Stewart on 9/11 Bill by Niki2

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Way to demagogue an issue, Jon.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:36 PM

PHOENIXROSE

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Way to demagogue an issue, Jon.

You find this response to be irrational?

Just because something can't be explained doesn't mean it becomes yours.

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Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:28 PM

WHOZIT

AHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I wonder which one of Stewarts 15 writers came up with that!!

Hard to believe "SpongeBob Sqaurepants" gets twice the ratings he gets.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:12 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Way to demagogue an issue, Jon.

You find this response to be irrational?

Just because something can't be explained doesn't mean it becomes yours.

Yes. I fail to see why it falls to the Federal Gov't to pay the families of the victims as well as the responders boatloads of tax payer money. Money taken from us to run the government.

That on top of the $$ raised by the Red Cross and other, private donations.... It's not that I begrudge them getting assistance, but from where that money comes.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:53 AM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

The responders are government employees responding to a national crisis. One would imagine the government, or the nation, might owe them something for their trouble.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:34 AM

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Way to demagogue an issue, Jon.

You find this response to be irrational?

Just because something can't be explained doesn't mean it becomes yours.

Yes. I fail to see why it falls to the Federal Gov't to pay the families of the victims as well as the responders boatloads of tax payer money. Money taken from us to run the government.

That on top of the $$ raised by the Red Cross and other, private donations.... It's not that I begrudge them getting assistance, but from where that money comes.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

Of course you'd say that. In Rappyland, it's fine to exploit 9/11 for political gain, but fuck those who actually sacrificed to save lives. All that matters is politics.

You're a fucking scumbag.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:35 AM

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AHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I wonder which one of Stewarts 15 writers came up with that!!

Hard to believe "SpongeBob Sqaurepants" gets twice the ratings he gets.

Who cares who the fuck wrote it. You know he's RIGHT, so all you have to fall back on is your tired little complaints about him using a writing staff.... just like EVERY other talk show host.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:08 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Of course you'd say that. In Rappyland, it's fine to exploit 9/11 for political gain, but fuck those who actually sacrificed to save lives. All that matters is politics.

You're a fucking scumbag.

Not sure what you mean by exploiting 9/11 for political gain, but merely for voicing an opposing view, that makes me a fucking scumbag ?

O.K.

The fact that they're gov't employees, and are owed compensation for their work, is valid.

I stated that I was against the pay out to families of victims, by the gov't, which occurred under Bush. I also didn't say that assistance to either group was unwarranted, just the use of tax payer $$ was questionable. Seems if anyone is due 'some' gov't money, it would be the 1st responders.

Agree ?

Or are you going to simply reply w/ more insults and profanity ?

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:27 AM

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Not sure what you mean by exploiting 9/11 for political gain,

You're either being disingenuous, or you've had a stroke. The GOP has been using 9/11 as political fodder since 9/12.

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but merely for voicing an opposing view, that makes me a fucking scumbag ?

O.K.

No, not just that. You have a long list of comments and stances that earn you that distinction.

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The fact that they're gov't employees, and are owed compensation for their work, is valid.

I stated that I was against the pay out to families of victims, by the gov't, which occurred under Bush. I also didn't say that assistance to either group was unwarranted, just the use of tax payer $$ was questionable. Seems if anyone is due 'some' gov't money, it would be the 1st responders.

And the topic at hand is the first responders....

Don't derail the topic so you can bail from the thread for it going off topic (yes, we have noticed that tactic of yours).

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:49 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Yeah... I, like Rappy here, never could understand why it fell to the U.S. government to go into Afghanistan to get back at the folks who brought down the towers and killed 3000 Americans. Seems it would be the owners of the buildings and companies, and the families of the people killed, who should be responsible for getting their pound of flesh from those they believed responsible.

And why should it fall to "the government" to pay benefits to those soldiers when they return home (well, the ones who DO return home, at least)? That's not in the Constitution. There was no G.I. Bill in the original document, no VA benefits, no soldiers' pensions.

