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A 7-year-old child allegedly shot a Nerf-style toy gun in his Hammonton, N.J., school Jan. 18. No one was hurt, but the pint-size softshooter now faces misdemeanor criminal charges.

Hammonton Police began an investigation into the “suspicious activity” at the Hammonton Early Childhood Education Center Jan. 18 after school officials alerted them to the incident.

The "gun" the child brought to school was a $5 toy gun, similar to a Nerf gun, that shoots soft ping pong type balls, according to the school's superintendent.

Officials also say that there was no evidence of anyone being threatened. The child's mother told school officials that she didn't know her son brought the toy to school.


"I'd rather it be dealt with more severely than not," said Gherard. "I would rather them go a little bit too far for the safety of all the children then to say 'okay, it was probably nothing.'"
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Another victim of the Zero Tolerance Policy.

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I would have told her to just go put it in her locker and not say a word.

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Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
I suppose I may be threadjacking, but I am more interested in Zero Tolerance policy than guns.

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What was I supposed to say "just keep it hidden until school is over?"

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As long as you and your kind keep up with "zero tolerance", "gun control" etc...

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Ah, Wulf, you poor one-dimensional thinker. Me and my kind? When did I ever say I was in favor of "zero tolerance" (which I happen to think is totally absurd, assinine and just plain wrong)?

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There's a moral dilemma.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
"Zero-Tolerance" policies come out of the same kind of thinking as "Mandatory Minimums" and "Sentencing Guidelines" - they allow not room for individual judgment or discretion.

"You and your kind", Wulf? Really? So it would be a valid statement for me to say that Gabby Giffords was shot, and 6 people were killed, because of "you and your kind", eh?

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You know what they call Zero-Tolerance when you apply that shit to adults ?
Airport Security.

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Oh bullshit - what it is, Wulfenwhiner, is that at the extremes of the spectrum are pyschotic fucks like you on both ends, chug-a-luggin some would be tyrants koolaid and regurgitating it on command upon everyone else, and factually, I tire of seeing threads covered in slime every time you open your fekkin piehole.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
"Zero-Tolerance" policies come out of the same kind of thinking as "Mandatory Minimums" and "Sentencing Guidelines" - they allow not room for individual judgment or discretion.

"You and your kind", Wulf? Really? So it would be a valid statement for me to say that Gabby Giffords was shot, and 6 people were killed, because of "you and your kind", eh?

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Yes. It would be valid if his kind was a whacked-out, batshit-crazy gun nut.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Zero Tolerance policies are usually enacted by progressives. (But to be fair, its also enacted by schools/businesses looking not to get sued)

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Zero Tolerance policies are usually enacted by progressives. (But to be fair, its also enacted by schools/businesses looking not to get sued)

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Which "progressives" do you blame for things like "three strikes and you're out" mandatory sentencing regulations?


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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
I have no interest in guns. As a general rule, whenever someone discusses guns, they are really discussing either their wiener or wiener anxiety. Or biceps. Those are also proxies for wieners.

I do, however, like discussing zero tolerance. Zero tolerance policies, and other bright line rules, aren't inherently wicked and stupid.

Giving an administrator the discretion to determine an appropriate response for a rule infraction inevitably leads to disparate punishment. Sometimes this is bothersome. For example, there are a number of people on this board that would roar if X kids were routinely set home for a rule violation, while Y kids handled more delicately. Let X and Y stand for "black/white," "christian/jew" etc...

Accordingly, to avoid inequitable results, sometimes inflexible rules are advanced that produce the occasional ridiculous result.

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Zero Tolerance policies are usually enacted by progressives. (But to be fair, its also enacted by schools/businesses looking not to get sued)

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California passed its own in 1994, when that state voters passed Proposition 184 by an overwhelming majority. 72% in favor and 28% against. The initiative proposed to the voters had the title of Three Strikes and You're Out, referring to de facto life imprisonment after being convicted of three felonies.[2]


well, you asked......California. 'nuff said.

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I have no interest in guns. As a general rule, whenever someone discusses guns, they are really discussing either their wiener or wiener anxiety.

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California passed its own in 1994, when that state voters passed Proposition 184 by an overwhelming majority. 72% in favor and 28% against. The initiative proposed to the voters had the title of Three Strikes and You're Out, referring to de facto life imprisonment after being convicted of three felonies.[2]


well, you asked......California. 'nuff said.

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The following states have enacted three strike laws:

In 1974: Texas
In 1994: Colorado, Indiana, Kansas, Nevada, North Dakota
In 1995: Arkansas, Georgia, Maryland, Montana, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Utah, Wisconsin
In 1996: Florida, Tennessee, Virginia


Since you want to cherry-pick. ;) 'nuff said.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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