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Nutcase union supporter / Left wing thugette charged for making death threats.

POSTED BY: AURAPTOR
UPDATED: Thursday, April 7, 2011 12:36
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Tuesday, April 5, 2011 3:12 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


And you forgot William Ayers.


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Tuesday, April 5, 2011 5:04 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Let's get to the point about what is and what isn't acceptable behavior.

According to you, if anti-governor demonstrators had been openly carrying guns that would be OK. Because they were simply exercising their 2nd Amendment rights to make their voices heard by a bunch of dirty politicians who weren't listening to the voice of the people. Right? So carrying guns is OK.

And shouting down a politician is OK.

And demonstrating is OK.

So far, so good?

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Tuesday, April 5, 2011 5:13 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Setting off bombs in the Pentagon, Congress or threatening to murder legislators and their families is bad. Mmmmkay ?

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Tuesday, April 5, 2011 6:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


But demonstrating is OK.

Open carry is OK.

Being part of a union is OK.

Shouting down a politician is OK.

Right?

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Wednesday, April 6, 2011 1:57 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Judge refuses to dismiss charges against nutcase right-wing thug employed by Rand Paul:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42433715/ns/local_news-lexington_ky/



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Wednesday, April 6, 2011 4:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Ya see Rappy, what I'm trying to get to is an agreement on what is OK and what is not OK without any sort of face or even vague outline of the person who is acting in a certain way. In other words, an abstract set of concepts which apply equally in all directions.

Is that possible for you? Can you make judgments about what is right and what is wrong w/out knowing "who"? Or are your morals inextricably tied to your emotions?

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Wednesday, April 6, 2011 5:43 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Give it up, darlin'. I see it now. He got us again.

Anyone who can say
Quote:

Left wingers are more likely to threaten and carry out attacks than those on the Right. The right is largely made up of decent, honest , hard working people, while those on the Left are just spoiled, angry and spiteful.
either isn’t serious or IS seriously demented. I don’t think Raptor is demented, I think he’s having fun pulling us all around the place while WE try to communicate. I guarantee if you keep up, so will he.

Damn, took me long enough!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Wednesday, April 6, 2011 6:06 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Sig -

It's not about what one does that's right or wrong. The simple point of all this is to show what a female teacher, and a supporter of unions, will do. She's been lied to and brain washed to such an extent as to hate the very elected officials who are looking after the best interest of the people. THE PEOPLE, of her state, who so unwittingly allowed her to teach their children.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, April 6, 2011 1:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


So basically, Niki, you're down to a choice between Rap being demented, or simply delusional.

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Wednesday, April 6, 2011 2:20 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Raptor, I agree that the statement of yours that Niki sited was really rediculous and it really takes away from the plausibility of any arguments you put forth in this thread hence forth, pa-lease.
I wanted to tell you that before but I didn't really see any point, but I decided to.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, April 6, 2011 3:23 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Raptor, I agree that the statement of yours that Niki sited was really rediculous and it really takes away from the plausibility of any arguments you put forth in this thread hence forth, pa-lease.
I wanted to tell you that before but I didn't really see any point, but I decided to.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya




There's nothing ridiculous in my statement, in the least. Look at all the hate and vitriol at the ' peace' rallies, and the Wisconsin union protests. Notice all the trash and vulgarity going on there, and then compare that to the clean, peaceful and in large part civil TEA party marches. But thanks for playing.

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Wednesday, April 6, 2011 7:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

It's not about what one does that's right or wrong.
Well then- why bring it up?
Quote:

The simple point of all this is to show what a female teacher, and a supporter of unions, will do.
Or a jihadist and supporter or Islam. Or an right-wing anti-abortionist. Or a President who is convinced of American exceptionalism.
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She's been lied to and brain washed to such an extent as to hate the very elected officials who are looking after the best interest of the people. THE PEOPLE
But apparently not looking after the best interests of teachers, social workers, regulators, public works, other public employees, and those who depend on them. And aren't these public employees and citizens ALSO "people" who deserve representation? Or do they somehow not meet your definition of "people"?

