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Monday, April 11, 2011 4:48 PM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Monday, April 11, 2011 6:31 PM
KANEMAN
Monday, April 11, 2011 6:32 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:11 AM
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:58 AM
DREAMTROVE
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: WINNING!
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:41 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Have I ever told you that I really like your line about the four boxes?
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:09 PM
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:23 PM
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:34 PM
THEHAPPYTRADER
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:14 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: ETA I actually picked it up from someone HERE. Not sure where they got it from.... but I liked it, it made sense, and I used it in quotes. "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by TheHappyTrader: Makes sense, the democrat's party loyalty leads to bad ideas the the kind of 'Washington insider' and partisan politics the people have grown weary of ('specially considering they campaigned on ending that sort of thing...) Meanwhile, the Tea Party at least appears to be something new and different. The new 'change' as it were.
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:28 PM
Quote:You say that as if thinking that the GOP loyalists and the teabagger faithful have come up with any good ideas. What exactly do you consider "change"?
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:55 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:05 AM
MOCKROMANCER
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by TheHappyTrader: Makes sense, the democrat's party loyalty leads to bad ideas the the kind of 'Washington insider' and partisan politics the people have grown weary of ('specially considering they campaigned on ending that sort of thing...) Meanwhile, the Tea Party at least appears to be something new and different. The new 'change' as it were. You say that as if thinking that the GOP loyalists and the teabagger faithful have come up with any good ideas. What exactly do you consider "change"? Funny how not one single right-winger or any of these "neolibertarians" had a single word to say against Eric Cantor's little power-grab stunt last week, in which he, the GOP, and the teabaggers tried to do an end-run around the Constitution and change the U.S. to a unicameral form of government, with the House of Representatives in charge of everything. Not a word was said against it by any of these so-called "patriots" here. I wish I could say I was surprised, but it's just standard operating procedure. "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:05 AM
HKCAVALIER
Quote:Originally posted by Mockromancer: ***warning*** Your brain needs more Oxygen. ***warning*** Your brain needs more Oxygen. ***end warning***** You are officially brain-dead. Weakening the federal government is a good idea. Keep on paying attention to capital hill and the MSM and you will miss what is happening all across this country on the local level. Yep, teabaggers are winning everywhere and will under-cut the FEDs by the middle of this decade with or without federal elected officals. The power of the states will prevail. It is only natural for daily governance to come from close to home.
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:43 AM
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:28 AM
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Mockromancer: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by TheHappyTrader: Makes sense, the democrat's party loyalty leads to bad ideas the the kind of 'Washington insider' and partisan politics the people have grown weary of ('specially considering they campaigned on ending that sort of thing...) Meanwhile, the Tea Party at least appears to be something new and different. The new 'change' as it were. You say that as if thinking that the GOP loyalists and the teabagger faithful have come up with any good ideas. What exactly do you consider "change"? Funny how not one single right-winger or any of these "neolibertarians" had a single word to say against Eric Cantor's little power-grab stunt last week, in which he, the GOP, and the teabaggers tried to do an end-run around the Constitution and change the U.S. to a unicameral form of government, with the House of Representatives in charge of everything. Not a word was said against it by any of these so-called "patriots" here. I wish I could say I was surprised, but it's just standard operating procedure. "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill ***warning*** Your brain needs more Oxygen. ***warning*** Your brain needs more Oxygen. ***end warning***** You are officially brain-dead. Weakening the federal government is a good idea. Keep on paying attention to capital hill and the MSM and you will miss what is happening all across this country on the local level. Yep, teabaggers are winning everywhere and will under-cut the FEDs by the middle of this decade with or without federal elected officals. The power of the states will prevail. It is only natural for daily governance to come from close to home.
Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:41 AM
Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:02 AM
Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:33 AM
Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:54 AM
HARDWARE
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Have I ever told you that I really like your line about the four boxes? Hmph, and here I even waited to see if he'd be honest about where he jacked it from - but of course, honesty and integrity are not the boys strongpoints, that's for sure. That line comes from me explaining what "box four" meant, when I pointed out were "weren't down to box four yet", before the jackboot licking creep decided he liked the taste of kiwi better than actual freedom, cause freedom is scary, it takes WORK, it takes involvement beyond mere slogan-slinging, and might require him to offend his masters, so he decided instead to back their play and hope against hope he'll some day be able to don a brown shirt and carry out his pathetic little revenge fantasies. http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/violence_geeks.htm http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DyingLikeAnimals (Specifically: Jackals) The reason I am so vicious to the boy is that he made an actual, conscious CHOICE to become a wannabe jackboot and tyranny-enabler, it wasn't done out of ignorance and is thus unforgiveable. Not to mention stupid, cause in the end the very folk he wants to loft into power will be the first to send him and his to the camps, to prevent anyone else from winding up their idiotic and easily manipulated ideological blindness, preferably before they really realize they've been had. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RewardedAsATraitorDeserves We all know how it's gonna go, but cockblocking folks like him FROM enabling the tyranny is one of the reasons for my existence. -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Quote: A version that is close to the modern forms was introduced by Frederick Douglass, an escaped slave who became an influential public figure in the Union States and Great Britain before the Civil War, and had a long and distinguished career after the war. In a speech delivered on 15 November 1867, Douglass said "A man's rights rest in three boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box. Let no man be kept from the ballot box because of his color. Let no woman be kept from the ballot box because of her sex".[7] In Douglass's autobiography the Life and Times of Frederick Douglass, published in 1892, he described his conviction that a freedman should become more than just a freedman, and should become a citizen. He repeated that "the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the ballot-box, the jury-box, and the cartridge-box; that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country..."
Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:10 AM
Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:52 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote: Once again the unpopular views of a minority have been imposed on the majority.
Quote: Why did Tea Partiers win such a major victory? Money, for starters. The Tea Party's generously funded by billionaires like the Koch Brothers, and ultra-conservative policies are given "nonpartisan" ideological cover by right-wing billionaire Pete Peterson and his network of allies and paid savants. Corporate campaign financing, now made limitless by the GOP's ideological packing of the Supreme Court, allows the mega-corporations of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to impose policies that crush the middle class and smaller businesses. And decades' worth of funding for ad campaigns and "conservative think tanks" (an oxymoron, perhaps?) continue to lay the groundwork for destructive moves
Quote: Their policies are very popular, while those of the Tea Party and the Republicans are equally unpopular. Strong majorities in both political parties oppose cuts to Social Security and want to see the payroll tax cap raised, for example. Most people want the government to do more do create jobs. Only six percent of those polled think that reducing the deficit is Congress' highest priority. More people would like to see more done to end poverty. If these popular positions weren't always being labelled "progressive" in the media, they'd probably be even more popular. The White House and other Democrats would be forced to respond to public pressure.
Quote: Say what you will about Rep. Ryan's budget proposal, it's a vision. By proposing to dismantle Medicare for people retiring in 2021 and afterwards, he's laid out a radical alternative to today's policies. By slashing taxes for the wealthy and proposing deregulation for all industries, the Ryan plan envisions a future America: one where the environment is despoiled, the poor go unfed, and the middle class faces a lifetime of financial insecurity following by an old age of sickness and penury. It may not be a good vision, but it's a vision.
Quote: Now that liberals and progressives are on the run... (and before you argue, see article above..)
Quote:Grasping at straws. Bailing water. Clawing at the ceiling. The people have finally woken up, and the hard-left are being driven out. Line by line, win by win, victory by victory.
Quote:One thing's for sure: The old definition of insanity, "doing the same thing and expecting different results," still holds.... It's frustrating, but it's no reason to give up. Like a guy with a guitar said a century ago: Don't mourn, organize.
Quote: Just saying, when something sucks, there are folks who just want to try anything different to see if it's better. I wonder how often they inadvertently end up doing the same thing.
Quote: The lesson I take from this bit of recent history is that change must be embraced with both eyes open and the brain fully functional and highly critical. Otherwise, the swift way out of the pan might land you writhing and screaming in the fire.
Quote: Keep saying that we are too stupid, too ignorant, too "out of touch" to even be allowed to vote. We shouldn't be "allowed" to own guns to protect our families. We need to accept that our money MUST go to help those who won't work. After all, some debt is GOOD for an economy.
Quote: Everytime(sic) one of you acts the clown, 3 more people wake up.
Quote: “We now live in a world where the lowest common denominator — the judgment of the most irresponsible, callous, insensitive or malicious speaker — governs what we see and read.”
Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: What exactly was that, Kwick? As to the camp you've aligned yourself with... http://abovethelaw.com/2011/04/did-blogging-kill-the-first-amendment/ “When speech is not suppressable, the careful First Amendment balance is destroyed,” he said. “We now live in a world where the lowest common denominator — the judgment of the most irresponsible, callous, insensitive or malicious speaker — governs what we see and read.”
Quote: Think long and hard about who and what you have given your loyalty to.
Quote: According to your people, "Voting shouldn't matter as much as it does..", the "ignorant shouldn't be allowed to vote", and now... this.
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