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Grading the Great deceiver

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:36 AM

KANEMAN


After over two years in office I've gotta give Barry a D+. This guy ran on ending war, he has failed miserably. In fact, taking Libya into account, miserably may be too weak a word. For a guy with straightening out the economy and curtailing unemployment as cornerstones of his platform...he's also failed. The economy and dollar are weaker than ever and I don't have to comment on unemployment....and would anyone be suprised if gas reaches an all-time high under Barry?....His attempt to get political prisoners from Cuba was a failure, as well as his healthcare bill....fail.

Geez, maybe I should rethink this grade and just give him an F. 2012 can't come fast enough, so he and his gorilla wife and children can return to Chicago, now that his pal is mayor there....better yet....The libyans are looking for a new Muslim leader, I say, give em ours! This would solve two problems at once......Well, it's true.....

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Actually, he's doing quite well. Passed O-Care, and is leading the nation down the road to European style socialism, and Greek style debt.

He went 0-4 in his NCAA brackets for the Final Four, but hey... give the brotha a break, right? He had that golf game to polish up, before his great S.American campaign trip.

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:04 AM

KANEMAN


Yeah, I can see where you are coming from, but being conservo-centric I have to stick with the F.

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:01 AM

DREAMTROVE


He's a total disaster. His own agenda has been overrun with that of his friends, and that is a disaster. I actually think he's headed for a position as one of the great disasters of human history, I suspect his was will lead to world chaos, and the end of his empire. Such leaders aren't always the most flawed individuals, look at Gorby, but they will always be remembered for what fell on their watch.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:15 AM

HARDWARE


Compare the speech 0bama gave denouncing the Iraq war and Ron Paul's speech on the same topic. Both opposed, but 0bama's speech was full of glitter and unicorn farts. Paul cited exact reasons, founded in the laws of the United States why attacking Iraq was not only wrong, but a bad precedent.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ron_Paul%27s_Iraq_Speech

The writing was on the wall even as far back as 2002.

I can't give 0bama's presidency a grade yet. He hasn't finished his term. But it looks like he'll score lower than Carter. I'd give him an F- on any progress report I had to sign. With a note that he does not turn in completed assignments and wastes time in class.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:44 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Dictator Hussein Obama Soetoro Dark Knight of the British Empire is a 100% success...for his kosher New World Odor masters.

Trillionaires and billionaires couldn't be happier, unless they live in the Mid East.

Open the US border to an invading army of 100-million illegal aliens...CHECK!

Merge USA with Mexico and the Canadian British Empire...CHECK!

Invade 5 nations on the Pentagon's 7-nation list and replace Islamic No-Interest banks with jewish private "govt" banks...CHECK!

Increase heroin production 10,000% in Afghanistan...CHECK!

Genocide as many US troops as possible and steal their pensions...CHECK!

Genocide over 50% of black babies and bill the taxslaves...CHECK!

Nuke the Jap economy with a Tsunami Bomb to further bankrupt the US economy and empower the NWO global dictatorship of the jews...CHECK!

Set legal precedent that illegal aliens can be president without any background check...CHECK!

Prove that Amerikans are the stoopidest suckers on the planet...CHECK!

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:28 AM

JONGSSTRAW


AND YET....with all the endless carping, berating, blaming and bashing of Obama on every single national and world event, there still isn't ANY Republican with a prayer of beating him next year. More than that, the Republicans have gone full-tilt batshit crazy since November's election, and they have failed utterly to capture the imagination of Americans. The so-called "front-runners" are a motley collection of has-been losers, clueless ideologues, and Fox News whores. Show me the leadership!








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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:39 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
AND YET....with all the endless carping, berating, blaming and bashing of Obama on every single national and world event, there still isn't ANY Republican with a prayer of beating him next year. More than that, the Republicans have gone full-tilt batshit crazy since November's election, and they have failed utterly to capture the imagination of Americans. The so-called "front-runners" are a motley collection of has-been losers, clueless ideologues, and Fox News whores. Show me the leadership!


