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Splatter Platter

POSTED BY: DREAMTROVE
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Monday, March 14, 2011 6:54 PM

DREAMTROVE


Just to lighten it up. I've been going through this, a musical subgenre of which I'm quite fond, and I figure that other people here are twisted enough to possibly share this affliction, so any fans out there care to post your favorite splatter platter piece.

Here's one I'm rather fond of.



That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Monday, March 14, 2011 7:21 PM

HKCAVALIER




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Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:41 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)









"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:55 AM

DREAMTROVE




http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/12/arts/music/jean-dinning-songwriter-o
f-pop-tragedy-teen-angel-dies-at-86.html


Jean Dinning R.I.P.





That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:39 AM

DREAMTROVE




The video is a little disappointing after years of knowing the song, but it was 1979, not a lot of videos about, so, it exists.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:02 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...




Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:03 AM

DREAMTROVE


I actually considered a pre-emptive injunction against Exhumed. Now I'm regretting not stating it earlier. My assumption that people would have taste was misplaced, but honestly, I expected it form Kaneman. Anyway, they're trying too hard, and yet, when it comes to music, not hard enough.

i actually have passed up posting a lot of things like Kamelot which fits quite well into the genre.



That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:03 PM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


You post Dixie Chicks and then you speak of taste?? Taste Nazi, New World Taste, Blue Sun Taste, The Powers That Taste...

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:13 PM

BYTEMITE


To be fair, the Dixie Chicks did protest the war against terror and took flak for it, so it might not be fair to compare them to representatives of the Blue Sun Company.

Other than that, I don't know much about them or any other music groups. It's not really something I pay much attention to.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:16 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)










"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Here's some from an entire splatter album - Nick Cave's "Murder Ballads", a collection of songs, every single one of which is about murder. It is not an album for the faint of heart...















That's just a few...

Not sure if "The Mercy Seat" really fits the format, but Johnny Cash sure did a hell of a job with it.


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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


One more from The Man in Black:






"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:39 PM

DREAMTROVE


A Firefly Fan with a problem with Country Music?

Sorry, I really initially had intended a ban on exhumed... Seriously, it defames the genre ;)

Not sure if this counts.




My qualification is that it has to at least be *trying* to be art. My mom's classification is "It has to really be a love song" (Does this leave out "I want my baby back"?)



But before we go through "He's going to kill that girl" and stuff like that, which, let's face it, is common as hen's teeth...

Another subgenre which I'll grant is splatter platter but really drags is true story "tears from heaven" style stuff. I'd rather listing to "I want my baby back" than that, because part of the goal of music is entertainment.

Seriously, though, the Dixie Chicks song is pretty sweet. So is this, Loreena McKennit:



This actually makes me wonder if symphonic is overly heavy with the stuff. I'm tempted to post "My Immortal" I'm not sure if the subject predeceases the song counts, but, still, a great song...




Benchmark:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_tragedy_song

That's an incomplete list, but you know all of these songs.

More comprehensive list, I don't know all these songs

http://www.nyx.net/~anon52ea/DeadTeenSongs.html


ETA: Pizmo, Seriously, Exhumed is NOT splatter platter. It fails every test. It's not a love song about a teen who dies in the song, and it's not musical or entertaining ;) I suspect you googled the term, and came up with their album. Should'a checked wikipedia first. Splatter Platter is "Tell Laura I Love Her" and stuff like that.


Mike, I'm impressed. You came up with 9 off the top of your head, your mp3 playlist, or did you pull them off a webpage? It was an impressive performance, esp. the last few. Bonus points for PJ Harvey and Kylie Minogue.

I think the Johnny Cash counts, though I passed on Folsom Prison earlier on the love song count.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 3:47 PM

BYTEMITE


I don't mind country, I just don't really have an opinion on bands or songs.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 3:48 PM

HKCAVALIER




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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Those are just a few out of my playlist. I actually have a compilation playlist that I call "Bonnie and Clyde" (which, of course, has the song Bonnie & Clyde in it...) They're mostly boy-meets-girl, girl-gets-boy-to-break-the-law, boy-goes-to-jail-or-dies, girl-gets-all-his-stuff kinds of songs.