Right? ;)

It *IS* cute to watch Rapster talk about someone "demagoguing" an issue, though. Especially after his months-long harangues regarding an alleged "mosque" (which isn't a mosque at all) "at ground zero" (which isn't really at ground zero at all).

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:51 AM

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You're either being disingenuous, or you've had a stroke. The GOP has been using 9/11 as political fodder since 9/12.

No kidding. As Jon Stewart said, if the GOP doesn't owe them healthcare, they at least owe them royalties!

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:03 AM

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It *IS* cute to watch Rapster talk about someone "demagoguing" an issue, though. Especially after his months-long harangues regarding an alleged "mosque" (which isn't a mosque at all) "at ground zero" (which isn't really at ground zero at all).

His brain only functions in demagogue mode, so of course, he simply assumes that's how everyone else thinks.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:50 AM

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Not sure what you mean by exploiting 9/11 for political gain,

You're either being disingenuous, or you've had a stroke. The GOP has been using 9/11 as political fodder since 9/12

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I'm being neither.

The claim that the GOP has been " using" 9/11?That's the story, from the far Left. It's not a view on which I agree.

More accurately , it's how the LEFT is admitting that they'd have used 9/11, and simply projecting that mindset onto the GOP.

The Left, so often, is guilty of being / doing what they accuse others

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:59 AM

LOL!!!

My God, you are delusional.

Damned near every GOP candidate and politician used 9/11 in speeches to score points at every opportunity for a decade.... and you blame the Left.

I'd be aghast if that was coming from anyone but you. But from you, it's par for the course. Stuck in Rappyland.

Say "Hi" to Mr. Noun+Verb+9/11 Guliani for me.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:00 AM

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More accurately , it's how the LEFT is admitting that they'd have used 9/11, and simply projecting that mindset onto the GOP.

The Left, so often, is guilty of being / doing what they accuse others

Of course, by your logic, you just admitted that that's what you're doing, since you accuse "the Left" of it so often. So you're guilty of "using" 9/11, since you accused "the Left" of using 9/11, and you're simply projecting that mindset onto the Dems.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
LOL!!!

My God, you are delusional.

Damned near every GOP candidate and politician used 9/11 in speeches to score points at every opportunity for a decade.... and you blame the Left.

No they didn't. You're just parroting the propaganda which in fact was devised by hard Left wingers in the Dem party. They saw W land on the USS Lincoln, and freaked. " We can't have this! " Go anti-war ! It's our only chance !

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I'd be aghast if that was coming from anyone but you. But from you, it's par for the course. Stuck in Rappyland.

Say "Hi" to Mr. Noun+Verb+9/11 Guliani for me.

Most human beings aren't as cynical as you.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
LOL!!!

My God, you are delusional.

Damned near every GOP candidate and politician used 9/11 in speeches to score points at every opportunity for a decade.... and you blame the Left.

No they didn't. You're just parroting the propaganda which in fact was devised by hard Left wingers in the Dem party. They saw W land on the USS Lincoln, and freaked. " We can't have this! " Go anti-war ! It's our only chance !

You are so full of shit it's amazing. I'm repeating what I have seen and heard from those people myself.

And here you are trying to create a new reality. Bugger off, and stick to Rappyland. The real world doesn't want you.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:35 AM

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More accurately , it's how the LEFT is admitting that they'd have used 9/11, and simply projecting that mindset onto the GOP.

The Left, so often, is guilty of being / doing what they accuse others

Of course, by your logic, you just admitted that that's what you're doing, since you accuse "the Left" of it so often. So you're guilty of "using" 9/11, since you accused "the Left" of using 9/11, and you're simply projecting that mindset onto the Dems.

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I think projection is all he's even capable of at this point.

All he's got now are these pathetic "Nuh-uh. You did it, not wittle ol' meeee" defenses. It's like debating a toddler.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:40 AM

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All he's got now are these pathetic "Nuh-uh. You did it, not wittle ol' meeee" defenses. It's like debating a toddler.