You need to get out more. Anyone can beat Obama in 2012...even Christine Odonell....anyone!









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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:56 AM

JONGSSTRAW


I get out plenty friend. If you truly believe that any Republican can beat Obama, then my hat's off to your optimism.








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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:07 AM

HARDWARE


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
AND YET....with all the endless carping, berating, blaming and bashing of Obama on every single national and world event, there still isn't ANY Republican with a prayer of beating him next year. More than that, the Republicans have gone full-tilt batshit crazy since November's election, and they have failed utterly to capture the imagination of Americans. The so-called "front-runners" are a motley collection of has-been losers, clueless ideologues, and Fox News whores. Show me the leadership!


On the other hand, maybe this is the best chance a 3rd party has to finally win one.

But, are you defending 0bama by attacking criticism of him? Or are you just attacking the other side? I'm confused if you are running a false flag operation or if you are one of the drunk the cool-aid faithful.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:51 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Hardware:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
AND YET....with all the endless carping, berating, blaming and bashing of Obama on every single national and world event, there still isn't ANY Republican with a prayer of beating him next year. More than that, the Republicans have gone full-tilt batshit crazy since November's election, and they have failed utterly to capture the imagination of Americans. The so-called "front-runners" are a motley collection of has-been losers, clueless ideologues, and Fox News whores. Show me the leadership!


On the other hand, maybe this is the best chance a 3rd party has to finally win one.

But, are you defending 0bama by attacking criticism of him? Or are you just attacking the other side? I'm confused if you are running a false flag operation or if you are one of the drunk the cool-aid faithful.



A bit of a "false-flag" I suppose. Most folks here in RWED know me from the past as a Conservative. I do not like Obama in the least, but I have restrained my opinions and feelings by rarely posting any bashings of him during the last two years. Truth is, I'm as or more upset and disappointed with current Republicans than ever before for many reasons. So if folks wanna attack Obama on everything, I feel compelled out of a sense of fairness to respond the way I did.






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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:35 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

AND YET....with all the endless carping, berating, blaming and bashing of Obama on every single national and world event, there still isn't ANY Republican with a prayer of beating him next year. More than that, the Republicans have gone full-tilt batshit crazy since November's election, and they have failed utterly to capture the imagination of Americans. The so-called "front-runners" are a motley collection of has-been losers, clueless ideologues, and Fox News whores. Show me the leadership!
Thank you, JS, for your honesty, perspicacity and insight. I've been saying that for quite some time--the fact that the Republicans are acting crazy and not providing ANY decent alternative. I'd love to see some intelligent alternatives offered to any of the things Obama's gotten wrong, but I've yet to see a single one.

And, of course, things would have been SO much better under McCain/Palin. It's so easy to attack the current President with both barrels blazing, without noticing that we didn't HAVE a decent alternative to him. I wouldn't have voted for him, as I've said many times before, if I hadn't been so horrified by the alternative. McCain has gone back and forth on almost everything in a few short years, Palin would have been a disaster (even Republicans admit that), and gawd knows what state we'd be in if they'd won.

Give me a VIABLE alternative and I'll vote for them...but a sensible one has yet to emerge anywhere.
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Bachman? You’ve got to be kidding...even most REPUBLICANS wouldn’t vote for her! Even her most recent Chief of Staff wouldn’t:
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The most recent Chief of Staff for Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann says he intends to support former Minnesota Governor, Tim Pawlenty in the GOP race for President. Ron Carey served as Bachmann's fifth Chief of Staff before resigning last summer during Bachmann's reelection campaign. "I hope the Republican faithful connect their heads with their hearts. You have candidates to get people fired up, but can they actually build a coalition? That's why I'm supporting Pawlenty, " Carey says.

Here’s what she thinks the GOP’s political philosophy should be when they won the majority in the midterm elections: “I think that all we should do is issue subpoenas and have one hearing after another. And expose all the nonsense that is gone [sic] on. And it’s very important when we come back that we have constitutional conservative leadership because the American people’s patience is about this big. So we have to make sure that we do what the people want us to do.” Yup, that’s what we want in a President, fer shore!

