A government run for the oil companies... by AURaptor

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A government run for the oil companies...

POSTED BY: AURAPTOR
UPDATED: Thursday, May 19, 2011 14:22
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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:08 AM

America loves a winner!

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Meanwhile, GOP-baggers line up to insist on federal welfare for oil companies that make a trillion dollars PROFIT in the last decade. Because, you know, they really, really , REALLY need those billions of taxpayer dollars.

By the way, they've been shrinking their American workforces the whole time their profits have been drastically increasing, too. So much for the phony idea that giving them billions of our dollars will create jobs!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:28 AM

HARDWARE

Uh, guys? Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, these are just the names used to describe the North, South, East and West faces of Shit Mountain.

BOTH sides are for the same thing, they just spin it differently.

We are on the verge of having an Africa-style kleptocracy.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:04 AM

KWICKO

"On the verge"? I admire your optimism. I was under the impression we'd been a kleptocracy for some time now!

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:30 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

SOP

Ignore the point, and phony up a separate issue, to divert attention away from the glaring hypocrisy of the MSM.

Big Oil only gets the same breaks that many other companies get, and stopping those breaks won't lower the cost of fuel at the pump 1 cent.

Puppet theatre politics

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:39 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Big Oil only gets the same breaks that many other companies get, and stopping those breaks won't lower the cost of fuel at the pump 1 cent.

Except those other companies aren't turning record profits while cutting back jobs AND insisting they need that taxpayer money to create jobs they don't create.

But sure, fixate on a tine point while ignoring the crimes of your masters.

SOP in Rappyland.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:39 AM

HARDWARE

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
"On the verge"? I admire your optimism. I was under the impression we'd been a kleptocracy for some time now!

Well, yeah. But it's not Africa-style... yet.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:44 AM

BYTEMITE

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
"On the verge"? I admire your optimism. I was under the impression we'd been a kleptocracy for some time now!

Agreed. All tax money seems to go to special interests and lobbyists. Appointed officials for regulatory commissions will jump ship after their tenure over to job offers from corporations. Meanwhile we're in three wars, the political leaders can only squabble, and the world, not just our nation but globally seems to be going to hell.

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:21 AM

DREAMTROVE

More agreement. I honestly don't know why you guys argue. For sport?

The kleptocracy is out of control, and Bernanke is the man I pin it to more than anyone else. The hypocrisy has been running for a while. Driving up oil prices is a common trick, it helps to invade every member of OPEC, take some of that oil off the market. It helps also to make a good crisis to forge bad policy from.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:43 AM

BYTEMITE

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:07 AM

JONGSSTRAW

Eliminating the billions in subsidies to big oil would have been a great symbolic gesture for the country, and a nice step in the right direction. I'd love to hear the argument to keep it, especially in light of the previously mentioned $1 Trillion in profits they made 2000-2010. If Republicans are at all serious about reducing the debt and deficit, then this seems like an easy one they didn't have to blow. Oh wait, that's all they do anymore.

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:00 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
SOP

Ignore the point, and phony up a separate issue, to divert attention away from the glaring hypocrisy of the MSM.

Big Oil only gets the same breaks that many other companies get, and stopping those breaks won't lower the cost of fuel at the pump 1 cent.

Giving them 21 billion of taxpayer dollars won't lower the price of gas 1 cent, either. And it won't create a single job.

The real question is, why are you so happy to give MY money to oil companies? Isn't that what you call "socialism"?

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:07 PM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Eliminating the billions in subsidies to big oil would have been a great symbolic gesture for the country, and a nice step in the right direction. I'd love to hear the argument to keep it, especially in light of the previously mentioned $1 Trillion in profits they made 2000-2010. If Republicans are at all serious about reducing the debt and deficit, then this seems like an easy one they didn't have to blow. Oh wait, that's all they do anymore.

Yup. And the Dems have said they're going to include it on every piece of legislation now, just to make the GOP keep voting against ending these massive giveaways, and to make them be forced to explain why to their constituents.

Next, I'd like them to explain why hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars are being funneled to Liberty University...

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Big Oil only gets the same breaks that many other companies get, and stopping those breaks won't lower the cost of fuel at the pump 1 cent.

Except those other companies aren't turning record profits while cutting back jobs AND insisting they need that taxpayer money to create jobs they don't create.

But sure, fixate on a tine point while ignoring the crimes of your masters.

SOP in Rappyland.

What difference does it make how much profit a company makes ?

And what jobs are BIG OIL cutting back ?
Do you mean the drilling jobs, which were lost due to Obama's Gulf moratorium ? THOSE jobs ?

Oil companies have a very low profit margin on their product, and in the US , state and federal taxes far exceed what the oil companies make in profit.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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