Now you're just piling on and making fun of Kwickie. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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You are so full of shit it's amazing. I'm repeating what I have seen and heard from those people myself.

And here you are trying to create a new reality. Bugger off, and stick to Rappyland. The real world doesn't want you.

You may not, but I'm not going anywhere.

You live on a flat Earth, where the the sun rises and sets, on a stationary planet.

I prefer to know the truth, and understand the world as it is.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:55 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Fine, put it this way - they put humongous amounts of their tax money into the system which promised to defend them, and failed.

If you hired someone to fireproof your home, and thanks in part to their actions your home burned down - you'd think they'd be friggin liable.

As for Rappy...

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:06 PM

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What's a bald guy doing w/ a fancy hair dryer ?

weird.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:48 PM

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Fine, put it this way - they put humongous amounts of their tax money into the system which promised to defend them, and failed.

If you hired someone to fireproof your home, and thanks in part to their actions your home burned down - you'd think they'd be friggin liable.

As for Rappy...

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

Well played.

Not that the Raptard will get it, but you've done well sir.

Let the fool simmer in his delusions. There's no help for the poor boy.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:22 PM

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Wooo Yeah, I'm really showed up by some lame ass comic strip of a bald guy and a hair dryer.

Please. I'm dealing w/ a bunch of 8 yr olds.

And Story, there's no simmering on my part, as there are no delusions.

There IS no spoon.

Figured you, of all people, would appreciate that.

Oh well.

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:37 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

Sometimes I get the strange sensation that I have read a post. Then, when I read the post again, all of its content is changed.

Does anyone else ever feel that way?

--Anthony

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Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:06 PM

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Hello,

Sometimes I get the strange sensation that I have read a post. Then, when I read the post again, all of its content is changed.

Does anyone else ever feel that way?

--Anthony

Could be that your mind is going.

Could be that, because there is no 'preview' option on these boards, folks hit 'post' before they've proof read their posts...

Could be , again w/ the no preview option, some folks revise their comments, after having thought of other ways to express their views.....

Could be a lot of things.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 5:17 AM

ANTHONYT

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Sometimes I get the strange sensation that I have read a post. Then, when I read the post again, all of its content is changed.

Does anyone else ever feel that way?

--Anthony

Could be that you're mind is going.

Could be that, because there is no 'preview' option on these boards, folks hit 'post' before they've proof read their posts...

Could be , again w/ the no preview option, some folks revise their comments, after having thought of other ways to express their views.....

Could be a lot of things.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

Hello,

Nothing sinister to it, then. Thanks for clarifying.

--Anthony

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Friday, December 17, 2010 6:05 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Wooo Yeah, I'm really showed up by some lame ass comic strip of a bald guy and a hair dryer.

Thank you for proving my point.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 7:34 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I believe the bill under discussion was for the healthcare of the 9/11 RESPONDERS. It doesn’t have to do with their families, as far as I know, except insofar as maybe they wouldn’t lose their homes paying medical bills. If you want to discuss reparations to the families, that’s another topic.

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Way to demagogue an issue, Jon.

is a reflexive response, nothing more.

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It's not that I begrudge them getting assistance, but from where that money comes.

You begrudge where the money is coming from; that says clearly that you don’t think it should come from the government (which runs on our tax dollars, yes?) You’re talking yourself in circles.

The simple matter is that virtually any time anyone or anything gets money from the government, warranted or not, Raptor lands on the “it’s MY MONEY!” side, irrelevant of whether the government owes the debt, it falls within the government’s purview to pay the money, or anything else. Just remember that, and you won’t have to try and discuss anything with him.

As to using 9/11 for political gain, it’s not a point we have to make; Jon utilized footage which makes the point for us. I’m sure everyone remembers Guilliano, “A noun, a verb and 9/11”. To try to turn it around and claim it’s the left shows lack of even any effort to be sensible; just another reflexive statement. As is most of this post.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Friday, December 17, 2010 8:43 AM

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Could be that you're mind is going.

Classic!