Bachmann went on to claim that while prior to President Obama’s election, “the private economy was 100 percent held in private hands,” while “today 65 percent of the economy is now held in government’s hands – either through direct ownership or control.”



So you want a nutbag or a liar in the White House? Go for it.

Gingrich? Former House speaker Newt Gingrich said that on Day One, the next president should be ready to sign a raft of executive orders. “The very first executive order should be to abolish all the czars in the first act”...??? Elizabeth Munsey, 51, a building manager in the audience, said “I’m just not sure of his moral standards.”

How can we know how he’ll react to something like Libya, given HE doesn’t seem to know himself, except that “if Obama did it, it’s bad”.
Quote:

Before President Barack Obama backed the use of U.S. force to impose a no-fly zone over Libya, Gingrich had favored such a move, saying "this is a moment to get rid" of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. But once Obama ordered the U.S. military into action, Gingrich declared, "I would not have intervened."

On March 7: “Exercise a no-fly zone this evening. … It’s also an ideological problem. The United States doesn’t need anybody’s permission. We don’t need to have NATO, who frankly, won’t bring much to the fight. We don’t need to have the United Nations. All we have to say is that we think that slaughtering your own citizens is unacceptable and that we’re intervening. And we don’t have to send troops. All we have to do is suppress his air force, which we could do in minutes,” he said on Fox.

But then, less than 24 hours after Obama took action — Gingrich claimed that “it is impossible to make sense of the standard for intervention in Libya except opportunism and news media publicity.” That morning on the Today Show, he said plainly, “I would not have intervened”:

Gingrich ran the risk of complicating his attempts to show why Republican voters should view him as a more steadfast leader than a host of other Republicans considering a run to challenge Democrat Obama in 2012. He told the crowd "obviously there were contradictions" in his statements but that he had changed his analysis as a result of Obama changing his position.

"Now, I believe the only rational objective of the current intervention is to defeat Gaddafi as rapidly as possible," Gingrich said. "I would do it by using Egyptian, Moroccan, Jordanian, and Iraqi ground forces as advisers and as air controllers, with the rebels, using all of western air power as decisively as possible."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/26/usa-campaign-republicans-idU
SN2611095420110326


Wha? Which? What IS his position, can you figure it out?

Haley Barbour? “We’re doing everything that we can to stop abortion in our state,” Barbour said at the pastor’s conference, which was taped in Iowa Thursday and Friday. “And if I run for president, I will come to office with that attitude.” Yup, that’s the first thing on every American’s mind...you betcha!
Quote:

"Since World War II, the world has looked to America for leadership. But we haven't provided leadership in this administration," Barbour, the Mississippi governor, said Thursday on the Gallo Show on Jackson-based WFMN radio. Barbour told reporters Tuesday in Nevada that Obama "dithered a long time" before taking military action in Libya.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42266203/ns/politics-decision_2012/

Obviously he’d have had us in there on Day One, yes? That’s what you want?
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Haley Barbour is not well equipped for the age of Obama. Just look at the man's office. The Republican governor of Mississippi keeps a large portrait of the University Greys, the Confederate rifle company that suffered 100 percent casualties at Gettysburg, on a wall not far from a Stars and Bars Confederate flag signed by Jefferson Davis. Then there's the man himself. Rather than walking across the street from his office to the state capitol, he rides a hundred or so yards in the back seat of a large SUV, air conditioning on full blast...
Remember that mess when, in a December interview with the Weekly Standard, Brbour said that the White Citizens’ Council, which helped enforce segregation, had been an organization that helped to bring about peaceful integration? He later had to issue a statement that the council was “totally indefensible.” He also had to revise his comments that he just didn’t remember the Civil Rights era in Mississippi as “being that bad.”

Stephen Rozman, political science professor at Tougaloo College, feels Barbour's image won't play well in Peoria. "Can he overcome the baggage of the Old South while having foot in mouth disease?" he asked. "I don't think he plays well outside his culture."

