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First Wikipedia Edit

POSTED BY: ANTHONYT
UPDATED: Saturday, December 4, 2010 06:54
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Friday, December 3, 2010 3:10 PM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Today, for the first time, I edited a wikipedia entry to add a reference.

For some reason it made me proud. Perhaps it is the idea of adding, if only tangentially and inconsequentially, to the body of human knowledge. (Although in this case merely as an indexer pointing from one place to another place of potential relevant interest.)

I thought to share this personal milestone with you, my online mentors.

--Anthony

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Friday, December 3, 2010 3:35 PM

CANTTAKESKY

Very cool! I have added to wikipedia before too. It feels good, doesn't it?

Congrats!

--Can't Take (my gorram) Sky

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Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM

DREAMTROVE

I have done it a couple of times, but there are more times when I have wanted to do it. A better reference getting tool would help.

I remember once there was very bogus information about witchcraft on the Wicca wikipedia entry. The summation of the attitude was that the entire faith was a concoction of Gerald Gardner. I knew that not only was this not the case, he had not substantially changed it. His work was cultural restoration, and he was the second person to work on it IIRC, after Alistair Crowley, but the main reason I knew this was that I had encountered at some point many years ago the logs of Roman Centurions who detailed the accounts of the Celtic witches in druids in roman Gaul and Britain. I can only assume that Gardner had access to the same logs, as well as a great deal more source material. My only real bone to pick with Gardner was that his own christian upbringing causes him to recreate the religion in a very western mold, probably not intentionally, but because of his own mindset. This causes him to say things like "And then the goddess came down to the Earth and said behold..." whatever. Okay, that's not the way traditional worshipers would have written it, sure, that's more sort of substituting goddess for god. It would have been closer to say that the Goddess *was* the Earth, and didn't say a blessed thing.

But that doesn't mean that Garner just "made the whole thing up" but without those roman journals in front of me, I couldn't make the edit. I thought I nice research tool to help editors find sources might be nice, might lessen the workload for those who edit, as well.

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Friday, December 3, 2010 4:55 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Thank you, it does feel good. Now I'll have to find a more significant contribution.

I didn't realize that Ed Crowley was into anything other than inventing things from whole cloth. A clever charlatan, I always thought. Something like Mr. Hubbard, but with more flair and cooler clothes.

--Anthony

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Friday, December 3, 2010 4:56 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Welcome to the Collective Consciousness of Mankind.

-F

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Saturday, December 4, 2010 5:49 AM

DREAMTROVE

Alistair Crowley was actually a pretty thorough researcher, he just *wanted* to put himself at the center. Largely getting their ideas from elsewhere, just like JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis.

Crowley was part of the whole cultural revival movement that was a reaction to cultural imperialism. The early zionists were pretty much doing the same thing. In most rooms I would get shot if I said most of Judaism as it is practiced today, including the current Hebrew language was the creation of cultural reconstructionists in the 19th century, but it's true. Sure, there was a backbone to go on, but it had little of its own culture and none of its spoken language, there were no Rabbinical services, etc.

This isn't that unusual. Most cultures are reconstructed periodically throughout history. We would all freely admit that Democracy did not really directly descend in a continuous line from Pericles, but how many of us stop to think that our western traditions of logic, reason, education and medicine are also Greek creations, brought back to us through cultural revivalists in the Renaissance?

L Ron Hubbard wasn't a revivalist, he was creating a culture out of whole cloth, but like Shaw, he wasn't inventing it all himself. Egotism aside, he had the idea that a religion based on the belief and application of scientific principles would be better for mankind. It started out actually as a bet between Hubbard and Heinlein, but the whole KC sci-fi group was, and still is, basically of this mindset.

The main problem with CoS is that it's really not thinking like Hubbard did, and *isn't* taking outside ideas. It's hooked on the notion that all of the ideas about how to make ourselves more scientific in our own lives was written by Hubbard, and now there can be no new input on the subject. Dogamitism has crept it.

Oh, and no one really believes in the alien stuff, that's not what scientology is about, that's the candy loony coating. Most religions have them, to convince everyone that this is ancient wisdom, and to keep sane people out.

Saying this it occurs to me the trouble you would be in for if you tried to alter the entry on Jesus, which is interesting in itself.

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Saturday, December 4, 2010 6:02 AM

KANEMAN

Oooh crowley..

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Saturday, December 4, 2010 6:03 AM

WHOZIT

I'd like to edit Keith Olbermann's page.

"...then they suspended from his show because he's a loonatic douuchebag who would pull any stunt to help his jack up awfull ratings......and he's stupid."

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Saturday, December 4, 2010 6:51 AM

DREAMTROVE

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I'd like to edit Keith Olbermann's page.

That probably came out a lot gayer than you intended it.

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Saturday, December 4, 2010 6:54 AM

WHOZIT

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I'd like to edit Keith Olbermann's page.

That probably came out a lot gayer than you intended it.

LOL!!

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