Did any of you catch the obama rally? by kaneman

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Did any of you catch the obama rally?

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:47 PM

Shame on Obama trying to hold a rally at a wake....Or funeral memorial service....Shame shame shame....the man can sink no lower

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:12 PM

WHOZIT

No, I watched a rerun of "BONES" on TNT.

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:40 PM

STORYMARK

It's okay. Pretty much everyone but the insane righties like you thought he did just fine.

Keep hatin'. No one cares.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:49 PM

WHOZIT

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Originally posted by Storymark:
It's okay. Pretty much everyone but the insane righties like you thought he did just fine.

Keep hatin'. No one cares.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

Maybe he did do just fine, I don't know.....or care

And you keep hatin' too, maybe if you're lucky someone will shot a Palin.

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 2:17 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Is anybody else vomiting right now?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=47151&m=#

Half of my family are insane Demorats.

The other half are insane Republicons.

Join the Tea Party if you want to live

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 2:52 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

"Half of my family are insane Demorats.

The other half are insane Republicons."

Hello,

The moral of the story appears to be this: Everyone in Piratenews' family is insane.

EVERY LAST ONE.

It took courage to admit this, sir. I commend you.

--Anthony

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:09 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by whozit:

And you keep hatin' too, maybe if you're lucky someone will shot a Palin.

Your pathetic grammar aside, I wish her no harm. I still hope she runs for President.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:10 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
"Half of my family are insane Demorats.

The other half are insane Republicons."

Hello,

The moral of the story appears to be this: Everyone in Piratenews' family is insane.

EVERY LAST ONE.

It took courage to admit this, sir. I commend you.

--Anthony

Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.

LOL. Quite true.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:29 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Didn't see it, but heard some clips.

The applause was a bit much, and totally out of place.

This is par for the course, for Lefties.

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' Never let a good crisis go to waste '

Folks, I'm never going to forget that line, and neither should you. It's the foundation of how this White House operates. They said as much themselves. They said EXACTLY that.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:35 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I believe 'not wasting a crisis' is a political thing, not specific to any administration.

--Anthony

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:42 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I believe 'not wasting a crisis' is a political thing, not specific to any administration.

--Anthony.

Perhaps, but I don't know of any other which has so bluntly stated as such, and put those priorities first and foremost, at the top of their " to do " list.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:10 PM

CANTTAKESKY

I didn't see it either, but this is a really good speech.

http://obama-mamas.com/blog/?p=2276

Can't Take (my gorram) Sky
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Everything I say is just my opinion, not fact.

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Friday, January 14, 2011 2:31 AM

JONGSSTRAW

When Conservative commentators like Dr. Charles Krauthammer, Brit Hume, Pat Buchanan and others say that Obama gave a magnificent speech, then it's time for some on the Right like Limbaugh and Ingraham to take a step back for a moment and reflect a bit more deeply on what Obama did at the service.

Like anything in life, sometimes things don't always go as planned. Obama planned for a speech to honor the fallen and praise the heroes there. What he and the organizers of the event didn't know, couldn't know, is perhaps that the people of Tucson needed something more than a somber, bellicose, boring, typical eulology type event. To me it looked and sounded like they were looking for something positive out of the event; something motivating and uplifting to help them deal with the tragedy and help get on with their lives. They wanted to hoot and cheer as a way of releasing anger and frustration. They set the tone, not Obama. A quarter way through his speech he recognized this, and as Krauthammer rightly noted afterwards, he brilliantly went with the flow and delivered one of the most moving and compelling speeches ever. I got to tell you, this die hard Conservative did all in my power to control my tears and not succomb to the powerful emotional imagery that Obama presented, but I could not. I wept like a baby many times, and that is something I never do. Will any of this last, and will this speech go down as something historic in the future? Who knows. But I'll never forget it.

Pat Buchanan wrote a piece today titled "Is Obama Leaving the Left Behind?" It discusses why he (and I) feel that Obama made a great speech:

"The day that President Obama departed for Arizona to address the nation on the Tucson massacre, Washington was abuzz.

Would he take the line of the hard left and call out the right for having created what columnist Paul Krugman called the "Climate of Hate" in which a mentally deranged Jared Lee Loughner had acted?

Would he lay moral responsibility for the slaughter at the feet of Fox News and Sarah Palin, as the wilder voices of the left have been doing nonstop since Saturday's shocking news?

Obama did the opposite, admonishing his allies as well as critics, "at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do, it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds."

Again and again, he returned to the theme. "Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermath.

"For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know ... what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man's mind. ... But what we cannot do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on each other. ...

"If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate ... let's make sure ... it's not on the usual plane of politics and point-scoring and pettiness." No "lack of civility ... caused this tragedy."

Obama thus cut the ground out from under those exploiting the massacre and attempted murder of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords to smear and exact retribution for the crushing repudiation they suffered on Nov. 2.

In one of the finer speeches of his career, Obama realized that, at this hour and in this tragedy, his country yearned to come together on the higher ground of grief for the fallen, celebration of those who behaved bravely and prayerful hope for the wounded.

By rising above "politics and point-scoring and partisanship" in Tucson, the president has recaptured some of the luster he had lost since that January two years ago."

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Friday, January 14, 2011 12:55 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Folks, I'm never going to forget that line, and neither should you. It's the foundation of how this White House operates. They said as much themselves. They said EXACTLY that.