Mr. “I-Don’t-Believe-In-Evolution” Huckabee???
Quote:

“My dear friends, we face a spiritual war in this country, and the idea of this wonderful nation built on a Judeo-Christian principle that we are accountable and answerable to a holy God is on the line.” Daniel Wright, a 49-year-old truck driver who said he watches “Huckabee,” the former governor’s show on Fox News, every Saturday. “He goes by what the Bible says, and we need someone strong that way.”
Oh, yeah, we REALLY need that!

This is a man who uses lies to say Obama is a Kenyan, then back-tracks PATHETICALLY to say he meant Indonesia (remember the “Mau-Mau” remarks?).
Quote:

This is troubling enough for a man who may one day be asked to make momentous decisions based on facts. It also shows that Huckabee will stir the same poison pot about Obama to please a Republican primary base in which half the voters think the president is not an American citizen.

But an even bigger fiction is the one Huckabee tells about the violent felon Maurice Clemmons. After being asked about having granted Clemmons’s plea for early release: “There was a kid who was 16 years old, he committed a burglary, he was aggravated, but not armed. And for that he got 108 years,” Huckabee said. “One-hundred-and-eight years.”

All lies: Clemmons was facing eight felony charges at the peak of a crime spree, not one. He was 17. During a reign of terror, he broke into the home of a cop, stole guns, assaulted and robbed a woman, and broke into the home of state trooper. In prison, he committed a half-dozen assaults, harassed guards and had sex with inmates as part of a pattern of preying on fellow convicts. Despite his bad behavior, he would have been eligible for parole after serving 18 years, not 108, The Seattle Times reported. But he got out early, serving 11 years, because of Huckabee.

While saying he was under “the watchful eyes of the Lord,” Clemmons assaulted two inmates. “God bless you,” Clemmons wrote Huckabee, a Baptist minister, in his plea for mercy. “It is so prayed!” In that same plea, he claimed to be a model prisoner. In fact, he’d been disciplined 29 times. Had Huckabee checked with prosecutors, prison guards or victims, he would have found grave concerns about letting Clemmons loose on the community. The prison system risk assessment categorized him as “most likely to return to violence.”

And he did, sadly, in late 2009, murdering four officers who sat drinking their morning coffee. Clemmons was later killed during a massive manhunt. During more than 10 years as governor, Huckabee granted twice as many requests for clemency as his predecessors had over 17 years. Some of the most hardened convicts played the religion card, and went on to further violence. The pattern here raises two major concerns. He constructs alternative views: a convict is saved by Jesus, instead of using Jesus to get out of jail, or, Obama is a bad president because he’s not really an American.

The pattern here raises two major concerns. He constructs alternative views: a convict is saved by Jesus, instead of using Jesus to get out of jail, or, Obama is a bad president because he’s not really an American. The second question is about judgment, always the most crucial thing to consider in a person who wants to be president. If Huckabee can’t see past a crude convict ploy to his heart, how can he judge the North Koreans?

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/the-fictions-of-mike-h
uckabee/?src=tp

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That’s just a taste of what the Republicans so far look to put up as candidates. You really want our country in one or the other of their hands...in which case, we’d be in for a helluva ride! It’s a moot point, as all of those above haven’t a chance in hell of being elected by the MAJORITY of Americans, it’s only their ultra-right-wing minority who might get them on the ticket, thereby guaranteeing a second term for Obama.

Give us a VIABLE alternative, someone with sense enough to actually put the country ahead of their religious fanaticism, prejudices or just plain lack of common sense. Then we can talk.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:35 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Yeah, it does kinda suck when BOTH options are so horrible you can't hold back the gag reflex long enough to pull a lever for either one.

Most certainly we can use some third parties - real ones though, instead of Republican shell games to hide from their past misdeeds, and less convicing than an obvious criminal calling himself John Smith.

I dunno about "Leadership", they're LEADING just fine, leading a bunch of useful idiots and rabid partisans down the garden path...