Richard Thompson has a few - Beeswing, Shane & Dixie among them, but is best known for the '52 Vincent Black Lightning.

Robert Earl Keen has some, as does Joe Ely.

Warren Zevon offers us his incomparably creepy "Excitable Boy", in which the titular protagonist not only kills his one true love, but then, when he gets out of the mental hospital, digs up her grave and makes a cage with her bones. Lovely.

I almost forgot a wonderful one from The BoDeans: "Runaway". Can't find a decent video of it, though.

Oh, and "Love Vigilantes" from New Order.



And this. Possibly. The. Best. One. Ever.




And yes, "Travelin' Soldier" ranks pretty high on my list, too. Like the band or hate 'em, it's a hell of a well-crafted song.


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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:18 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Peter Murphy - "I'll Fall With Your Knife"



This one is a double bonus, since it follows the chord progression of Pachelbel's "Canon". I did that one just for HappyTrader. :)

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:34 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


A pair from The Toadies:







They're into a rather twisted kind of "love", it seems. All stalkerish and such...

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 4:49 PM

KIRKULES



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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:23 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

And yes, "Travelin' Soldier" ranks pretty high on my list, too. Like the band or hate 'em, it's a hell of a well-crafted song.


Thank you.

How did we get this far without someone posting this?



ETA: Yeah, I caught the axis of awesome there.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:38 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Y'know, I thought about posting up "Just Like Heaven", but couldn't really decide if it qualified as a splatter platter. I've got three or four versions of it by bands other than The Cure.


Here's some self-splatter of a sort...



And another


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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:15 PM

DREAMTROVE


Just Like Heaven is pretty classic. It fits the model, Love song, one half of the couple is the singer, the other half dies by the end of the song, she goes splat. And all is done in an artistic and entertaining manner.

Suicides are in-genre if they fit the Romeo and Juliet model, or are sort of Genre-appropriate


But i think suicide songs in general perhaps not.

I guess "I love him, boo hoo, I'll kill myself" is a twist, but then you have a strange narrative.

I don't think Sirenia Sail Away fits here, another one I passed on was Nightwish, over the hills and far away


though it fits, sort of, he only goes to jail. Still, a similar theme to one you posted earlier.

Not my favorites, but classics of the genre




I think they put the guideposts, along with the others. Boy meets girl, they fall in love, one dies, the other is still in love... as a musical art form. I think any variation therein is still within the genre, such as "boy kills girl" or "one or both commit suicide" including the strange narrative "I died, she lives on" sort of thing.

Patches is really disturbing because of how unsympathetically all his fault it is, but it's musical, and maybe more believable than some of the others. If the singer doesn't put enough passion into it, it's bound to get mocked.

I particularly like how in "I want my baby back" the cause of the crash that kills his girl is that he's just run over the leader of the pack. That's pretty classic. Splatter platter self reference.

The overly emotional singer can also head either off into total camp, or worse, seriousness. There are a fair number of songs out there of the "Fire and Rain" variety that are true stories of the singer's actual experience, and they tend to be morose, hard to enjoy, and, being true, don't have the opportunity for wonderful irony.

It's occurred to me before that part of the point of original splatter platter was the same basic idea as Darwin Awards. Highway casualty rates were real high in the 50s, and a lot of these were pretty obvious don'ts...

I can see the 21st c. possibilities...

I got her last text
On my blackberry
She said lets have sex
As soon as we marry

A screeching stretch hummer
crushed her smartcar
Oh well, what a bummer
I guess it's back to the bar...



That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, March 16, 2011 6:54 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Going back to the 60's again, there's this:



Then from the 70's:



"Keep the Shiny side up"

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