It's how the last one operated too. But you don't have the integrity to acknowledge it.

Instead, like always, you strap your blinders on real tight, and dive into your Obama derangement full force.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 14, 2011 1:04 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Kan... er... Story.

Shut up.

Your bitter "vitrol" is so... last week.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

P.S I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.

P.S. I'm all out of fuken bubblegum.

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Friday, January 14, 2011 3:19 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I see the Story/Kane analogies persist despite the evidence at hand. I shall bring a reminder.

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"I'll rub out a couple so when I rape you and your imaginary roommates ... I last long enough for you to shit the bed..."

In any event, it is quite correct and worth repeating that all administrations twist events to their advantage.

I do not see the current administration as particular in this regard. I would agree with Story that it would require a psychological blindness not to see where this has been done in the past with equal or greater frequency and effect.

--Anthony

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Friday, January 14, 2011 5:08 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Folks, I'm never going to forget that line, and neither should you. It's the foundation of how this White House operates. They said as much themselves. They said EXACTLY that.

It's how the last one operated too. But you don't have the integrity to acknowledge it.

.

I find it noteworthy that you admonish Bush for NOT having said or acted in like manner, yet you all but ignore that Rahm Dead Fish said it, and this White House lives by that very creed.

Instead, like always, you strap your blinders on real tight, and dive into your BUSH derangement full force (fixed that for ya )

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:50 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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Pretty much everyone but the insane righties like you thought he did just fine.

You forgot “the sane right which makes a profit off of NEVER being positive about Obama or Dems”. Like Fox

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The moral of the story appears to be this: Everyone in Piratenews' family is insane.

Most excellent; thank you Anthony.

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It's the foundation of how this White House operates.

You’ve got to be kidding! Look how incredibly the crisis of 9/11 benefited the Bush administration (as I see has been mentioned by others)! They did the best job of benefiting from a crisis of any administration in my lifetime!

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They said EXACTLY that

Wow...I didn’t know it was the entire administration who said that; I must have missed that part...here I thought Emanuel was the only one...and isn’t he gone now?

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I don't know of any other which has so bluntly stated as such

So you’re saying “they” were just more honest than Bush...well, I’ll give you that.

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then it's time for some on the Right like Limbaugh and Ingraham to take a step back for a moment and reflect a bit more deeply on what Obama did at the service.

‘Nother good one; like that’s ever going to happen! Talk about not letting crises go to waste, THEIR job is not to let any positives get in the way of making their play on fear and anger go to waste!

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Obama thus cut the ground out from under those exploiting the massacre and attempted murder of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords to smear and exact retribution for the crushing repudiation they suffered on Nov. 2.

Damn again; here I thought he was admonishing BOTH sides to knock it off, that the “smearing” over the past two years had been going on rampantly from the right, and that one election was “suffering” caused by a “crushing repudiation”. I continue to maintain that the truth of the matter is that the majority who gave control to the House to Republicans voted out of PERSONAL fear over the economy and their own lives. It was a visceral reaction in the hopes the “other side” would fix things faster and a disappointment that Obama and the dems didn’t magically turn everything around. Wait and see.

It’s a pendulum, period. It’s seen Congressional approval ratings go up and down, approval ratings for whichever side is in power go up and down, and dramatic shifts either way. Sure, November was a pretty good thumping for an OFF-YEAR ELECTION, in which, despite a pretty hefty increase in interest this time, far fewer people vote than in an election year, and it spoke. So it doesn’t reflect the entire electorate, and some hard-core Republicans were stuck voting for righties who won the primaries despite being bad candidates. If it had been truly a “crushing repudiation”, Republicans would have taken the Senate, Nevada would have dumped Harry Reid, etc.

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all but ignore that Rahm Dead Fish said it, and this White House lives by that very creed

Ahhh, I love it, blinders on good and tight. In exactly what ways has this “White House” benefited from crises, please? And when you cite specifics, do try to bear in mind Homeland Security, Patriot Act, “Preventative” War, illegal wiretapping, waterboarding, and all the rest of the power the previous administration gained by 9/11.

Best use of a crisis ever. See if the gains of each match up.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 3:00 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Great speech.

'But what we can’t do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.'

Something for fff.net posters

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 3:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I believe 'not wasting a crisis' is a political thing, not specific to any administration.

--Anthony.

Perhaps, but I don't know of any other which has so bluntly stated as such, and put those priorities first and foremost, at the top of their " to do " list.

In the wake of September 11, 2001, George W. Bush said, "I've built up political capital, and I intend to use it."

Seems pretty crass.

This Space For Rent!

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Monday, January 17, 2011 10:06 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

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Something for fff.net posters

Hey, you're allowed to dream!

Did he really say that Mike? How cool...equates to just about the same thing, doesn't it? We'll have to remember that every time Raptor pulls out his" thing. That's an even MORE specific statement, and made by the Prez himself, no less!

Yeah, I found it, he said even more than that:

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"One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief. My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. If I have a chance to invade---if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency."

http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp06202005.html

HAH! Talk about not letting a good crisis go to waste, and SAYING you intend to use it to advantage to garner as much power as possible! I love it; thanks Mike, I'm saving that one!

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Monday, January 17, 2011 1:51 PM

KWICKO

Never fear, Niki - Rappy will be along any minute now to tell us all that THAT was different! :)

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