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Republican view of disaster assistance
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:17 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Republican lawmakers have been quick to rush to the assistance of disaster victims with that priceless commodity, prayer, but when it comes to tangible assets, they've been a bit less spirited. An email circulated by the office of Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Tex.) asked lawmakers to co-sponsor H. Res 254, a straightforward measure encouraging Congress and the American public to pray for the victims of the recent disasters in the United States. The message was signed by Neugebauer, as well as Reps. Stevan Pearce (R-N.M.) and Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.) All three lawmakers voted for the House FY 2011 continuing resolution, which included significant cuts to funding for the federal response to weather, climate and natural disasters. For example, funding for the Federal Emergency Management Agency's state and local programs was slashed $783.3 million below FY 2010 levels. The FEMA Pre-Disaster Mitigation Grant Program lost $35 million. The part of FEMA's budget for emergency food and shelter was cut $100 million, and Assistance to Firefighter Grants lost $510 million. (Under the best-case scenario, the disaster relief fund will essentially run dry before the end of the year. That means sometime in mid- to late summer, FEMA will have to freeze its recovery operations and only fund what they call `immediate need,' That means recovery, rebuilding and general assistance will stop.) The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration lost $454.3 million in the House's continuing resolution. In March, the agency warned that insufficient funds budgeted for its next generation of polar orbiting satellites could potentially weaken the accuracy of its weather forecasting, especially pertaining to severe events such as blizzards and hurricanes. The National Weather Service, which is part of NOAA, lost $126 million from FY 2010 levels in the House bill. "This is the congressional equivalent of having a mortgage lender take your house and then tell all his friends how bad he feels for you," said a Democratic operative who used to work in Congress. "The fact that these guys have no sense of irony or shame is just revolting." Neugebauer's office declined comment, and Pearce and Bachus did not respond.
Quote:House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said Monday that if Congress passes an emergency spending bill to help Missouri's tornado victims, the extra money will have to be cut from somewhere else. "If there is support for a supplemental, it would be accompanied by support for having pay-fors to that supplemental," Mr. Cantor, Virginia Republican, told reporters at the Capitol.
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:30 AM
KANEMAN
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:35 AM
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I would posit that's only because Republicans HAVE more money...how many poor people are Republicans? When you got it to spare, it doesn't hurt to share...and then one has to ask, how many of the rich donate for tax write-offs? All of which has NOTHING to do with how they're legislating our tax dollars to do precisely what libertarians, Tea Partiers and others claim government is only good for: helping its citizens in war or disaster. Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani, Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”, signing off
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:47 AM
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:30 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: For the record more money is donated by people who are registered republicans than by anyone on EARTH....true fact look it up. Now "lawmakers" should not be donating money....good for them...just sayin
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:34 PM
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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:15 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: I would posit that's only because Republicans HAVE more money...
Quote:-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227). -- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:21 PM
Quote:-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:31 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Thursday, May 26, 2011 1:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: "-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood." It's just not their blood that they're "donating"...
Thursday, May 26, 2011 1:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: "-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood." It's just not their blood that they're "donating"...
Friday, May 27, 2011 1:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and Afghan "donated" their blood to our wars, courtesy of "conservatives" like Dubya, Cheney, and Rummy. So when you claim that conservatives give more blood, you're not really LYING, but your omitting the fact that it's not THEIR blood they're "donating" when they spill the blood of innocents all over the world.
Friday, May 27, 2011 6:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: The GOP stance is this: Billions of gov't money for Big Oil. Billions of gov't money for Big Farms. Trillions of gov't money for Big War. Billions of gov't money for Big Pharma. Pennies - or less - for Big Disaster. I'm with Bill Maher: I understand why the top 1% of wealthiest Americans would vote for Republicans; I just can't understand where they get the other 49%.
Friday, May 27, 2011 6:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: For the record more money is donated by people who are registered republicans than by anyone on EARTH....true fact look it up. Now "lawmakers" should not be donating money....good for them...just sayin Cites?
Friday, May 27, 2011 1:12 PM
Quote:EDIT I see Geezer found something...maybe that is where the Proffersor got it...who knows? I think it is based off of tax write offs.
Saturday, May 28, 2011 1:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: "EDIT I see Geezer found something...maybe that is where the Proffersor got it...who knows? I think it is based off of tax write offs. " Problem with that is, according to the IRS, I donated NOTHING to charity last year, because I don't write off charitable contributions, or take deductions from them. For me, "charity" means giving freely, without expectation of return, just for the good it will do for those in need.
Monday, May 30, 2011 11:40 AM
Quote:Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families
Monday, May 30, 2011 2:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: There are far more liberals than conservatives in the “poor” class and far more conservatives in the “ultra-rich” class, so I’d like to know where they got that conclusion.
Quote:All of us who just donate to various organizations, or give to Goodwill/St. Vincent de Paul/etc., or help out at our local shelter or (in my case) nonprofit dog park, and never mention our politics?? How do you gauge that to come up with that result?
Quote:In other words, if it comes from tax write-offs, it don’t mean squat to me, given one of the things rich people do is give to gain tax breaks.
Quote:And how do they determine who gives more blood and time?
Quote:I don’t buy it, now that I've thought about it a bit. I’d need to know where they got their “facts” and how they made the determination in order to accept it.
Monday, May 30, 2011 2:32 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
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RIONAEIRE
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