What America needs right now, I think, is inspiration, and all the Republicans have on offer is constipation, it seems.

I ain't holdin out any hope for them Pansyass Democrats neither, but without a serious challenge, there's no incentive for them to step up their game and at least PRETEND to be adults, yanno ?

The Republicans best bet would be Gates, although they'd have to convince him not to retire at the end of the year, and find a way to massage all his dirty laundy bastards like me will go laundering in the media if they did.

I'd still like to see Grayson/Paul on a bipartisan ticket, add some common sense to the oval office for once.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ditto everything you said, Frem, except "Grayson/Paul". I love the idea of Grayson on some levels; he's got the guts to say what others won't, but I don't know enough about him in other respects to look for more than that from him. And while Paul (I assume you mean Ron, NOT Rand?!?!) has some good ideas and is also willing to speak unpleasant truths, I'm afraid I don't see him as having enough common sense or being willing to compromise. Government HAS to encompass compromise, or it doesn't work. Something the naive Tea Partiers have yet to grasp.

Come up with a rational candidate who is willing to work with others, use common sense, and at least TRY to help the country, and hell, I'll vote for him, Republican, Democrat or fucking MARTIAN!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:15 AM

FREMDFIRMA





MARVIN/BUGS 2012!

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:34 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Some good points from Kaenman here, as surprising as it may be. Also good points from John Straw and everyone else here. Obviously we all feel that Obama isn't really that good at this job. Also a very valid point that there aren't a lot of good alternatives out there and if one doesn't materialize soon he'll win again just because people will become complacent because they'll feel likethere really isn't anyone to aspire to. I've yet to see someone who has enough public interest and support to make it.

I would hate to be the president, no matter what I did someone would hate me. I'm sure that if I won the election (just go with it) everyone here would whinge about one thing or another that I did, even though people would agree with other things that I did, no matter what I just wouldn't be good enough. I think that any person who is the president won't be good enough for everyone.

But there must be something better than this, anyone?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:40 PM

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:48 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Wish I knew the way back to Bloom County.

*sigh*

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Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:07 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
... Also good points from John Straw and everyone else here.


Riona, I've been called a lot of things over the years in this forum, but you have come up with a new twist.

Niki, No big, but I wrote the post you attributed to Hardware.

And to my fellow Conservative friends including Kman who perhaps think I've switched sides or something.....Even Karl Rove says there are no Republicans yet who can beat Obama according to his poll numbers. Many traditional Conservatives like Sean Hannity and others are themselves calling the House Repubs under Boehner gutless and ineffective. How many more continuing resolution compromises are they gonna make with the do-nothing Dems? They have to take a stand. Their $60 billion in cuts is only a pubic hair less absurd than the Dem's $10-$20 billion in budget cuts. We're borrowing $5 billion a day, and all the so-called fiscally responsible Repubs can come up with is a pathetic 2% budget cut? It's an insult to Americans that elected them.








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Thursday, March 31, 2011 3:10 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
... Also good points from John Straw and everyone else here.


Riona, I've been called a lot of things over the years in this forum, but you have come up with a new twist.

Niki, No big, but I wrote the post you attributed to Hardware.

And to my fellow Conservative friends including Kman who perhaps think I've switched sides or something.....Even Karl Rove says there are no Republicans yet who can beat Obama according to his poll numbers. Many traditional Conservatives like Sean Hannity and others are themselves calling the House Repubs under Boehner gutless and ineffective. How many more continuing resolution compromises are they gonna make with the do-nothing Dems? They have to take a stand. Their $60 billion in cuts is only a pubic hair less absurd than the Dem's $10-$20 billion in budget cuts. We're borrowing $5 billion a day, and all the so-called fiscally responsible Repubs can come up with is a pathetic 2% budget cut? It's an insult to Americans that elected them.












LOL, okay john straw...you are right about the republicans. not much there to cheer about.