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Friday, December 17, 2010 8:54 AM

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The simple matter is that virtually any time anyone or anything gets money from the government, warranted or not, Raptor lands on the “it’s MY MONEY!” side, irrelevant of whether the government owes the debt, it falls within the government’s purview to pay the money, or anything else. Just remember that, and you won’t have to try and discuss anything with him.

Well, it's not really quite that simple. Remember, for instance, that Rappy was an outspoken supporter of the invasion and occupation of Iraq, despite the fact that that war was a TREMENDOUS expenditure of "our" money. Of course, Rappy never had any intention of taking any responsibility for PAYING for his pet war, but that's just because he's a typical Republican.

Also, if you were AGAINST the illegal and immoral invasion and occupation of Iraq, Rappy would be among the very first to claim that you were un-American and unpatriotic, and that you hated our troops. Never mind the fact that you might be arguing that the country simply couldn't afford such a massive payout in OUR money - that was completely irrelevant to him.

Remember, spending is ONLY bad when Democrats do it. If Republicans are behind it, then (to quote Rappy's messiah Dick Cheney) "deficits don't matter".

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Friday, December 17, 2010 11:06 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Well, yeah, that's a given. If it's his tax money going to pay for a war, OR to give somebody else a tax cut, those are different matters, naturally. I just thought that was taken for granted.

Wars THEMSELVES, that is; not for soldiers who are injured in the wars or people like the 9/11 responders...they need to stand on their own two feet, right? If they have them...but of course, if they DON'T have two feet (or a lung) left afterward, anything they get from the government is "sucking the government's tit". You betcha!

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Friday, December 17, 2010 12:23 PM

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Wars THEMSELVES, that is; not for soldiers who are injured in the wars or people like the 9/11 responders...they need to stand on their own two feet, right?

Bingo. That's RappyWorld™ in a nutshell (or a nutbag...)

Also, don't forget - those soldiers who come home? They VOLUNTEERED to go do this duty, so they are owed NOTHING by the taxpayers, right? And since they don't pay into the system and don't pay taxes, we really shouldn't feel the least bit bad about pissing on them while they lie in the gutter and die. It's the American Way™, after all! (At least that's Rappy's vision for America)

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Friday, December 17, 2010 12:30 PM

So, after trying to change the focus of the discussion away from the first responders, attacking Stewart for being 100% right and a far better person than he, then denying established history, it seems Rappy got bored with the thread.

At least he did admit that the first responders should be covered. he just couldn't bring himself to actually denounce the GOP scumbags preventing it.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 12:32 PM

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Remember, spending is ONLY bad when Democrats do it. If Republicans are behind it, then (to quote Rappy's messiah Dick Cheney) "deficits don't matter".

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And he wonders why he's considered a lapdog. It's hilarious.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 1:21 PM

FREMDFIRMA

What I don't understand is why such folk support all these fucking taxes, and then when people want the very services they paid those taxes FOR, those self-same folk have a goddamn conniption fit ?!

I swear, that's as bad as corporations who offer "Unlimited" service and then throw a hissy when you actually USE those services...

That's idiotic, if I pay for something, then I WILL HAVE IT, even if I have to take it by force or chicanery - the only place I really *must* put up with shovelling money down a rathole with no expectation of ANYTHING but another bill is fucking car insurance, and that only cause I got Governments gun to my head about it, and even so I'll do every goddamn thing possible to make it a hassle for them.
(Including paying them once in foreign currency at a horrible exchange rate)

Either pay and get the service, don't pay and don't get the service - either of those positions I can understand, but to *actively advocate* shovelling money into something with no expectation of a return on it, that's insane...

And they wonder why I call em collaborators.

-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 2:23 PM

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Wooo Yeah, I'm really showed up by some lame ass comic strip of a bald guy and a hair dryer.

Thank you for proving my point.

Point that you're a bigger geek than I ?

I got no problem w/ that.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 2:32 PM

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So, after trying to change the focus of the discussion away from the first responders, attacking Stewart for being 100% right and a far better person than he, then denying established history, it seems Rappy got bored with the thread.

