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Korean War?
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:40 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:07 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Hello, Did the Koreas just start shooting at each other?
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:09 AM
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Hello, So you don't think North Korea fired at South Korea? You think we did it? I'm not sure I can make that leap.
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:06 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:North Korea's supreme military command blamed South Korea for the incident. 'The South Korean enemy, despite our repeated warnings, committed reckless military provocations of firing artillery shells into our maritime territory near Yeonpyeong island beginning 1300 (0400 GMT)," the state-run KCNA news agency quoted it as saying. The North would "continue to make merciless military attacks with no hesitation if the South Korean enemy dares to invade our sea territory by 0.001mm", it warned. "It is our military's traditional response to quell provocative actions with a merciless thunderbolt."
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:03 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:"Pyongyang accused the South of firing first. The Southern military said it had conducted exercises but shelling was directed away from the North."
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:43 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Quote: Pyongyang accused the South of firing first. The Southern military said it had conducted exercises but shelling was directed away from the North." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005 Interesting admission that last bit, eh? Makes it sound like the South fired first but with slightly bad aim. Funny how that aim was at NK.
Quote: Pyongyang accused the South of firing first. The Southern military said it had conducted exercises but shelling was directed away from the North." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:49 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:50 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:28 AM
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Does this mean M*A*S*H is coming back?
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Quote: Pyongyang accused the South of firing first. The Southern military said it had conducted exercises but shelling was directed away from the North." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005 Interesting admission that last bit, eh? Makes it sound like the South fired first but with slightly bad aim. Funny how that aim was at NK.
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:38 AM
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:16 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:24 PM
Quote:Why did this happen? Tension has been running particularly high in the Korean peninsula after the March 26 sinking of the South Korean warship Cheonan. Tuesday's incident, however, is one of the most serious that has occurred in recent years. The hostilities come as North Korea is undergoing transition -- the ailing and reclusive leader Kim Jong Il is believed to be in the process of transferring power to his son Kim Jong Un. Some analysts believe upcoming internal changes have prompted North Korea to flex its military muscle in recent days. Tuesday's violence was also preceded by the revelation of a North Korean uranium enrichment program. Has this happened before? Yes, Yeonpyeong Island has come under attack before. Last January, South Korea reported that the North had fired shells that fell in waters north of the Northern Limit Line, the de facto inter-Korean maritime border. North Korea wants that border redrawn farther south. Over the past six decades, small-scale skirmishes have flared repeatedly along both land and sea borders as each state aims to reunify the peninsula according to its own terms and system of government. Deadly naval clashes occurred along the demarcation line in 1999, 2002 and 2009. Will the two nations go to war? South Korea put its military on high alert following Tuesday's exchange of fire. But whether that will translate into further military action is impossible to predict. Events in the past few months suggested a slight thawing of icy relations. North and South Korea had begun discussions on the possible resumption of reunions of family members separated by the Korean war and North Korea has requested military talks. In early September, the South offered food aid to the impoverished North for the first time in three years. Given the closed nature of North Korean politics, it's hard to tell what changes the new leadership of Kim Jong Un will entail or whether re-engagement is on the table. Another wild card is the influence of China; some South Koreans fear a Chinese takeover in the event of a North Korean collapse. Some analysts viewed Tuesday's exchange as North Korea flexing its military muscle in the light of its leadership transition. Others said it was related to the nuclear issue. How will nuclear talks be affected? Washington accuses Pyongyang of running a secret uranium-based nuclear program. The United States, along with the two Koreas, Russia, Japan and China, have been involved in what is called the Six Party Talks. But those talks have been slow and arduous and in limbo since 2008. And after the revelation of the North Korean uranium enrichment facility a few days ago, the resumption of talks seemed in jeopardy. Stephen Bosworth, the U.S. special envoy on North Korean denuclearization, said Tuesday's hostilities will prove a further obstacle. Choi Jin-wook, senior researcher at the Korea Institute of National Unification, said the North is "frustrated with Washington's response to their uranium program and they think that Washington has almost given up on negotiations with North Korea." "I think they realize they can't expect anything from Washington or Seoul for several months, so I think they made the provocation," Choi said.
Quote:The first responsibility of the United States must remain the preservation of deterrence from outright return to war. The attacks leave the alliance with few good options for reprisal without risking a far less desirable renewal of conflict. The United States must work with South Korea to bolster deterrence, check North Korean aggression and be ready to turn it back, but only if absolutely necessary. We will also have to operate without fully understanding the power at play in North Korea. This year has already been a deadly one as an ailing Kim Jong Il accelerated the likely dynastic transition in power to an ill-prepared son who will be captive to aging generals in the Korean People's Army. In April, 46 South Korean crew members aboard the naval vessel Cheonan died when the vessel was ripped in two by a North Korean torpedo.
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: If you've got nothing to hide, why lie ? S.Korea admitted they were testing. They're fully in their right to test. What's the point in denying it?
Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:32 PM
WHOZIT
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