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Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:20 AM

DREAMTROVE


Jong,

Ron Paul.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:46 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oops, pardon the typo JS, I actually remembered your saying you were going to be more reasonable, somehow I typed Hardware...duh! I would add also
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Truth is, I'm as or more upset and disappointed with current Republicans than ever before for many reasons.
Speaks for me. As I've said a gazillion times, I want at the very LEAST to have a VIABLE two-party system, some kind of choice between two at least semi-sensible candidates...like Frem, I'm tired of "pulling the lever" every four years while utilizing my barf bag!

Jon Stewart distilled the current slate of Republican candidates wonderfully last night...he was really on, had me laughing the entire half hour, which is unusual. Usually some of his stuff is good, some (most often the "correspondents" crap) leaves me cold. But last night his writers were fantastic, and he enhanced it with that wonderfully mobile face of his.

Check out the first two segments (Last night, March 30) for your giggle of the day:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
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Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:50 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Sorry, I often mess people's names up because I type what I hear from my speech software, I don't usually go letter by letter to figure it out, but now I know how to write it so no more of that.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:11 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


No, I like it! We all end up "nicknaming" one another one way or another, and that one's cute.

And I forgot to mention GAWD, I miss Bloom County! Thank you, Penguin. We stopped getting the local paper long ago, and Doonesbury and Bloom County were the two I missed te most. From what someone wrote: Is Bloom County no more?!? Bummer, if so.


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Friday, April 1, 2011 6:27 PM

KANEMAN


Yep, I'm changing his grade to an "F" after thinking about his "transparency" bullshit. Nothing he has done has been. Not Obamacare and not Libya.

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Saturday, April 2, 2011 1:53 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Niki2:


No, I like it! We all end up "nicknaming" one another one way or another, and that one's cute.

And I forgot to mention GAWD, I miss Bloom County! Thank you, Penguin. We stopped getting the local paper long ago, and Doonesbury and Bloom County were the two I missed te most. From what someone wrote: Is Bloom County no more?!? Bummer, if so.



From the wiki on Bloom County creator Berke Breathed:

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Breathed became published first when he was hired part-time by the Austin American-Statesman to draw editorial cartoons for the newspaper. This job was short-lived; he was dismissed shortly after one of his cartoons caused outrage.[2] His first comic strip published regularly was The Academia Waltz, which appeared in the Daily Texan, in 1978 while he was a student at the University of Texas. While at the University of Texas, Breathed self-published two collections of The Academia Waltz, using the profits to pay his tuition. The comic strip attracted the notice of the editors of the Washington Post, who recruited him to do a nationally syndicated strip. On December 8, 1980, Bloom County made its debut and featured some of the characters from Academia Waltz, including former frat-boy Steve Dallas and the paraplegic Vietnam war veteran Cutter John. In the beginning, the strip's style was so similar to that of another popular strip, Doonesbury, that Doonesbury's creator Garry Trudeau wrote to Breathed several times to indicate their similarities.[3] Breathed has acknowledged that he borrowed liberally from Doonesbury during his early career. In the Outland collection, One Last Little Peek, Breathed even put an early Bloom County side-by-side with the Doonesbury comic strip from which it obviously took its idea.

Bloom County earned Breathed the Pulitzer Prize for editorial cartooning during 1987.[4] The strip eventually appeared in over 1,200 newspapers around the world until Berkeley retired the daily strip in 1989, stating that he wanted to terminate the strip while it was still popular. At that time, he said, "A good comic strip is no more eternal than a ripe melon. The ugly truth is that in most cases, comics age less gracefully than their creators".[5]

He replaced this strip with the surreal Sunday-only cartoon Outland in 1989, which reused some of the Bloom County characters, including Opus the Penguin and Bill the Cat. He ended Outland in 1995.

Eight years later, Breathed began the comic strip Opus, a Sunday-only strip featuring Opus the Penguin, who was one of the main characters of Bloom County. He colored the cartoon himself with Adobe Photoshop, claiming that the advances in technology since 1990 have created an opportunity to draw "something that 'looks' cool on a comic page".[citation needed]

In June 2007, Salon.com announced[citation needed] it would carry new Opus cartoons by Berkeley as a weekly Sunday feature.