RAPPY, WULF: There is a problem with using the term "we the people", or "us": MOST people use the terms "us" or "we the people" really don't mean EVERYBODY.... they usually only mean a subset that THEY agree/ identify with. People who are similarly white/black/brown/yellow/red, or have the same political beliefs, or follow the same religion, or speak the same language, or live in the same village, or have the same income or education level. "We the people" is almost never used in a truly inclusive sense; but used to cover up an unconscious bias against a whole group of others who are not (in their mind) "people".

So next time you use the term "We the people" just be aware that you are most probably exposing your prejudice against a whole group of "non- people".

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Wednesday, April 6, 2011 7:56 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Raptor, I do agree with you sometimes, but when you use blanket inflamatory statements like that it just turns people off to what you're saying. I don't agree with you always, but I do agree with you sometimes,

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, April 7, 2011 12:10 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Raptor, I do agree with you sometimes, but when you use blanket inflamatory statements like that it just turns people off to what you're saying. I don't agree with you always, but I do agree with you sometimes,

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya



Which 'blanket inflammatory' statements ?

Sometimes the truth IS inflammatory. I'd rather be right than liked.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, April 7, 2011 4:43 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, "we the people" doesn't include public sector workers and those who depend on them? So what you really mean is "'Me and those like me' people"?

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Thursday, April 7, 2011 5:00 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Raptor, I do agree with you sometimes, but when you use blanket inflamatory statements like that it just turns people off to what you're saying. I don't agree with you always, but I do agree with you sometimes,

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya




Oh bullshit. When talking about some 150 million people one needs to generalize, hence blanket statements....This "you can't generalize, stereotype, etc..." is bullshit. Just a bunch of hippie love everyone crap that has been taught to children since the 60's.

Most liberals value trees, zebra frogs, and marsh land more than human life (why they love abortion) *see side note*. More liberals are radicals this is present in the youth trying to be like their 60-70's brethren. Those tards will rally for anything...ANYTHING.


*side note*
I have always found the parties stance on abortion perplexing. You would think that since the rates of abortion among blacks, hispanics, and poor whites is so high, that evil republicans would view abortion as nigger management and the "save the trees" dems would ahbor ahbortion ....so what gives?

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Thursday, April 7, 2011 5:11 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
So, "we the people" doesn't include public sector workers and those who depend on them? So what you really mean is "'Me and those like me' people"?





...or "we the people" doesn't include the citizens that no longer want to pay the demands of public workers/government that is there to serve them.

The government is here to serve the people. The people have every right to decide what teachers, Firemen, policemen, etc... get paid. After all it is a government for the people by the people. If you can't adapt to that...you are free to go elsewhere.

See, these public sector unions are not bankrupting a large evil corporation...they are bankrupting their neighbor's grand children....and the absurd part is ...doing so under the "serving the public" mantra and DEMANDING the right to do so. You can't make this shit up. Fucking too funny


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Thursday, April 7, 2011 6:03 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:
Raptor, I do agree with you sometimes, but when you use blanket inflamatory statements like that it just turns people off to what you're saying. I don't agree with you always, but I do agree with you sometimes,

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya



Which 'blanket inflammatory' statements ?

Sometimes the truth IS inflammatory. I'd rather be right than liked.



Honor is a vanishing trait in these times.
Thanks for avoiding the wrong/left side all the time.
Those who are right will see through the flames and realize how likable you are. Those who are always wrong/left will rarely like the correct/accurate anyhow.

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Thursday, April 7, 2011 8:14 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Nobody buys it, Rappy, because nobody has forgotten.

-F

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Thursday, April 7, 2011 8:20 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
So, "we the people" doesn't include public sector workers and those who depend on them? So what you really mean is "'Me and those like me' people"?



Your fuss is with FDR, not me.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, April 7, 2011 8:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Nobody buys it, Rappy, because nobody has forgotten.

-F



Buys what, and forgotten what ?

The less vague you can be, the better.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, April 7, 2011 12:36 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


The statement I'm thinking is the one about how conservatives are hard working honest folk but liberals are whiny and spoilt. It may be true some of the time, I'm not arguing with ya there. It just looks bad when you say it like that. Obviously you can say wahtever you want though.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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