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Originally posted by Niki2:
That was some "indefinitely"! Personally, I think they caved due to pressure, which is a shame.

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It would be nice if they had pulled him aside and, along with the chastizement for breaking their rules, asked him to tone down his ugliness in referring to others, but that's just a dream.

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I kind of disagree that MSNBC is a "news" operation as opposed to Fox being a "political" operation; I think they both are almost solely political. The difference for me is in how they go about it; Fox being quite happy to make up lies, report unsubstantiated material, and do things like the faking of the video of a rally. I think MSNBC makes more of an effort to verify their facts, but to me they are every bit as left leaning in their way as Fox is right.

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MSNBC’s newscasts that night were dominated by liberals, an arrangement that came under scrutiny after his suspension.

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is interesting to me; I'm surprised they scrutinized it, given surely THEY are fully aware that they are liberally-dominated, it shouldn't come as any surprise. If they were serious about being a news organization, they'd have done something about it long ago. I'm not aware of any political pundits or analysis on their station, certainly.

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One COULD make the argument that Fox has some shows which are actually devoted to news in general, while MSNBC is almost exclusively politics, except that Fox allows their ideology to creep into what they tout as pure "news", so it kind of evens out, in my opinion.

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I wish they had taken time to consider someone else as a replacement for Olobermann, as I find him an embarrassment to the left (much as the "Ed Show" is) and would like more objective reporting, which I believe Maddow represents. I'm also surprised to find it is still the most popular show on MSNBC, as that tells me that many on the left get their opinions more from him than from others, which I think is a shame. No surprise, I guess, AFs on the left are as susceptible to watching what reinforces their own beliefs as anyone else. Such is life.

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As to election night, you misunderstood. I have no problem with each network’s election-night coverage being done by their respective pundits; my surprise was that they would feel any need for “scrutiny” of it, given that MSNBC is so left leaning that surely they KNEW it would be dominated by liberals.

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I wasn’t “calling” for Olberman to be replaced, I was expressing a wish and my opinion. That has no effect on anyone besides us here, and is merely my opinion.

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I do think there’s a difference between the shows on MSNBC, and that some are more objective than others. I tend to watch Matthews (tho’ I change channels when he starts talking over people!) and Maddow because they spend less time (relatively) spouting and more time on editorials where they have their facts check, and which they put forth in a somewhat less biased way. It’s all relative; O’Reilly is smarter and less insane than Beck; it’s all relative.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
So the marketing ploy to find out if there were any liberals left, worked?

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Oooooo, big surprise!

Im shocked!

Why, there does happen to be some evil and dark left in America!

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