fascists (similar to Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists) that united with the surviving big companies and businesses, giving them the appearance of wealth and stability. However, while the Norsefire regime did indeed bring order back to the country, this order came at a cost: minorities such as Indians, Chinese and Pakistanis were rounded up and sent to concentration camps. Other groups such as Jews, Muslims and homosexuals and political leftists were also persecuted. With their potential enemies all removed within a short space of time, Norsefire began consolidating their power over the country. They began to sink their influence into the Church of England, giving it more power and influence. They began promoting and demoting members of the clergy as they saw fit. They also took over the television companies, creating NTV (Norsefire Television), and implemented the technologies that would allow for a closely-monitored society, including closed-circuit television. In the novel the British monarchy continues under Queen Zara. No reference is made to the monarchy in the film.

By the time the story of the graphic novel has begun, Norsefire has shut down the concentration camps and is essentially in complete control of society. Although competition exists between the varying branches of the state (similar to the rivalry between the SS and the SA in Nazi Germany), they generally have complete control over Great Britain. The head of the party is Leader Adam Susan, a self-proclaimed fascist who seems to worship Fate, the super-computer surveillance system that oversees the nation. Their control over the state soon faces a threat from V, the anarchist protagonist of the story who seeks to overthrow the regime and allow the people to decide their own fate.



Yeah, V would have been on your side alright. But hey, you've repeatedly proved that context doesn't matter whatsoever in your little world. All you need is your catchy little soundbite and that proves more than anything that they're heroes and fighting for what you believe in.


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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Given that, I watched it. The comparison is right on, and even tho' it meant watching too much of Beck pontificating (I held it in, I'm proud of myself), It WAS terribly amusing. Thanx.

Isn't it hysterical that these pathetic sould think THEY're the ones "With God On Our Side", and are completely unable to see the comparison between them and Prothero? Fascinating!




Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Friday, November 5, 2010 10:19 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Waaay too close to home for Wulf, Niki.

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