Funny, but I did none of that. I actually kinda came around to the point of 1st responders getting Gov't money, as they work for the Gov't, but also attached it to another issue. I never said they weren't due the $$, but merely questioned that it was the responsibility of the Gov't to pay that money. ( And it's funny to see you actually acknowledge that, in your next sentence ) I never 'attacked' JS, and certainly the idea that he's " 100% right and far better " than anyone is in your head. I didn't deny any " established history " , what so ever. So that is, again, solely in your head. But yes, I did get bored / this thread. I'll give you that one.

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At least he did admit that the first responders should be covered. he just couldn't bring himself to actually denounce the GOP scumbags preventing it.

Why should I ? The way Congress works, there could be any number of legitimate reasons to block that, or any other item. If there are ridiculous ad ons or riders to that bill, like how so many Dems love to do, then it makes perfect sense to not vote for it, until such items are removed.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 3:28 PM

I expected nothing more from you, son. And you didn't dissappoint.

We all know that you deny everything, no matter the evidence on hand, including your own words. And we don't care.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 3:42 PM

Niki, remember just this summer past, when Rappy was railing about how evil Obama was for wanting to use the federal government and OUR taxpayer money to go and clean up a big mess in the Gulf of Mexico that was caused by a free-market capitalist company?

Neither do I.

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Friday, December 17, 2010 6:15 PM

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I expected nothing more from you, son. And you didn't dissappoint.

We all know that you deny everything, no matter the evidence on hand, including your own words. And we don't care.

You have a serious reading comprehension issue. All you do is see my name, and start yapping away.

Unbelievable

I can't contend w/ your irrational fixations and petty hang ups.

No one can.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:01 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Stewart is as close to pissed as I've seen him allow himself to be on his show about this one, it seems to have really hit home for him! He kept it up the next night...this is the only clip I could find on YouTube, so excuse the source. I had to go to his website to see it, as we don't get him on Friday here and I watch the rerun of the previous night's show, which is broadcast earlier. I'm glad they showed it so I could go back and watch, but here's a clip:

Interesting he got head up so much about this, as he usually doesn't allow himself to get REALLY serious, but sticks to his "court jester" personna on his show.

It IS a serious thing, and even tho' they got their tax gimme, they're still blocking it!

I'm sad this got off onto a Raptor back-and-forth with the usual suspects, because it's a very serious thing, to me. And, obviously, to Jon.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:16 AM

KANEMAN

Niki, I don't give you much props, however....I like that vid and JS is right....now go finger your old ass...ya got me.........RON PAUL

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:19 AM

KANEMAN

Niki.....

"I'm sad this got off onto a Raptor back-and-forth with the usual suspects, because it's a very serious thing, to me. And, obviously, to Jon."

That is called discourse....deal with it u bi-sexual old hag

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 10:22 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Here's the full clip (he devoted two sections of it). It's the fourt segments (pardon the ads):

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-december-16-2010/9-11-first-resp
onders-react-to-the-senate-filibuster

It's a round table with four of the actual fourth responders and what they have to say. All four of them have serious ailments from 9/11, one is dying of cancer. I think it's worthwhile to hear what they have to say, and once again, it shows how seriously Jon feels about it.

The guy who's dying of cancer, said "For us to be here, nine year later, fighting for our health...."

McConnel is shown breaking down in tears about the death of a colleague, but of course, no tears for the guys who willingly went out and essentially gave their health, and in some cases, their lives, for us.

It's really meaningful for me, and might explain some of where they got their "money" to any who begrudges them help. NYPD put one guy out at 3/4ths pay, even tho' he was still working, because "he's costing us too much"...with a couple of hundred dollar's worth of co-pays monthly.

Sick = workman's comp, so insurance is cut and of course WC fights them like crazy before paying anything out. "Yeah, you got cancer, but how do you know it's from 9/11?"...familiar?

It's pretty impressive to hear their stories from their own mouths. Pisses me off no end!!!

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:45 PM