Several newspapers chose not to run the August 26, 2007, Opus cartoon because it might offend Muslims.[6]

On October 6, 2008, Breathed announced plans to discontinue all work on comic strips with the final Opus strip to run on November 2, 2008.[7] Breathed plans to focus on writing children's books.[1] Breathed explained that he felt that the United States was going to face "tough times", and that he wanted to end the saga of his most memorable character "on a lighter note".

The last Opus comic strip appeared on schedule, but in what may be a comic first the final panel required an online link. The final panel the strip showed Opus sleeping peacefully in the bed depicted in the classic children's book, Goodnight Moon. This panel was available only online, and the Humane Society page that displayed it no longer exists.

Breathed said that he had no regrets in leaving political cartooning, as he believes the atmosphere became too bitter for him to make quality cartoons.[8]



He's still working, just not in political cartoons. "Mars Needs Moms" is based on one of his books.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, April 3, 2011 10:57 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Just occurred to me: Wouldn't "Great Deceiver" apply to virtually every President ever, in that they promise one thing to get elected then do different, sometimes opposite, things.

And it would CERTAINLY apply to Bush far more than Obama, given his actions in starting the Iraq War, among so many other things. So I reject the title of "Great Deceiver". Maybe "The Deceiver", but the title of "Great" belongs to Bush, hands down.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Sunday, April 3, 2011 11:22 AM

DREAMTROVE



I disagree. I think Great Deceiver is a very appropriate name. Many people were deceived, and he did it very well. Bush lied a lot, but he did it very badly. Bush will go down in history as the Crooked Chimp.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Monday, November 23, 2015 4:45 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Approval rating polls tell the answers, he's gone from highs of 70s to the lows of 30s

that's 76 >>>>37

a huge swing


there are very few who rank lower today, maybe Nixon, Carter and Bush jnr
Gallup Poll recorded approval highs and lows for each President since 1937, his average score is in the 40s
You can plot the approval using a graph see Bush Jnr and Obama have a very similar story, the graph starts high and numbers plumet as the Presidency continues...I suppose the political success story is how both got re-elected

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Monday, November 23, 2015 1:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
He's a total disaster. His own agenda has been overrun with that of his friends, and that is a disaster. I actually think he's headed for a position as one of the great disasters of human history, I suspect his was will lead to world chaos, and the end of his empire. Such leaders aren't always the most flawed individuals, look at Gorby, but they will always be remembered for what fell on their watch.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.



Wow, I miss Dreamtrove. Occasionally inscrutable, but absolutely brilliant when the moment called for it!

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Thursday, November 26, 2015 3:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Approval rating polls tell the answers, he's gone from highs of 70s to the lows of 30s

that's 76 >>>>37

a huge swing


there are very few who rank lower today, maybe Nixon, Carter and Bush jnr
Gallup Poll recorded approval highs and lows for each President since 1937, his average score is in the 40s
You can plot the approval using a graph see Bush Jnr and Obama have a very similar story, the graph starts high and numbers plumet as the Presidency continues...I suppose the political success story is how both got re-elected




Bush Jr. got re-elected because he told the scared old hetro-republicans he was going to put a constitutional ban on gay marriage and because he was going to give us private ownership of our part of Social Security.

Obama got re-elected because everyone wanted to give the black guy a 2nd chance.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 26, 2015 7:20 AM

REAVERFAN


Looking at the OP, it's rather funny, now.

Economy UP every month since he took office. First lie debunked.

He couldn't, however, ratchet the wars all the way down. The US economy depends on permanent war, and there are too many conservatives in congress to stop it. They crave war, and enjoy the money it gets them.

Obama has turned out to be just another Republican.

The tinfoil idiocy of the OP can only be found on the fringe.

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Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:54 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


President Barack Obama's approval ratings are sliding

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/poll-obama-approval-ratings/2015/11/2
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